The Last Arrow

[letstalk]

The Last Arrow

Rajesh Kumar

Is The Quran Valid?
Let us suppose that there is an absolute God and Islam is the religion sent by Him through His beloved prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H).
I temporarily swallow the fact that there are numerous “varieties” of Islam as against the Muslims’ claim of the religion to be “one”, which into itself, is a big reason for questioning Islam as a valid religion.
Let me study two cases:
One: Islam has various sects and just one of them is valid.
Two: All the sects of Islam are valid, but one should stick to the sect of Islam that he was born on.
Starting here, being an ex-Muslim, I will demonstrate how a normal mind easily turns away from Islam with valid reasoning. Yet, the only reason for keeping sticking to Islam, is when a person, even after having learnt what black color is, continues to call it red “because his ancestors did so” or “because doing so proved her / him pious.” A third reason is monetary benefits, which do exist, but only few admit (if not ‘no one’).
We will examine both these cases at once below:
Suppose, only one sect of Islam is valid.
Which one is it? Ahl-e-sunnah? Ahl-e-Hadith? Ahl-e-Tashee? Ahl-e-Quran? Devbandi? Or any other one?
Whichever it is, the Muslims are laudable because they keep the “Quran” to be their central source of religion.
Although all the sects of Islam can be proven invalid only on the first hit that this same Quran lays down a criterion that “if it had not been the book of God, it would have had a number of discrepancies” and the fact is that there ARE a number of discrepancies in the Quran. This proves Quran not to be the book of God and hence all the sects of Islam fall fake on this basis.
I will now prove these discrepancies.
It is worth noting that the word ‘discrepancies’ can be seen in two possible scenarios:
1. Inter-verse discrepancies: That is, it says one thing at a place, while another thing at another place.
2. Inter-value discrepancies: That is, its teachings are in clash with the natural principles of love, truth, sacrifice etc.
This same Quran has a number of obvious discrepancies, which can be proven in no time. We will first prove this statement and later come to analyze the allied sects one by one. Fortunately, it is not a matter of reading volumes of books. I claim I can do it in 12 pages of an MS Word document! I also claim this article to be irrefutable. I don’t mind if you take it for pomposity, but like the sun WILL rise tomorrow, I WILL prove my claims.
Irrefutable discrepancies of the Quran
1. The first discrepancy appears right in Surah Al-Fatiha. Verse 1: “In the name of Allah, the Most (or the only) Gracious (one), the Most (or the only) Merciful.
The verse is clearly NOT pointing at a particular God. To me, an to anyone sane, it would appear like calling (as if looking for) a God “who is gracious and merciful.” The word Allah is NOT a personal name as against most Muslims’ belief. It is an Arabic expression, a combination of ‘Al’ meaning somewhat like “the” and ‘Ilah’, meaning a “venerable being” or “god”.. Clearly, the writer of Quran is “expecting” the God to be gracious and merciful, which this writer himself negates in the verses to come. It is like calling a God that he has not seen and trying to “flatter” him by saying “though art merciful sire.”
The Quran also DECLARES Allah to be the ONLY praiseworthy (Surah Al-Fatiha, Verse 1 after “Bismillah”).
Note: it is doubtlessly consistent that only the merciful can be praiseworthy and not the illogically brutal one.
Now the writer of the Quran supposes that there is a last day, on which “Allah” will gather everyone and cherish only those who believe him, this, he calls “the Judgment Day.” Remember, the Quran says that this ALL MERCIFUL GOD “Allah” will burn the non-believers for eternity. ETERNITY! The punishment for even millions of sins of a person who has passed an average of 70 years of life, for this MOST MERCIFUL GOD is everlasting “barbeque”. Does He intend to have us cooked and served for dinner? I ask, “Is Allah merciful or scornful?”
NOW
Until there the writer of the Quran is talking about Allah as a THIRD PERSON.
From the very next verse, the writer starts talking to “Allah” directly treating Him as a SECOND PERSON. “It is you that we worship and it is you that we seek help from.”
(Also note that an All Knowing, All NEEDLESS (Al-Ikhlas, Verse: 2) Allah, who is also the Only Most Merciful sounds like fond of making His believers bow and prostrate and cry and ask Him for help.)
Ridiculously enough, the writer of the Quran is ALSO seeking guidance from Allah (Al-Fatiha, last 02 verses)
Think about it. In the presence of Quran, what other guidance is he seeking? Clearly, the writer of the Quran himself doesn’t believe that the Quran provides guidance. Or he thinks that Quran is a poor source of guidance and wants some other guidance.
2. Surah Al-Baqarah starts with three Arabic letters called “Alif”, “Laam” and “Meem.” If we take them as individual letters, what are they and what do they stand for? If it is the fulfillment of the pray in Surah Al-Fatiha, what kind of “Allah’s grant” is it? According to all authentic Islamic and linguistic sources, no one knows the meaning of these three “sacred” letters (The Quran doesn’t define them anywhere, the Hadith clearly declares that only “Allah” knows their meanings.) Most definitely, these letters are an example of obscurity. Verse 2 of Surah Al-Baqarah says: “THAT (or this?) is the book that there is no obscurity (or DOUBTFUL thing) in it. On the other hand, the same Quran claims: “And we have made this Quran easy to understand, so is there anyone who ponders?”
I challenge you to ponder over “Alif”, “Laam” and “Meem” only and I bet you will either end up pondering forever or admitting that the verse of “easy Quran” is false..
And please don’t think your mental level is not as high as that of the writer of the Quran, because your mind is God’s creation. Now either you depend on the logic your God has gifted you or reject it supposing that your mind is a faulty creation of a lousy creator. Which one would you buy?
I hope this second discrepancy is also clear to you.
3. Even a dutiful school teacher is more merciful than “Allah” if we examine what Quran says about God. If a child tells his teacher “I don’t believe you.” a good teacher will sit down with him, talk to him and try to convince him. And if the teacher is genuinely good, he WILL convince and bring the child round. The most one would do is “ignore” him and say, “OK don’t believe me, I damn care.” But our most merciful Allah (Quran say, not me) will do anything to see his non-believing creation (His own creation!!!) burning in hellfire for eternity. This reminds me of the Chinese Kings of Ming and Chang dynasties who would leave their slaves to fight brutally and would rejoice when one of them would kill the other. Even these inhumanly kings wouldn’t burn the losers to eternity (Go ask them if you doubt).

