SAM wrote:Tell me, Manfred. What is a 6 rules?
As I have said many times that Muslims don't give a sh!t damn about the Hadithss which are not related to the Quran and the Six Pillars of Faith.
running the six pillars of faith was simple, not complicated no need to perform certain movements no need hadist explanation. all you have to do is have faith in your heart.
related to the pillars of faith widely spread in the Koran, for example, Al Baqarah 177
Unimportant for Muslim except all the teachings of Islam, the Five Pillars of Islam and Six Pillars of Faith, the teachings of Abraham.. (SUBMISSION).manfred wrote:As I have said many times that Muslims don't give a sh!t damn about the Hadithss which are not related to the Quran and the Six Pillars of Faith.
SAM please to not be vulgar or rude. You can discuss things but not abuse people.
I gave you a specific example of some hadith that clearly are related to thr Qur'an: the ones about the Geckos. Here is the problem, as you clearly did not quite process that:
1) Mohammed told a story about Abraham and some idols, and about Abraham being thrown into the fire. The version of the story found the the Qu'ran says Allah cooled the flames so that Abraham suffered no harm. This story, Mohammed claimed and Muslims believe, has been revealed, just as it is, by Allah.
2) Later, we learn from other sources, Mohammed retold the story, or at least referred to it, but with some further, added details. We read about animals trying to stifle the flames and gecko trying to make them more fierce. For a story teller, it is totally normal to retell a story with a new twist or some new embellishments, but for Mohammed this is very odd. If Allah revealed the original version, how could Mohammed dare to add to it? If if was merely Mohammed's story from the start, sure no problem. But did Mohammed alter the words of Allah? So we can only draw one of two conclusions from this: either the Qur'an was merely Mohammed's own stories from the start, or Allah revealed some things more to Mohammed than is contained in the Qur'an. In classing the hadith about the gecko as sahih, the scholars clearly opted for the second option: Mohammed had additional information from Allah. This is in fact the basis of "sunnah".
3) If you then reject the story of the gecko as false, not only do you contradict generations of Muslim scholars, you also cast doubt on the Qur'an. If that part of the story is false, why should we believe any of it?
Now you mention the six pillars of faith again, as a sort of refuge for you. But who constructed that list? The same scholars who also assert that the hadith of the gecko is genuine. So one minute you put total trust in the scholars, the next to rudely dismiss what they say...
Six Pillars of Faith is the key to the Muslim faith.manfred wrote:The problem is not what you accept, SAM, it is what you refuse to examine.
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