Top 5 Errors in Koran

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Top 5 Errors in Koran

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Apart from being a repetitive and ambiguous junk what are the top 5 technical errors that pops to your mind
1.origin of sperm

2inheritance Law

3. women are deficient in intelligence

4 flat earth

5 which one is first created heaven or earth

6. Six or eight days of creation? Sura 7:54, 10:3, 11:7, and 25:59 : six days. But in 41:9-12 the detailed description of the creation procedure adds up to eight days

7.Calling together or ripping apart?
In the process of creation heaven and earth were first apart and are called to come together [41:11]
21:30 states that they were originally one piece and then ripped apart

8.Shooting stars at Demons

9.Bees eat fruits

10. Zulkarnyan physically reaching (not observing) the setting place of sun
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There are no errors in the Quran :)

Lets start with your nr 1.

Explain origin of sperm how the Quran contain an error here.

If you are able to find 1 error in the Quran i will leave Islam.
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Verse 86:7
يخرج من بين الصلب والترائب

Transliteration: Yakhruju min bayni alssulbi waalttara-ibi
Literal: It emerges/appears from between the spine and the rib bones.[2]
Qur'an Text/Transliteration 86:7

Various Translations:
Yusuf Ali: proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs.
Pickthal: that issued from between the loins and ribs.
Arberry: issuing between the loins and the breast-bones.
Shakir: coming from between the back and the ribs.
Sarwar: which comes out of the loins and ribs.
Khalifa: from between the spine and the viscera.
Hilali/Khan: proceeding from between the back-bone and the ribs.
Malik: that is produced from between the loins and the ribs.
QXP: that issued from between tough rocks and mingled dust.
Maulana Ali: coming from between the back and the ribs.
Free Minds: it comes out from between the spine and the testicle

This is clearly a mistake in Koran
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Yos1994 wrote:There are no errors in the Quran :)

Lets start with your nr 1.

Explain origin of sperm how the Quran contain an error here.

If you are able to find 1 error in the Quran i will leave Islam.
OK Yos..........Are you ready to leave Islam?

If you really think your bitchboy allah is right about the origin of sperm, you should be prepared to have your balls surgically removed. Now wouldn't that be the ultimate test of faith??

:roflmao: :tongueout:
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Centaur wrote:Verse 86:7
يخرج من بين الصلب والترائب

Transliteration: Yakhruju min bayni alssulbi waalttara-ibi
Literal: It emerges/appears from between the spine and the rib bones.[2]
Qur'an Text/Transliteration 86:7

Various Translations:
Yusuf Ali: proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs.
Pickthal: that issued from between the loins and ribs.
Arberry: issuing between the loins and the breast-bones.
Shakir: coming from between the back and the ribs.
Sarwar: which comes out of the loins and ribs.
Khalifa: from between the spine and the viscera.
Hilali/Khan: proceeding from between the back-bone and the ribs.
Malik: that is produced from between the loins and the ribs.
QXP: that issued from between tough rocks and mingled dust.
Maulana Ali: coming from between the back and the ribs.
Free Minds: it comes out from between the spine and the testicle

This is clearly a mistake in Koran
Show me where it says sperm?
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Koran 86:6 He is created from a drop emitted
OK Semen though it does not make any difference as its just collection of sperms.
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Yos1994 wrote:..................


Show me where it says sperm?

Tafsir of Al Jalalayn:


For 86-6

the response is: He was created from a gushing fluid, gushing forth from the man and the woman into the womb,

For 86-7

issuing from between the loins, of the man, and the breast-bones, of the woman.

OK. I get it. Your daddy only poured water into your mama? So that still means you don't need your balls.
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haha :prop:
see how this lying pubic hair face answers it


Did he say embryionic age!!

This Mohammedans never stops amazing me.Will they be honest a single day before they die. Not to us at least to themselves
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:lotpot:

OMG, it seems the old faker is not even embarrassed to talk such nonesense. However, in saying, falsely, that at the embryonic "age" the testes are "between the backbone and the ribs", he clearly admits that the passage does indeed refer to actual sexual intercourse.

It seem yos does not want to go there, and instead tries to say it talks about something else, and no doubt he will dismiss any hadith or tafsir that rattle his cage.

Perhaps yos, you could tell us what this is passage is talking about?
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Centaur wrote:haha :prop:
see how this lying pubic hair face answers it


Did he say embryionic age!!

This Mohammedans never stops amazing me.Will they be honest a single day before they die. Not to us at least to themselves
I wonder what makes this guy so "knowledgable"

Is it the beanie cap?
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Yos1994 wrote:
Centaur wrote:Verse 86:7
يخرج من بين الصلب والترائب

Transliteration: Yakhruju min bayni alssulbi waalttara-ibi
Literal: It emerges/appears from between the spine and the rib bones.[2]
Qur'an Text/Transliteration 86:7

Various Translations:
Yusuf Ali: proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs.
Pickthal: that issued from between the loins and ribs.
Arberry: issuing between the loins and the breast-bones.
Shakir: coming from between the back and the ribs.
Sarwar: which comes out of the loins and ribs.
Khalifa: from between the spine and the viscera.
Hilali/Khan: proceeding from between the back-bone and the ribs.
Malik: that is produced from between the loins and the ribs.
QXP: that issued from between tough rocks and mingled dust.
Maulana Ali: coming from between the back and the ribs.
Free Minds: it comes out from between the spine and the testicle

This is clearly a mistake in Koran
Show me where it says sperm?
Amigoes you have already left Islam, you are just arguing for the sake of pride.
You forgot that debate about honey bees, your god does not even know that honey bees diet is flowers not fruits :lol:

Fruits are for you Amigoes, try this mango from my own orchard.
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Going back to sperm, even semen has nothing to do with ribs and back bone.
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@Centaur

86:6 never says sperm.

