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Re: Three of many errors in the Quran

PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:25 am
by frankie
Coming back to the original title of my post, you said:

“The determination of the location where the fluid is formed is irrelevant to the point of the verse...”

Not according to the tafsir it’s not, which is allegedly speaking in Allah’s name.

So instead of stating that the fluid exits from the penis, it says "from between the sulb and the taraaib

Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi - Tafhim al-Qur'an

"Sulb" is the backbone and "tara'ib"the breast- bones, i.e. the ribs. Since the procreative fluid in both man and woman is discharged from that part of the body which is between the back and the breast, it is said that man has been created from the fluid issuing out froth between the back and the breast.”

The Quran claims that the “sexual fluid “of a man, proceeds from the between his backbone, and the “sexual fluid” of a woman proceeds from her ribs/chest, both of which are wrong.

Quran 86.6-7
6. He is created from a drop emitted-

7. Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs:

Ibn Kathir Tafsir:

"Allah says,
فَلْيَنظُرِ الإِنسَـنُ مِمَّ خُلِقَ
(So, let man see from what he is created!) This is alerting man to the weakness of his origin from which he was created. The intent of it is to guide man to accept (the reality of) the Hereafter, because whoever is able to begin the creation then he is also able to repeat it in the same way. This is as Allah says,
وَهُوَ الَّذِى يَبْدَأُ الْخَلْقَ ثُمَّ يُعِيدُهُ وَهُوَ أَهْوَنُ عَلَيْهِ
(And He it is Who originates the creation, then He will repeat it; and this is easier for Him.) (30:27) Then Allah says,
خُلِقَ مِن مَّآءٍ دَافِقٍ
(He is created from a water gushing forth.) meaning, the sexual fluid that comes out bursting forth from the man and the woman. Thus, the child is produced from both of them by the permission of Allah. Due to this Allah says,
يَخْرُجُ مِن بَيْنِ الصُّلْبِ وَالتَّرَآئِبِ
(Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs.) meaning, the backbone (or loins) of the man and the ribs of the woman, which is referring to her chest. Shabib bin Bishr reported from `Ikrimah who narrated from Ibn `Abbas that he said,
يَخْرُجُ مِن بَيْنِ الصُّلْبِ وَالتَّرَآئِبِ
(Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs.) "The backbone of the man and the ribs of the woman. It (the fluid) is yellow and fine in texture. The child will not be born except from both of them (i.e., their sexual fluids).'' ... Itemid=142

The “sexual fluid “of a man is produced in the testes, found in the genital area, not the backbone of a man.
The “sexual fluid “of a woman, is formed within the vagina, during sexual intercourse, and plays no part in reproduction, it is there only for lubrication.

What does play a part in reproduction in a woman is the ovum, which is formed in the ovaries, found on each side of the lower abdomen, nowhere near the chest/ribs.

Allah got this wrong, making Allah fallible, meaning Allah cannot be God, as no God worthy of the name would make such fundamental errors about his own creation.

However many hoops you want to jump through, your own “holy” book condemns itself not to come from any creator, but from the minds of fallible men, who did not know any different to what was known at the time of their writing, allegedly 7th century Arabia.

The Quran proves it is manmade, not god made.

Re: Three of many errors in the Quran

PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:03 pm
by Fernando
Chiclets wrote:
Thanks Chiclets, video producer and Rationaliser, that just about sums it up. Why continue further with this thread?


Re: Three of many errors in the Quran

PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:41 pm
by frankie
Where are you Eagle?

Cat got your tongue?

Re: Three of many errors in the Quran

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:04 pm
by Centaur
Apparently Mohammed didnt always need his invisible friend jibreel to deliver messages to him.Here allahs messengers companion Umar says 3 things he suggested made it into Quran.
Sahih Bukhari
Hadith 1:395

Narrated 'Umar (bin Al-Khattab):

My Lord agreed with me in three things:
1. I said,"O Allah's Apostle, I wish we took the station of Abraham as our praying place (for some of our prayers). So came the Divine Inspiration: And take you (people) the station of Abraham as a place of prayer (for some of your prayers e.g. two Rakat of Tawaf of Ka'ba)". (quran:2.125)

2. And as regards the (verse of) the veiling of the women, I said, 'O Allah's Apostle! I wish you ordered your wives to cover themselves from the men because good and bad ones talk to them.' So the verse of the veiling of the women was revealed.

3. Once the wives of the Prophet made a united front against the Prophet and I said to them, 'It may be if he (the Prophet) divorced you, (all) that his Lord (Allah) will give him instead of you wives better than you.' So this verse (the same as I had said) was revealed." (66.5).
Mohammeds gang members revising,editing Quran :lol:

Lunatics support Koran!

PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:40 am
by Fernando
I'd forgotten all about this discussion of the Koran's teaching that the world was flat, until I spotted this. It seems that NASA is concealing the fact the the MOON is flat, too! Does that open them to prosection for Islamophobia?
Supermoon 2018: Did NASA lie about the FLAT moon? Shock claim moon is shielded by liquid
THE January supermoon will light up the night skies next week, but a conspiracy theorist has emerged to present “painful proof" that NASA lied about the shape of the moon.