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Re: A challenge to FFIers from BMZ

Postby debunker » Fri May 01, 2009 7:59 am

for the word Wessam, he wrote it first time with a Ya, and the second time witout a Ya, and guess what, in Arabic, the human name Wesam xan be written with or without a Ya as I clearly showed you filthy tard of a blind


When did you invent this most excellent rule, Bahgat? Just yesterday? Besides, you blatant liar, WESSAM is an Arabic word that means something like a "medal"... and it is also used as a name. So are you saying that Arabic words, when used as names, they can be mis-spelled? What a lying freak.

Unless you are telling me that all those Arab people named Wessam have written their own names wrong on these Arab forums


And so what, if some Arab people abuse the Arabic language when they choose their user names on Arabic forums? It's very common, everything goes when you choose your user name... for example a member here has the nickname "crazyMonkie"... and it's not very uncommon for people to deliberately abuse spelling when choosing their nicnames.

In fact you liar, the reason why when you do a google search using the wrong spelling ويسام you EXCLUSIVELY get links to forums and stupid sites! Because such wrong language is possible for forum user names or forums and places full of uneducated half-illiterates.
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Re: A challenge to FFIers from BMZ

Postby AhmedBahgat » Fri May 01, 2009 8:02 am

KhaliL FarieL wrote:_________________________

charleslemartel wrote:Debunker tried to salvage Dr Zahid from atheism.


Did not know many in here are furious to atheism to this extent..!!

Ability to believe and maintain that belief in "supernatural" is a luxury, which many in the world cannot afford. I am just one of them. I would never preach atheism to a helpless human being. God or gods can be very helpful in helplessness. Again not in the case of people like me.

[Sigh]

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Exactly Khalil

He is a filthy fake of a cheat, it is like was telling him, all atheists are doomed, yet he is telling him to follow JW because they have no concept of hell, how hypocrite

Only the fools like mental and skyarse would buy his clear cut crap
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Re: A challenge to FFIers from BMZ

Postby charleslemartel » Fri May 01, 2009 8:03 am

AhmedBahgat wrote:
charleslemartel wrote:
Also tell me how you feel when you see the list of people you have dismissed for life :)


I love it

I spend about 30 minutes a day, looking at the list

I am actually thinking of re-launching Free Islam wall of shame


A friendly advise: print that list and paste it next to your mirror. May be that will help you in being more honest to yourself.

(I do not demand that you be honest with others; but try to be more honest to yourself, man)
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Re: A challenge to FFIers from BMZ

Postby piscohot » Fri May 01, 2009 8:04 am

have to say i am enjoying this 'debate'

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Ahmed the compulsive liar getting his ar*e exposed for all to see.

Carry on......... :*)
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Re: A challenge to FFIers from BMZ

Postby debunker » Fri May 01, 2009 8:08 am

Dear Khalil,

Thank God, I am by no means a helpless being. Throughout my life I have been blessed. And I am not saying that I was blessed because I am a Muslim, I know many Muslims who are far better believers than me who live very miserable lives. All I'm saying is that despite my many blessings, I don't feel I'm over the idea of God! I am not that arrogant, dear Khalil, and apparently, neither are countless others who are extremely blessed.

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Re: A challenge to FFIers from BMZ

Postby AhmedBahgat » Fri May 01, 2009 8:10 am

Hello all

Let me show you who is the confused liar who lnows no Arabic:

debunker wrote:You just answered your own question... because the different words gave the same meaning. But "angel" does not give the meaning of anything but angel. It implies that the Egyptians believed in angels. Look, many polytheistic religions believed in angels and demons, but as far as I know, the Egyptians didn't (I understand of course that angel was used to describe beauty, but how can you use something you never heard of before to describe anything?)



AhmedBahgat wrote:I am sorry pal, the Arabic word Malak ملك, means other things, like a king, or possessor

the only word that specifically means angel is malaaaaak ملاك, see how I stessed the aaaa, this is because the word used by the ladies does not have such Alif letter

now Malaaaaak = must mean 100 % angel

however Malak ملك (without an alif), can mean angel, or it can mean king or it can mean possessor

that should be enough to clear a bit of your confusion regading this word used by the ladies


debunker wrote:Now, ملاك (for angel) is NOT even Arabic. It is used in the common (spoken) language of Arabs today, but it's wrong! The correct word (for angel) is ملك.