4. A Hindu attendee of one of Dr. Naik’s oratories flashed a book called something like “20 Grammatical Errors of the Quran” in front of everyone and started mentioning these errors one by one. He was INTERRUPTED by the empathetic Dr. Naik, who replied that since the Arabic Grammar had been derived from the Quran, there can be no mistake in the Quran BUT in the grammar books. If you can see the funniness of this reasoning, my work has been reduced. But for those who couldn’t understand my point of view, I’ll ask a question, “If the current grammar books are wrong, how can a modern man understand the Quran correctly? But if they are correct, the Quranic grammar needs to be accepted wrong.” After all, why don’t the Arab grammarians update the grammar of their books? Fourteen centuries have passed and yet, the Arabic grammar stands against Quranic grammar. This is an obscurity, which proves the 2nd verse of Al-Baqarah to be false.
5. Anyone from an average Muslim to a Muslim Scholar would argue that the threat of an everlasting heaven or hell is just a threat / reward for keeping the followers away from sin. This proves the writer of the Quran to be an obnoxious teacher, who merely threatens kids to stop them from violating the decorum of the school. Remember, the teacher is NOT absolute, whereas, “Allah” is claimed to be absolute and an absolute creator wouldn’t play tricks to bring people to the path. If Muhammad, the prophet, had done it, it would have been a bit logical but if we try to presume this, we will end up concluding that Quran is the book of Muhammad and not of God. And this testifies the Quran as a book for threatening only… But for what? For noble values?
No.
For whatever, Muhammad, as a Narcissist Ruler and sex freak wanted.
Uh huh! Please don’t boil up, Muslims. As I promised, I am going to prove my point conclusively.
Here is a simple test comprising some important activities / questions meant to prove that the Quran is even not a book of ethics for the most part of it (with an exception of Surah Al-Maun, Surah An-Naas and a counted few verses).
I challenge all logicians, philosophers, religious scholars, researchers and humanists to prove the following definite test wrong.
To the Muslims, however, I sincerely and empathically request to be through the whole test and draw their own unbiased conclusion. I bet they will end up hating the Quran. Later on, we will examine the major sects of Islam and see how even they don’t make sense and are rather a curse than God’s blessing.
The Test:
No matter if you are a Hindu, a Christian, an Atheist, a Muslim or belong to any other religion, you will admit that the basic natural principles exist as common values among the human beings. No one would deny the importance and validity of deeds such as truth, love, fairness, trustworthiness, goodness, mutual help, creativity, conciliation etc. A normal mind can distinguish between real ethics and greatness, and the teachings of the Quran.

