The sun orbits a galaxy?

[Muhammad bin Lyin]

I think it means the heavens and earth ARE Allah's throne, and that's why that hadith says the sun goes underneath the throne. It thinks the sun sets underneath the flat earth just like most thought back then.

[skynightblaze]

I think it means the heavens and earth ARE Allah's throne, and that's why that hadith says the sun goes underneath the throne. It thinks the sun sets underneath the flat earth just like most thought back then.

There is a hadith that tells us that initially there was just throne of Allah on water and later Allah created heavens and the earth so throne must be different from earth and heavens. I think the hadiths regarding this issue are clear and Muhhamad really meant the throne which is seperate from earth and heavens . He seems to have imagined Allah as some sort of ruler .Just go through the quotes from hadiths here regarding the throne of Allah. Well you can never trust Muhhamad to say something sensible. Gibberish was hardcoded into his brain.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/ab ... throne.htm

[Muhammad bin Lyin]

I think it means the heavens and earth ARE Allah's throne, and that's why that hadith says the sun goes underneath the throne. It thinks the sun sets underneath the flat earth just like most thought back then.

There is a hadith that tells us that initially there was just throne of Allah on water and later Allah created heavens and the earth so throne must be different from earth and heavens.

So there was water before the heavens and earth?? See?? See what an obviously stupid person this is??? And they ignore it

I think the hadiths regarding this issue are clear and Muhhamad really meant the throne which is seperate from earth and heavens . He seems to have imagined Allah as some sort of ruler .Just go through the quotes from hadiths here regarding the throne of Allah. Well you can never trust Muhhamad to say something sensible. Gibberish was hardcoded into his brain.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/ab ... throne.htm

The problem is that we have to remember that after Muhammad does not give the correct answer as to where the sun goes when it sets, where the only correct answer would be "nowhere", and instead he says it goes somewhere and prostrates, he DOES say that the sun goes underneath the throne, and this is why I'm thinking that the throne in this case means all of the heavens and earth, and ultimately the sun is going underneath the flat earth and hence the entire throne, to it's daily resting place whereby it prostrates to Allah and asks Allah for permission to rise again and continue on it's course.

Isn't that a beautifully poetic idea?? And that's what it intended to do while it thought is was explaining the truth of things and therefore confirming Muhammad was legitimate, while never realizing how this would be in error in later times.

It's so obvious that it might as well pluck you in the nose. One might as well simply look at their hand if they would like to see something less obvious.

[skynightblaze]

I think it means the heavens and earth ARE Allah's throne, and that's why that hadith says the sun goes underneath the throne. It thinks the sun sets underneath the flat earth just like most thought back then.

There is a hadith that tells us that initially there was just throne of Allah on water and later Allah created heavens and the earth so throne must be different from earth and heavens.

So there was water before the heavens and earth?? See?? See what an obviously stupid person this is??? And they ignore it

Here it is... I havent quoted the complete hadith because rest of the stuff isnt related..
Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 414



"… He (Muhammad) said, "First of all, there was nothing but Allah, and (then He created His Throne). His throne was over the water, and He wrote everything in the Book (in the Heaven) and created the Heavens and the Earth…"

Have a look at this dumbo .. If there was nothing then where was Allah sitting? Also what was holding that water if there was nothing ? To understand these things one doesnt have to literate .Such statements can come only from a person who is excessively low on IQ..

The problem is that we have to remember that after Muhammad does not give the correct answer as to where the sun goes when it sets, where the only correct answer would be "nowhere", and instead he says it goes somewhere and prostrates, he DOES say that the sun goes underneath the throne, and this is why I'm thinking that the throne in this case means all of the heavens and earth, and ultimately the sun is going underneath the flat earth and hence the entire throne, to it's daily resting place whereby it prostrates to Allah and asks Allah for permission to rise again and continue on it's course.

I think that seemed logical to people back then. Again it reflects the 7th century ideas.People during the 7th century especially Muhammad and his illiterate bandits must have thought sun really goes somewhere else . So it has to be Allah obviously making it disappear and holding it back somewhere till the time it comes back.Again this also reflects that quran can never be talking about earth orbiting around the sun . If Muhhamad really knew about orbiting he wouldnt be making such statements.

Isn't that a beautifully poetic idea?? And that's what it intended to do while it thought is was explaining the truth of things and therefore confirming Muhammad was legitimate, while never realizing how this would be in error in later times.

It's so obvious that it might as well pluck you in the nose. One might as well simply look at their hand if they would like to see something less obvious.

Muhammad's stupidity is unpredictable.You can never say that Muhhamad cant be that stupid.You can never say that Muhammad cannot cross the limits .I dont know why but it always happens that Muhhamad turns out to be more stupid than we think..