:*) :*) :*)

See what the filthy confused traitor said above, let's see how he was exposed:


AhmedBahgat wrote:Read this dictionries and learn that the word Malaaaak is a proper Arabic word for angel:

http://lexicons.sakhr.com/openme.aspx?f ... 79466.html

http://lexicons.sakhr.com/openme.aspx?f ... 88480.html



debunker wrote:Ok, I always thought that MaLaaaak was only used in today's spoken (screwed up) Arabic. But apparently it's used in the formal written Arabic too.


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Re: A challenge to FFIers from BMZ

Postby charleslemartel » Fri May 01, 2009 8:11 am

KhaliL FarieL wrote:_________________________

charleslemartel wrote:Debunker tried to salvage Dr Zahid from atheism.


Did not know many in here are furious to atheism to this extent..!!

Ability to believe and maintain that belief in "supernatural" is a luxury, which many in the world cannot afford. I am just one of them. I would never preach atheism to a helpless human being. God or gods can be very helpful in helplessness. Again not in the case of people like me.

[Sigh]

KF


Beliefs in the supernatural are like drugs. The effect of drugs makes one forget his worries for some time, and that is why drugs are so alluring. But the worries and the problems do not melt away when one is under the influence. They keep waiting till you get sober and then confront you again with renewed force. In fact the more time you waster under the influence, the worse your problems become.

This is not to say that drugs no not help at all. Recourse to drugs has probably saved many from committing suicide. But if you come to discuss your worries with me, I will naturally give you what I believe is the best advise.
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Re: A challenge to FFIers from BMZ

Postby debunker » Fri May 01, 2009 8:13 am

@ Bahgat

Good, you reminded of one more lie... when you were trying to say that the Arabic words for Angel and King can be used interchangeably! What a most excellent liar!
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Re: A challenge to FFIers from BMZ

Postby AhmedBahgat » Fri May 01, 2009 8:14 am

charleslemartel wrote:
AhmedBahgat wrote:
charleslemartel wrote:
Also tell me how you feel when you see the list of people you have dismissed for life :)


I love it

I spend about 30 minutes a day, looking at the list

I am actually thinking of re-launching Free Islam wall of shame


A friendly advise: print that list and paste it next to your mirror. May be that will help you in being more honest to yourself.

(I do not demand that you be honest with others; but try to be more honest to yourself, man)



Why don't you worry about your honesty first you confused misguided kafir?

or are you telling us that you reached your 100% level of honesty, and now you are checking others

Dismiss yourself you stupid filthy kafir bound to hell
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Re: A challenge to FFIers from BMZ

Postby charleslemartel » Fri May 01, 2009 8:23 am

AhmedBahgat wrote:Why don't you worry about your honesty first you confused misguided kafir?
or are you telling us that you reached your 100% level of honesty, and now you are checking others

Dismiss yourself you stupid filthy kafir bound to hell


:lol:

First, it is nothing but a tu quoque.

Secondly, I am certainly one hundred percent honest to myself in the matters I am advising you to be honest. Give me some good reason or argument or evidence to believe, and you will find me believing in a creator God.

Do you think I know/think/believe that there is some creator God and his hell where I will be roasted till eternity for not believing in him, and yet I choose to disbelieve just because I love being roasted?
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Re: A challenge to FFIers from BMZ

Postby AhmedBahgat » Fri May 01, 2009 8:28 am

charleslemartel wrote:
AhmedBahgat wrote:Why don't you worry about your honesty first you confused misguided kafir?
or are you telling us that you reached your 100% level of honesty, and now you are checking others

Dismiss yourself you stupid filthy kafir bound to hell


:lol:

First, it is nothing but a tu quoque.

Secondly, I am certainly one hundred percent honest to myself in the matters I am advising you to be honest. Give me some good reason or argument or evidence to believe, and you will find me believing in a creator God.

Do you think I know/think/believe that there is some creator God and his hell where I will be roasted till eternity for not believing in him, and yet I choose to disbelieve just because I love being roasted?


Hahahah

Thanks for the laugh, and I don't want you to believe, I will be missing seeing you in the hell Showtime, so please stay kafir

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Re: A challenge to FFIers from BMZ

Postby charleslemartel » Fri May 01, 2009 8:33 am

AhmedBahgat wrote:
Spoiler! :
charleslemartel wrote:
AhmedBahgat wrote:Why don't you worry about your honesty first you confused misguided kafir?
or are you telling us that you reached your 100% level of honesty, and now you are checking others

Dismiss yourself you stupid filthy kafir bound to hell


:lol:

First, it is nothing but a tu quoque.