Here is a concrete and definite test to prove the Quran a non-miraculous, non-ethical and lying book in no time.

Fill the following table and draw results on your own. (Although this test is for anyone, it is especially for the Muslims because they have spent some time in Islam. It might prove a bit technical for other readers, yet, you may freely ask me questions, which I will try my level best to answer at the FFI forum. If needed, I will be ready for individual argument. But I suggest that everything goes on publicly for mass benefits). Let’s begin:

Resolution Quran’s stance (or that of Hadith) The comments of your conscience
(Please write what you genuinely think IS in line with the principles of love, truth, sacrifice and piety and NOT what you have as a script written on your mind by your religion or the people around you)
Vegetarian food is not only healthy but also a symbol of love as it wipes away the need for slaughtering the animals who have feelings and soul. (plants do take in food and air and grow… but do you think they have soul also? Do you condole a plant when it dies?) Dr. Naik talks about human teeth suitable for both meat and vegetable eating. I say, “our hands are suitable, both for eating and cheating in the examinations. Should we practice both the uses of our hands too?

Food for thought:
How do you see gifting a friend of yours a flower that you have plucked from its branch as compared to gifting him/her the head of a slaughtered little sparrow? Slaughter all animals but a few selected ones like pork and beasts. You are also “privileged” to kill the apostates!
We should love and help in our capacities, all the human beings regardless of caste, creed and ethnicity.

Food for thought:
Where while we consider feeding animals as a good deed, without being concerned about their caste, creed and ethnicity, why discriminate about human beings?

(According to a Hadith, a prostitute was sent to the heaven only because she gave water to a thirsty dog.) Only Allah, the Prophet and the Believers are the helpers of EACH OTHER!
Thousands of non-Muslim people who the Muslims consider “impure” touch the Quran. I personally held and read the Quran when I was contaminated after an ejaculation.

Food for thought:
Even you may try this wonderful test after making out with “him” or “her” Only the pure / clean people touch the Quran
Thousands of copies of the Quran have been destroyed by non- and ex- Muslims… even been burnt! In fact, Indian and Serbian armies have been reported to have urinated on the Quran.

Even the contents of the Quran are not safe. Two schools of Muslim scholars report two different numbers of the verses of the Quran.

The Quran exists in seven different dialects (at least) and each has (no matter how slight) differences in meanings.

Food for thought:
If all powerful God wanted to protect the Quran, would he have to depend on human beings? Even so, this process of protection is lousy. The Ahl-e-Tashee claim that ten Sections of the Quran (Parahs) had been eaten up by a goat.

The “concept” (although it is a reality) of loss of parts of Quran is supported by the fact that the oldest sample of Quran placed in a museum in Egypt has several missing parts as compared to the existing Quran.

Morever, in a much more established fashion, other many books like Gita, the Bible and other scriptures are safe since a long time earlier than the Quran itself.

(God bless that goat!) “Indeed We have descended this Zikr and indeed We are, for it the Protectors.”
If you believe you will go to heaven if you are killed without feeling more pain than a needle’s prick, would you like to stay alive?

Food for thought
A Hadith says that a Muslim, killed in the state of faith in Islam will go directly to the Paradise without being interrogated.

According to Quran. Paradise is an everlasting place where one would get “everything” one asks for. Who wouldn’t like to go there? “Telling lies is allowed to Muslims to save their lives” (Hadith)
How do you see “backbiting”?

