manfred wrote:Hi, I had another look, but so far no Zahaer yet. I have a hospital appointment later, but when I am back I look again.
manfred wrote:Found it. Up and running, with no new user restrictions.
AhmedBahgat wrote:My new provocative song that I just released humiliating the polytheists who worship hadith and sunnah
AhmedBahgat wrote:manfred wrote:Found it. Up and running, with no new user restrictions.
Thanks mate, he is really a nice 70 years old man who should be respected by younger people especially when his language of speech is totally different to mine
pr126 wrote:Welcome.
Hope you stay and post.
sum wrote:Hello BaigZaheer
A very warm welcome to you.
I would like to ask you if there is anything in the Koran with which you disagree? I am concerned that the Koran calls me the vilest of all creatures and wants me to convert or be killed because I not believe that Allah exists or that Muhammad was a prophet.
We are constantly told how tolerant Islam is but Allah seems to be extremely intolerant.
I ask your friend, AhmedBahgat, questions but as often as not he just replies that he is too busy with his longstanding itch.
I hope that you are more forthcoming with replies.
sum
frankie wrote:Baig Zaheer
I would like to ask you the same question I asked your friend, Ahmed Baghat,to which I got this reply, which is not very helpful ,and does not exactly prove he is serious about his faith.
“Hahahaha
Keep it itchy Frankie”
It is disappointing when Muslims come on this discussion board who profess to be serious about their faith Islam, but then shy away from answering the simplest of questions put to them about it.
“If you are a Quran only Muslim, then you have no way of knowing how to emulate the man you call prophet, who the Quran tells you “is an excellent pattern of conduct.”
Mohammed is the man who understood the Quran and put it into action the way Allah intended.
How can you do the same, if you do not follow the ways and example of this man who is your role model in all things Islamic?”
BaigZaheer wrote:frankie wrote:Baig Zaheer
I would like to ask you the same question I asked your friend, Ahmed Baghat,to which I got this reply, which is not very helpful ,and does not exactly prove he is serious about his faith.
“Hahahaha
Keep it itchy Frankie”
It is disappointing when Muslims come on this discussion board who profess to be serious about their faith Islam, but then shy away from answering the simplest of questions put to them about it.
“If you are a Quran only Muslim, then you have no way of knowing how to emulate the man you call prophet, who the Quran tells you “is an excellent pattern of conduct.”
Mohammed is the man who understood the Quran and put it into action the way Allah intended.
How can you do the same, if you do not follow the ways and example of this man who is your role model in all things Islamic?”
I can give you a short reply on this as I will be busy again:
You can ask anything as long as we can have a civil exchange.
For a Muslim, two things are very important and obligatory. Qur'aan and the Sunnah (the Way) shown by the Prophet.
Sunnah was passed from one generation to the next and while that was being done for 250 plus years, Muslims were doing everything according to Qur'aan and the Sunnah, without any Hadith tale collections.
All Hadith tale collectors like Bukhari, Muslim, Dawood, Ibn Ma'aja and others came from Central Asia. Whatever they heard, they lumped into their collections and many ridiculous, absurd ahaadith (plural of hadith) entered their collections through motor-mouths and Israeliyyaat, meaning tales coming from the Jews, Christians, converts and kafirs (pagans).
All the codes and conduct are there in Qur'aan and we emulate the Prophet through it and the Sunnah.
Please note that Hadith is not Sunnah, and Sunnah is not Hadith. Qur'aan IS The Scripture of Islam but Hadith is not!
Hope this helped.
Edited to add: Men like Ibne Ishaq, Tabari, Bukhari, Muslim, Dawood, Ibne Ma'aja and others were no scholars of Islam.
All Hadith tale collectors like Bukhari, Muslim, Dawood, Ibn Ma'aja and others came from Central Asia. Whatever they heard, they lumped into their collections and many ridiculous, absurd ahaadith (plural of hadith) entered their collections through motor-mouths and Israeliyyaat, meaning tales coming from the Jews, Christians, converts and kafirs (pagans).
Edited to add: Men like Ibne Ishaq, Tabari, Bukhari, Muslim, Dawood, Ibne Ma'aja and others were no scholars of Islam.
Where then do the stories in the Sunnah come from, if they are not part of the collection of hadiths? Have the hadith collections somehow missed out the stories found in the Sunnah, as you seem to be suggesting?BaigZaheer wrote:For a Muslim, two things are very important and obligatory. Qur'aan and the Sunnah (the Way) shown by the Prophet.
Sunnah was passed from one generation to the next and while that was being done for 250 plus years, Muslims were doing everything according to Qur'aan and the Sunnah, without any Hadith tale collections
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