Secondly, I am certainly one hundred percent honest to myself in the matters I am advising you to be honest. Give me some good reason or argument or evidence to believe, and you will find me believing in a creator God.

Do you think I know/think/believe that there is some creator God and his hell where I will be roasted till eternity for not believing in him, and yet I choose to disbelieve just because I love being roasted?

Hahahah

Thanks for the laugh, and I don't want you to believe, I will be missing seeing you in the hell Showtime, so please stay kafir

Spoiler! :
You are:

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Is that because you know I will not be there in the hell Showtime? :lol:

Even if I am there, you will have no time for me as you will be looking at Muhammad with shock of your life :)
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Re: A challenge to FFIers from BMZ

Postby KhaliL » Fri May 01, 2009 9:02 am

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charleslemartel wrote: Beliefs in the supernatural are like drugs.


But I think it is not as toxic as drugs. True Islam is an exception.

charleslemartel wrote: The effect of drugs makes one forget his worries for some time, and that is why drugs are so alluring.


Yet I think we should NOT discourage someone who finds solace in believing in a higher power. The hero in Naguib Mahfouz’s “Respected Sir” is a firm believer who found happiness (I would say satisfaction because ultimately human beings are seeking satisfaction and not happiness) in believing god exists above him. He suffered a lot but still existed because he could believe.

charleslemartel wrote: But the worries and the problems do not melt away when one is under the influence.


I am not advocating drugs at all if you meant that.(I volunteered for a d-addiction centre and that was very helpful for me to recognize drugs of abuse.) From my experience I can say no good psychiatrist prescribes antidepressants or tranquillizers for worries of daily life. Depression or GAD are not simple worries but pathological disorders need to be treated.

charleslemartel wrote: They keep waiting till you get sober and then confront you again with renewed force. In fact the more time you waster under the influence, the worse your problems become.


However drugs like Prozac can be helpful in depression if it is not chronic. Depression usually remits on its own for many people within six to nine months. But antidepressants can shorten this period. Sadly many never recover from the Prozac habit. It is a psychological dependence. Once you use them, they damage self-confidence almost irreparably.

charleslemartel wrote: This is not to say that drugs no not help at all. Recourse to drugs has probably saved many from committing suicide.


Psychotherapy also helps. Any materialist can believe in god or gods as a psychotherapeutic means. For e.g. believing in a supernatural power "who does not like human beings end their lives on their own" can be an effective hindrance (from suicide) to some people.

Sadly; there is a flipside for this. Cults like Islam;

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Re: A challenge to FFIers from BMZ

Postby skynightblaze » Fri May 01, 2009 9:05 am

AhmedBahgat wrote:
Spoiler! :
skynightblaze wrote:
AhmedBahgat wrote:Here is another one for you Aksel:

الملف الشخصي لـ ويسام

http://www.livearabictv.net/vb/member.php?u=13622


so, you got to admit, that I taught you something new, that Wessam as an Arabic name can be written with a Ya or without a Ya, as I have numerously showed

you should thank BMZ for teaching you so

cheers


Do not try to protect his arse you dumb. IF he was so confident then why did he say that I made a mistake while translating into arabic? This shows that he wasnt sure what he wrote and someone like you helped him to make a point. He is contradicting himself here now . The only explanation is he was told how to do arabic and he doesnt understand the basics of arabic. SO now dismiss yourself and spin a coin with your male lover.


Filthy wannabe traitor

the mistake done by BMZ was writing the word Ahl, with two lams, and that was the only mistake he made

for the word Wesam, he wrote it first time with a Ya, and the second time without a Ya, and guess what, in Arabic, the human name Wesam can be written with or without a Ya, as I clearly showed everyone you filthy tard of a blind

Unless you are telling me that all those Arab people named Wessam have written their own names wrong on these Arab forums
dismiss your arese you filthy tard, and btw, you are on the verge of life dismissal, so be careful