Food for thought
Amazingly, backbiting has been mentioned as bad as eating another dead human being’s flesh in a Hadith. A Hdith proves Muhammad to have backbitten a person coming to his house from a tribe and when he came face to face with Muhammad, Muhammad talked to him in a respectful tone! Ayesha, Muhammad’s wife, was amazed. Muhammad consoled her by saying that one should not disgrace anyone in his face.
If you rate yourself to be a pious person, how do you like marrying many women and at the same time living (and forcing them all to live) hand to mouth… Making no efforts to improve your wives’ (not your own) standard of life?

Food for thought
Charity and the love of human beings especially women, children and the old people is thought to be a distinct characteristic of Islam.

The event of conquest of Makkah includes Muhammad’s instructions NOT to attack women, children and the elderly. The Quran allows unconditional marriages with at least four girls (even if you are a beggar, as Muhammad was). Muhammad has, in fact been reported to have instructed his wife to keep working without appointing a maid even though her hands had gone injured due to intensive household works.
I hope you agree that a person who knows not, needs guidance. A criminal needs counseling. Before he could be opted for punishment.

Food for thought
If you see someone committing crime and you are in power, yet, you let him continue, are you good or bad?

Should you stop him or let him / her go deeper and deeper in his crime?

Also, would Great God ever like to Misguide ANYONE? Remember, all of us are supposed to be His creation. The Quran doesn’t guide the evildoers. In the beginning of Al-Baqarah, it is clearly written, that Quran is the guidance only for those who are pious. (Already pious!!!).

The last sermon of Muhammad says, “whosoever Allah misguides, there is no one who can guide him.”
On one hand Quran encourages the seeking of knowledge “Even if you have to go to China”.

Food for thought
Buddhism has been the prevailing religion in China. “What other knowledge do you believe in after Allah and His verses?” (Quran)
1. Once I used to fear Allah
2. Once I used to believe in the unseen (Ghaib)
3. Once I was damn regular in offering Salaat
4. Once I used tospend out of what I earned

And now I am a vegetarian. And I also follow the good teachings of the bible.

Food for thought
According to the Quran itself, I am now the rightly guided one. If you say I am not, you are falsifying the verse of the Quran in the adjacent box in the next column. If you say I am the rightly guided one, I invite you too to read and follow Gita, Vedas and good teachings of Bible and other scriptures and apply good things in your lives (Stephen covey’s Seven Habits series of books is an ideal recommendation) “The Quran is the guidance for those who:
1. fear Allah
2. believe in the unseen (Ghaib)
3. damn regular in offering Salaat
4. spend out of what I earned.”
(Al-Baqarah)

I have not tried to prove that there is no God. Just that Quran is not His book for sure.

Now I shall begin a brief analysis of the major sects in Islam. I’ll try to focus their justifying claims and refute them in no time with solid proofs and logic:

The major sects in Islam, what they say and why they fall:

1. Ahl-e-Quran (Parvezi)
2. Ahl-e-Hadith (Wahabi)
3. Deobandi
4. Ahl-e-Sunnat (Barelvi / Hanafi) also called Dawat-e-Islami
5. Ahl-e-Tashee (Imamiah Ithna Ashree)
6. Qadiani (Ahmadi)
7. Agha Khani (Ismaili)


