skynightblaze wrote: First of all bringing bible into the equation wont help your case as I suppose that you muslims believe that its corrupted .
Read my 2 posts to Ahmed Bahgat where I have refuted these arguments of quran prescribing 5 prayers so we need hadiths for 5 prayers.
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So do you pray merely by standing and prostration? How does one prostrate exactly? This is not given in the quran.Muslims bend on their knees bow down completely with their forehead touched to the ground. They also have a special position of hands. Where does quran explain all this? Well merely saying standing or bowing down doesn’t do the job. How does bow down? That needs explanation.
As I said I personally only see three obligatory prayers in the Qur’an but if someone wishes to interpret the five then that is their choice (although it is illogical). It is not forbidden to pray five times although its origin in hadith is not acceptable to me (the Mi’raj).
I stand, bow and prostrate in accordance with the other Muslims (because it is in accordance with the Qur’an and provides most aptly the opportunity for appropriate recitation at different stages). It would inevitably be quite similar since the prayer is composed of three fundamental positions. As long as you do these parts praising Allah (SWT) then you have prayed. There must be at least two prostrations as implied in 4:102:
“And when you are among them and keep up the prayer for them, let a party of them stand up with you, and let them take their arms; then when they have prostrated themselves let them go to your rear, and let another party who have not prayed come forward and pray with you.”
It is known from the Qur’an 4:101 that prayer can be shortened in the case of an enemy being nearby and hence the shortest prayer includes one prostration.
Some will say that the shortening involves length and not the rak’at number. However this is vague and not in keeping with the Qur’an:
“Surely your Lord knows that you pass in prayer nearly two-thirds of the night, and (sometimes) half of it, and (sometimes) a third of it, and (also) a party of those with you; and Allah measures the night and the day. He knows that you are not able to do it, so He has turned to you (mercifully), therefore read what is easy of the Quran.”
73:20
There is no specific length for one unit (contrary to tradition) and therefore the shortening of prayer refers to units.
You ask how to bow down and prostrate…
The placement of the hands on the knees is natural if you wish to bow down low and not dangle your arms.
The prostration position we see today is most appropriate since it presents one in a state of willing submission (bowed and kneeled in a dignified ease from which we may raise ourselves (hence implying voluntariness or else it would be little different to lying in bed)).
How would you prostrate to God?
The hand movement (raf‘ al-yadayn) is irrelevant unless we wish to designate ahadith as a source of religious law.
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Sahih Sunan Abu Dawud Book 3, Number 0921:
Narrated AbuHurayrah:
"The Prophet (SAW) said: 'Kill the two black things during prayer, the snake and scorpion.'"
It is not something that interests me particularly since Sunnis etc. rely on a hadith wherein it is alleged that Muhammad (SAW) said to pray exactly as he did. However this leads to contradicting the Qur’an:
Say: Call upon Allah or call upon, the Beneficent Allah; whichever you call upon, He has the best names; and do not utter your prayer with a very raised voice nor be silent with regard to it, and seek a way between these.
17:110
Two of the five traditionalist prayers are silent.
Furthermore Muhammad (SAW) would never have concluded his prayer by addressing himself in second person and thus the prayer that you wish me to imitate is invalid.
I hope this answers your first question.
Allah Hafiz