Whether WisSam can be written in arabic as Wessam or not I am not interested in that . YOu may or may not be right thats a different issue(though I see debunker slashing your filthy arse). The point is your mentally handicapped friend doesnt know arabic .HE did contradict himself. I guess these are the basics of a language and the most excellent troll claims to be an expert of the language!!.He is a complete bloody liar and a pathetic dumb troll .Btw shove your life dismissal list up your bum because that isnt going to stop me from exposing that retard.
Look around yourself and you'll find people with virtues are never required to demand respect since they automatically earn it. It is only those that are devoid of any virtues need to threaten and bully to gain respect. Needless to say that quran cannot be from God.
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Re: A challenge to FFIers from BMZ

Postby skynightblaze » Fri May 01, 2009 9:17 am

Bahgat wrote:Exactly Khalil

He is a filthy fake of a cheat, it is like was telling him, all atheists are doomed, yet he is telling him to follow JW because they have no concept of hell, how hypocrite

Only the fools like mental and skyarse would buy his clear cut crap


SO now you have a problem when Debunker says the part in red above and surprisingly you have no problem when your quran says the same thing about atheism and people who worship other GODs.Wow what a hypocrite!!
Look around yourself and you'll find people with virtues are never required to demand respect since they automatically earn it. It is only those that are devoid of any virtues need to threaten and bully to gain respect. Needless to say that quran cannot be from God.
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Re: A challenge to FFIers from BMZ

Postby debunker » Fri May 01, 2009 9:17 am

@ sky

You're right. BMZ is someone trying to learn Arabic. But it's very obvious he's not anywhere near good yet.

But at least, his lie that he's a perfect speaker of Arabic is more tolerable than the lies of Bahgat... who lies even though he knows his lies have absolutely nothing to do with Arabic!
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Re: A challenge to FFIers from BMZ

Postby AhmedBahgat » Fri May 01, 2009 9:26 am

skynightblaze wrote:Blah blah

My arse is ablaze




You have been life dismissed
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Re: A challenge to FFIers from BMZ

Postby skynightblaze » Fri May 01, 2009 9:30 am

AhmedBahgat wrote:
skynightblaze wrote:Blah blah

My arse is ablaze




You have been life dismissed


Thanks!! Now I am a free bird and now see how I entertain everyone.
Look around yourself and you'll find people with virtues are never required to demand respect since they automatically earn it. It is only those that are devoid of any virtues need to threaten and bully to gain respect. Needless to say that quran cannot be from God.
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Re: A challenge to FFIers from BMZ

Postby skynightblaze » Fri May 01, 2009 9:32 am

debunker wrote:@ sky

You're right. BMZ is someone trying to learn Arabic. But it's very obvious he's not anywhere near good yet.

But at least, his lie that he's a perfect speaker of Arabic is more tolerable than the lies of Bahgat... who lies even though he knows his lies have absolutely nothing to do with Arabic!


Both are stinking liars . You cannot compare them . Both of them need someone to whip their bums.I see I have just been life dismissed and now I am free.
Look around yourself and you'll find people with virtues are never required to demand respect since they automatically earn it. It is only those that are devoid of any virtues need to threaten and bully to gain respect. Needless to say that quran cannot be from God.
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Re: A challenge to FFIers from BMZ

Postby Aksel Ankersen » Fri May 01, 2009 9:38 am

AhmedBahgat wrote:Hey Aksel

Here is another guy named ويسام
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http://www.ps-revolution.com/forum/15789.html

I don't know why I'm arguing this because it's such a trivial and petty matter, this will be my last post on the subject.

I'll save you the time of going through every place on the internet where ويسام was mentioned.

There are about 8,960 google results for "ويسام"

And 24,600,000 results for "وسام"

Now the first spelling is sufficently rare to qualify as a typo. Let's try my name for instance; Aksel, that's a very uncommon name but still gets 2,520,000 results.

Now how does one make a typo while copy and pasting the letters (assuming he wasn't using an Arabic keyboard)? You don't make typos that way, you just mispell words that you don't know. Also this is the kind of typo that reveals a shaky understanding of the language... Like if someone claiming to be an English professor reads the "ph" in Pharaoh as "puh" rather than "f".


AhmedBahgat wrote:Also Aksel, be careful not to indulge yourself with such filthy homosexual traitor in any mocking against me

Cheers

I haven't "mocked" you (in this thread anyway) and this is a transparent and baloney attempt to turn me against debunker. Your suggestion that he is a kafir masquerading as a Muslim is silly, he has spent many hours arguing toughly with the non-Muslims here - LCD and Khalil for instance.
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