Sect Central Belief Faults
Ahl-e-Quran Quran must be understood on the basis of Wisdom and Hadith is not valid. We have given above sufficient evidence that Quran is not the book of God because it has many errors and discrepancies. What is the logical answer?
Quran claims “pray to me, I shall reply to you (or fulfill the request).”
Many a times in my life I prayed Allah, and I am still waiting for either hearing something from him or getting my pray fulfilled.
Secondly what does Quran say about “Huroof-e-Muqattiaat” life “alif, Laam, Meem” etc.?
Quran says if we have any doubt about any verse, ask the one who reads Quran before you.
I asked the above questions to senior Quran readers and they couldn’t answer me. What is the Quran’s instructions in this situation?
The Quran says, “Did you not se how your Lord acted with the people of Elephant?”
Obviously we did not see. Or did Allah not know it and is asking us? Or is Allah addressing to Muhammad? What does your “wisdom” say about it?
“My” wisdom says… “Sorry Allah, I thought you knew what I have in the depths of my heart… But you are asking me… You disappointed me.”
Ahl-e-Hadith Quran cannot be understood without the help of Hadith. So Quran is not easy to understand as it claims, right?
Deobandi The fundamental concept is the same and so is the fault.
Ahl-e-Sunnah Fiqah is needed to understand the teachings of the Quran. Ah! So you are suggesting that Quran is even more difficult to understand! Your point of view is closer to mine. Where you infer that Quran is difficult as against its claim that it is easy, I say it is impossible. Turns and twists of logics given by sticky and stubborn Mullahs like Ahmed Raza Khan Barelvi, Imam Shafai, Ahmad Bin Hanbal, Abu Hanifa and so on have dragged innocent faithful Muslims deep down in the ditches of lies, brutality and inhumanity.
Ahl-e-Tashee Follow the Quran and Imam. Quran has already been proven wrong. Imam’s are leaving no stones unturned in distracting people. Yet, some of the teachings of “Ali” in Nahjul Balaghah are marvelous. I find no problem following such teachings.
BUT
It doesn’t prove Islam to be the religion of God.
Qadiani
Since they also base their belief system on the same Quran, whatever their beliefs might be, are invalid. Yet, Agha Khani (Ismailis are commendable because they have put the Quran back and accepted the leadership of Prince Karim Agha Khan, who is known to have done a lot of work for the human and community welfare. I wish they stop eating meat and continue staying away from killing the people of other peaceful religions.
Agha Khani

If you ask me, I would request all of you to stop killing and eating animals. If you wish to pass a “good” life and end up a “good” hereafter, why not follow the teachings of saints? Why not make Shri Krishna and Shri Ram the role models, why not live like Ali and die like Hussain (with the exception of meat eating and killing “apostates”). Why nor apply the Maha Bharat, the Bhadawad Gita and the Ramayan in our lives? Why not love the humanity? Why not read Stephen Covey and see what he has to give you? Why not use our faculties for the human welfare? Why not live a selfless exemplary life? Why not live like Mother Teresa and die like a soldier of “good war”. I request you all.

[Chiclets]

Welcome to the forum letstalk.

[letstalk]

Thanks for welcoming me. However, since I am in pakistan and have gone exposed to many people. i may not be left alive for a long time. i'll try to contribute to FFI as much as possible as long as i live. then if i get a chance i'll try to log in to FFI from my eternal adobe of hell fire. LOL.

[expozIslam]

welcome letstalk to FFI. Please don't do anything stupid that puts you at risk. Please use a proxy server for FFI to avoid explicit tracking.
There are quite a few ex-muslims from Pakistan who are members of this forum. You may get in touch with Amar Khan.
You have an interesting way of putting across your message and I am sure you can make an invaluable contribution towards eradicating islam and for that you need to avoid doing things that put you at risk.

If necessary, seek asylum in a western country.

[AhmedBahgat]

Well

Welome 'Let's Copy and Paste'. I mean "Let's Copy and Paste"

[junkmaster]

Well

Welome 'Let's Copy and Paste'. I mean "Let's Copy and Paste"

Since your response is little more than Ad Hominem, should we infer that you have no objections to any of his arguments?

I know of another author that relied heavily on "Copy and Paste" and you live your life according to him, perhaps it was a compliment?

[letstalk]

Thanks for warning me. I know, i do have threats here. but if one can die for hunger, another for a tumor, why shouldn't i die for a cause? Don't worry, Bhagwan Krishna Does help me.

For now, please read this and please "copy and paste" it in a forum where it suits better. You have the copyright :- :


Words of Wisdom (Part I): By Rajesh Kumar

Let me greet you with the ACTUAL Islamic greeting:

Ass, Slam, Oooh!!!, Ahhh!!!, Lick… Ummmm… War, Ahhh!!!, Mate, All Ahhh!!!, Hey!, Web, Are, Ache, At, Yoohooooo!!!

