Muhammad made no attempts to preserve quran either then why do you believe in the quran?
Of course he did as commanded by Allah.
Muhammed commanded his sahaba to only write the Quran from all that which he said.
Would not that be called preservation, dumpy?
skynightblaze wrote:So according to you , hadiths were never collected by muhammad and quran never said to follow the hadiths and hence they are corrupted
I never said so, confused
What I always say that there is no obligation upon any Muslim to believe in even 1 single man made hadith.
But in regards to its massive corruption, well, I did not say that it is massively corrupted, rather, I proved that it is massively corrupted using nothing but the hadith itself.
skynightblaze wrote:while quran also wasnt collected by Muhammad
Of course, it was perfectly memorised by Muhammed, that was because Allah made him memorise it as stated in the Quran, from him it was transferred and even written by many, when Uthamn came, he only unified it, and certainly that was because Allah made him to do as a matter of my belief of what the Quran said concerning its collection.
skynightblaze wrote:but quran spoke about preservation of itself and hence its valid. Right?
No. how a book preserve itself, dumpy?
Allah said in the Quran that He will be in charge of preserving it.
Now what you are missing is this:
You as a stupid kafir bound to hell who does not believe in Allah, should not believe that Allah is the Author of the Quran, while me as a BELIEVER, should believe that Allah is the Author of the Quran. Therefore your stupid understanding that you try hard to beautify it under the name of circular logic must contradict my belief.
Now I don’t bloody get it?
Are you trying to tell me that you are smarter than me because you are a kafir bound to hell?
Lol, but the result is not learnt yet, dumpy, we have to wait until both of us die, then we should see who was the fukin smarter. This should bloody take us again to mister Pascal and his Wager
In reality though, you cannot be smarter, because if God does not exist, then me and you will be fukin forgotten, You will not be able to come an tell me, see Ahmed, I was smarter than you. On the other fukin hand, if God exists, I will certainly come and tell you, hey dump kid, are you enjoying the blaze? Haha, certainly I will have a chance to come and humiliate you further and tell you, I was bloody smarter, dump kid
skynightblaze wrote:Again I can see faulty logic and nothing else.
Haha, look who is talking, the blind is telling me, I can see……
Dismiss yourself, blind
skynightblaze wrote:Something doesnt become corrupted and fabricated just because quran didnt sanction it otherwise all books other than quran would also be false if we are to use that logic.Hadiths dont become a lie just because quran didnt say anything about following them.
Again, confused, I PROVED THAT THE MAN MADE RUBBISH BOOKS OF CRAP USELESS HADITH ARE MASSIVELY CORRUPTED. Not once, not twice, not ten times, rather hundreds of times, and I still have more hundreds to expose.
skynightblaze wrote:t the max you can say that you cant follow them blindly but you can definitely take them as a source of information.
Doubtful information due to the MASSIVE CORRUPTION THAT IS CLEARLY PROVEN THEIERIN.
skynightblaze wrote:You can get a generalized picture of your con man and sadly for you that is of a criminal.
What that suppose to mean, kid?
Are you calling my prophet con man in a dialogue between us?
You need to clarify that before I continue replying to your crap
skynightblaze wrote:Apart from that quran itself testifying of its purity cannot be taken as a proof . Only dump pums like you can blindly believe in that.I hope you agree that a person under a charge in court cant ask to acquit himself on the basis of his own testimony alone.The case is similar here.
You dump , the terms like police,president ,judges etc etc werent coined in 6th century when the verse was revealed So what were the people in the 6th century and some centuries after the verse was revealed supposed to make of this verse if you say that these terms refer to policmen ,judges etc?