Jesus was born a Jew, and Jews know God as a Father, because that is what the O.T.tells them about God, which is why He used the term Father when praying to God.BaigZaheer wrote:There is nothing in Qur'aan to show that Jesus called Allah as the Father. So, my statement that Jesus was an obedient servant of God stands.frankie wrote:BaigZaheerThere is nothing in Qur'aan to show that Jesus called Allah as the Father. So, my statement that Jesus was an obedient servant of God stands.Digression changes nothing.
Jesus could not have been a prophet of Allah, because he disobeyed Allah by addressing him as a Father, together with obeying YHWH's commands by preaching the same message as all true prophets do, repent from sin, and love God and all people regardless of faith, and not the message from Allah which tells his prophet Mohammed to use terror(ism)to spread his alleged message to mankind.
I had made it earlier that Jesus came with nothing new, gave nothing new and left behind new. The same message was given through all prophets and some of it was repeated by Jesus.
Millions of Jews, gypsies and others were terrorised and converted to Christianity and millions of Jews, gypsies and others were also slaughtered, burned alive and boiled in all by the European Christians. The Jews are a living testimony to that. Right? Christianity has a very horrible record. Muhammad spread no terror.
Christianity has recently been tamed a few decades after WWII.
I would strongly recommend that you read The Dark Side of Christianity by Helen Ellerbie.
Allah is a father to no one; therefore Allah cannot be the god Jesus prayed to.
If Allah is not the god Jesus prayed to, then Allah proves to be a liar, because Allah claims Jesus is a prophet of Allah.
Have we not all one Father? Has not one God created us? Why then are we faithless to one another, profaning the covenant of our fathers?
But now, O LORD, you are our Father; we are the clay, and you are our potter; we are all the work of your hand.
Your opinion is irrelevant, the Bible God’s commands rest on love of God, and love of all people regardless of faith, which is what Jesus and all true prophets of YHWH preached.had made it earlier that Jesus came with nothing new, gave nothing new and left behind new. The same message was given through all prophets and some of it was repeated by Jesus.
Mohammed did not preach this same message, he preached warfare against “unbelievers” who are “the enemies of Islam and its people”, you cannot have Islamic love for anyone who is said to be your enemy, but you can if you are a follower of Jesus.
Allah’s commands directly oppose the commands of YHWH,and the commands of Jesus.
Mohammed changed what God had revealed through His prophets; no one can change God’s words, but Mohammed did, proving he was a false prophet obeying a false god.
Christians in the past using violence in the name of their faith, can find no justification to do so in their scriptures, they are therefore violent in spite of their faith not because of it.Millions of Jews, gypsies and others were terrorised and converted to Christianity and millions of Jews, gypsies and others were also slaughtered, burned alive and boiled in all by the European Christians. The Jews are a living testimony to that. Right? Christianity has a very horrible record.
Muslims in the past and present using violence in the name of their faith, can find justification from their scriptures and role model prophets actions, they are violent because of their faith, not in spite of it.
Yes he did,in obedience to AllahMuhammad spread no terror.
Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with God, for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the Fire: And evil is the home of the wrong-doers!
Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."
Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of God and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom God doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of God, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly
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Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand." Abu Huraira added: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures (i.e. the Prophet did not benefit by them).