(Dr. Naik says it wrongly. He says “Assalam-o-Alaikum Wa-Rahmatul-lahi Wa-Barakaatu-hu”)

Topic: ALLAH

1. Allah is “all ahhh!!!”
2. Allah loves Muhammad. Muhammad loves Allah. Both are males. What should we understand?
3. Allah will gather all human beings on the Day of Judgment. If anybody happen to meet him, please ask him to excuse me because at that time I’d rather be doing something sensible. If he insist on my presence there, please submit my resignation as given below:

Dated: Doomsday, 20000000?

To: Allah
The Creator of a Disc-Like World
Seventh Sky

Subject: Resignation from Your Slavery

Un-Respected Sir (If you are sure you are a male)

It is stated with undue respect that… that… that….
GO TO HELL…. I don’t have better words for you.

Yours never,

Rajesh Kumar

(Please correct any mistakes I might have made in this resignation because it is Allah’s hobby to pick peoples’ errors. He cares not about his errors. He might give me eternal punishment only on making just a single spelling error.)
4. Allah has no son! I sincerely advise him to see Dr. Zakir Naik (no need for an appointment because Naik, another male, is already keen about Allah). Dr. Naik is a medical graduate and he will surely help Allah to restore his fertility.
5. Muhammad has been ordered by Allah to say “If you love Allah, then obey me. Allah will love you.” How many males does Allah require to love him? Dr. Naik! Can you please treat Allah so well that he begin to think of getting married…. with a female please.
6. Muslims find it their duty to follow Muhammad as per the above nurse… I mean verse. Others must please protect their seven years old daughters because Aisha was 7 when Muhammad took her away.
7. No eye has ever seen Allah and can never see him. Either because what is NOT there cannot be seen or because he is in his birthday suit!!! Please be seen. I’ll arrange some Kelvin Klein product for you.
8. Look out! He is watching all of us EVERYWHERE!!! Does it mean no answering the call of nature? No taking bath? No intercourse from now on? Allah! You better care about our privacy. We can dial 911 (15 in Pakistan) if you don’t give up peeping in here.
9. Allah is all praiseworthy. I suppose he is more like Pamela Anderson when she is showing herself off. I suggest Allah to perform a striptease to please his creation some day. I swear I’ll be the first to praise him in front of everyone. His picture must be there at www.met-art.com.
10. Quran says on behalf of Allah, “Pray to ME, I shall ANSWER you.” When?
11. Muhammad advised Muslims to beg Allah for whatever they need. Even if it is a shoelace. Dear Allah, please read point number 9 above. I’m dying to see your show! Two: I already have a shoelace. Can you arrange something better for me? Allah…. Allah…. Where are you? Gabriel, please give him my message when he is in the mode of hearing…. Gabriel!!! GABRIEL!!! GABRIELLLLLL !!!!!!
12. I suppose I have done a lot to please Allah. If he ever comes back, he’ll find my Words of Wisdom Part II ready. See you Allah… Mmmuah!!!

[yeezevee]

letstalk

Thanks for warning me. I know, i do have threats here. but if one can die for hunger, another for a tumor, why shouldn't i die for a cause? Don't worry, Bhagwan Krishna Does help me.

For now, please read this and please "copy and paste" it in a forum where it suits better. You have the copyright :- :


Words of Wisdom (Part I): By Rajesh Kumar

How are you doing letstalk?? your Bhagwan Krishna(BK) may help you after you die., but that BK is no use in helping your cause., whatever that cause may be. Who is Mr. Rajesh Kumar? Any links??

Let me greet you with the ACTUAL Islamic greeting:

Ass, Slam, Oooh!!!, Ahhh!!!, Lick… Ummmm… War, Ahhh!!!, Mate, All Ahhh!!!, Hey!, Web, Are, Ache, At, Yoohooooo!!!

(Dr. Naik says it wrongly. He says “Assalam-o-Alaikum Wa-Rahmatul-lahi Wa-Barakaatu-hu”)

Why SO MUCH HATE against Dr. Naik that to without reason?

8. Look out! He is watching all of us EVERYWHERE!!! Does it mean no answering the call of nature? No taking bath? No intercourse from now on? Allah! You better care about our privacy. We can dial 911 (15 in Pakistan) if you don’t give up peeping in here.
9. Allah is all praiseworthy. I suppose he is more like Pamela Anderson when she is showing herself off. I suggest Allah to perform a striptease to please his creation some day. I swear I’ll be the first to praise him in front of everyone. His picture must be there at www.met-art.com.
10. Quran says on behalf of Allah, “Pray to ME, I shall ANSWER you.” When?
11. Muhammad advised Muslims to beg Allah for whatever they need. Even if it is a shoelace. Dear Allah, please read point number 9 above. I’m dying to see your show! Two: I already have a shoelace. Can you arrange something better for me? Allah…. Allah…. Where are you? Gabriel, please give him my message when he is in the mode of hearing…. Gabriel!!! GABRIEL!!! GABRIELLLLLL !!!!!!

Again I am not very certain your Jokes and links really help your cause.. whatever that cause may be dear mr.letstalk ..


with best regards
yeezevee

[letstalk]

Dear YeeZeeVee

1. Do you not hate the self proclaimed prophet? and you are asking me why i am full of hatred against him?
2. You are asking about the cause. Well, the "cause" the "objective" of this website is clearly known to almost every member. "Annihilation of Islam".
3. Krishna Bhagwan IS helping me right now just as well because you can see that a Islam-leaver (myself) is still alive in the most reactive Islamic country.
4. You are asking about Rajesh Kumar. That is myself. I could have posted my past Muslim name as well, but my good friends and Ali Sina himself advised me to hide my identity. but if you insist, i'll whisper in your ears.

[letstalk]

since ffi website doesnt seem as simple as it was earlier plus i have very limited access to the net, can anyone please guide me and say how i can participate in adebate against a muslim scholar etc here? please write to me on: rajesh.old.rafay@gmail.com

[yeezevee]

letstalk says

since ffi website doesnt seem as simple as it was earlier plus i have very limited access to the net, can anyone please guide me and say how i can participate in adebate against a muslim scholar etc here? please write to me on: rajesh.old.rafay@gmail.com

dear letstalk.., You need some Sufi drinks and Sufi food along with your Krishna Bhagwan., lol... please cool down., .. Here is my e-mail., .. yeezevee@hotmail.com .. talk to me, send me PM., I will keep in touch with you

Now going back to your points..

Dear YeeZeeVee

1. Do you not hate the self proclaimed prophet? and you are asking me why i am full of hatred against him?

NOPE., I don't I don't hate self proclaimed prophet/s., there are dime a dozen., As long as I have freedom to question and as long as their follower don't bother me., I am OK with self proclaimed prophet/s

2. You are asking about the cause. Well, the "cause" the "objective" of this website is clearly known to almost every member. "Annihilation of Islam".

What is Annihilation and what is Islam dear letstalk ? I say this website is about telling truth on cults and educate those who believe in cults., Islam happened to be one of them., Now it is also true we have CULTS in other religions., and we should question them also. Muhammad's islam is tricky thing., Islam is not only a cult but it has large number of followers who are Dangerously cultish to rest of the humanity

3. Krishna Bhagwan IS helping me right now just as well because you can see that a Islam-leaver (myself) is still alive in the most reactive Islamic country.

that is fine if your krishan Bhagwan helps you., you have every right to use his/her help in helping yourself and helping others..

4. You are asking about Rajesh Kumar. That is myself. I could have posted my past Muslim name as well, but my good friends and Ali Sina himself advised me to hide my identity. but if you insist, i'll whisper in your ears.

Opps sorry I didn't get that., So you are mr.Rajesh Kumar if that nick name Rajesh Kumar helps you NOT TO GET IN TO TROUBLES WITH BIGOTS in the palce you are living., then keep it., but I AM NOT CERTAIN., HOW ABOUT agent- 007 .. lol..

with best wishes., please keep in touch with e-mails/PMs..
yeezevee

[AhmedBahgat]

since ffi website doesnt seem as simple as it was earlier plus i have very limited access to the net, can anyone please guide me and say how i can participate in adebate against a muslim scholar etc here? please write to me on: rajesh.old.rafay@gmail.com

Haha, you want to debate a Muslim scholar

what a jerk