The word for sperm is Nutfah (23:13, 16:4)

How ever in 86:6 it says ma-in dafiq.

It means the entire fluid of semen.

Now where are all the Semen components Joined?

5% of the semen fluid travels from the.

The semen is complete/full formed between the Bulbourethral Gland and Semina Vesicle.

So it is between the Backbone and the Ribs.

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Now you might say the ribs is to high to say that the prostete(which is in the bibble of Bulbourethral Gland and Semina Vesicle) is between it the backbone.

But that just as saying

Genitales are not between the legs or the head is not between the shoulder.

So now how did Muhammad know this :???: ?
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What is the next "Error" you want me to refute?
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Yos1994 wrote:What is the next "Error" you want me to refute?
You have not even refuted the first one.
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Genitales are not between the legs or the head is not between the shoulder
.
??

An embryo is formed from sperm which including most of the semen is produced by genitals not from between backbone and ribs. Its as simple as that. but Allah/Mohammed got it wrong and do not play your pseudo islamic science here.Its the sperm which is part of semen which decides one can be potent or impotent not any other content of semen.And Mohammed got wrong in his book
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Ridiculous to even mention the ribs as having any significance to semen gushing forth.
You may as well claim semen flows between the shoulder and backbone, its all meaningless.
Every human organ can be claimed to between the backbone and ribs if your absurd claim is accepted.
To claim this is Gods description means the god you believe in is frankly stupid.
Mo copied this from Hippocrates and both were wrong.
Muslims have no interest in the truth, they only care about maintaining their delusion.
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yos

seeing as you are comming out with jokes how about this one yos...................


Adam was hanging around the garden of Eden feeling very lonely. So, God asked him, 'What's wrong with you?' Adam said he didn't have anyone to talk to. God said that He was going to make Adam a companion and that it would be a woman. He said, 'This pretty lady will gather food for you, she will cook for you, and when you discover clothing, she will wash them for you. She will always agree with every decision you make and she will not nag you, and will always be the first to admit she was wrong when you've had a disagreement. She will praise you! She will bear your children and never ask you to get up in the middle of the night to take care of them. She will never have a headache and will freely give you love and passion whenever you need it.' Adam asked God, 'What will a woman like this cost?' 'An arm and a leg.' Then Adam asked, 'What can I get for a rib?’ Of course the rest is history............!!!!



that is passed down to me from my forefathers,so its precious. :*) :roflmao:
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yos, you can't be serious.... :lol:
It means the entire fluid of semen.
That is the first clanger... it does not say that in the text. Also I thought you said it does not say sperm/semen? But anyway...

Now have a close look at the drawing you provided...

The point where all the components of the seminal discharge come together just before ejaculation is marked in the diagram. Where is it? Actually it is rather close to your butt-hole, as the diagram shows.

The spine finishes just ABOVE the butt-hole, and the ribs are much higher up. Go and check, stand in front of a mirror, but make sure you are alone... The point you describe is BELOW both the backbone and the ribs.(the "tail bone" is not part of the spine proper) If I was asked to look for something BETWEEN the backbone and the ribs, it would look inside or close to the chest cavity.



Also, there are some interesting tafsir and hadith about this verse...
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@ring
Yes i have refuted it.

Centaur
An embryo is formed from sperm which including most of the semen is produced by genitals not from between backbone and ribs. Its as simple as that.
Untrue. Semen is not produced by genitals. Sperm is. Thats 2-5% of the Semen. They are mixed all together to the drop that can make the man in the Area close to the prostate. A man ejaculate after a vasectomy cant he? Ofcourse he can. As you can se aftter a vasectomy all connections to the testicle is cut.

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Peter
The point where all the components of the seminal discharge come together just before ejaculation is marked in the diagram. Where is it?
Ive already answered this peter.
The semen is complete/full formed between the Bulbourethral Gland and Semina Vesicle.
The spine finishes just ABOVE the butt-hole, and the ribs are much higher up. Go and check, stand in front of a mirror,
Ive already adressed this issue Peter, its same as saying Genitales are not between the legs or the head is not between the shoulder.
The prostate can be said its between the ribs and the backbone Just like the head is between the shoulders.
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Debates on Islam invariably get pretty disgusting at some point. Can't Muslims just concede this one little error so people can get off the subject? The Quran is full of errors and contradictions but no Muslim will ever accept it. I have never once seen a Muslim on this forum say "okay, I see that you are right. That really is a significant error you showed me". Only people who actually quit Islam ever accept the reality of the Quranic errors. That's because as soon as they accept the errors they HAVE t quit Islam, or live a lie. To stay in Islam you must deny all facts, no matter how dumb it makes you look.

Watch, here are two conflicting suras. Which is true? Yos will still deny that this is an error.
3:55 (Asad) Lo! God said: "O jesus! Verily, I shall cause thee to die, and shall exalt thee unto Me, and cleanse thee of [the presence of] those who are bent on denying the truth; and I shall place those who follow thee [far] above those who are bent on denying the truth, unto the Day of Resurrection. In the end, unto Me you all must return, and I shall judge between you with regard to all on which you were wont to differ.

4:157 (Asad) and their boast, "Behold, we have slain the Christ jesus, son of Mary, [who claimed to be] an apostle of God!" However, they did not slay him, and neither did they crucify him, but it only seemed to them [as if it had been] so; [171] and, verily, those who hold conflict­ing views thereon are indeed confused, having no [real] knowledge thereof, and following mere con­jecture. For, of a certainty, they did not slay him:
They might say that Allah made him die some other way I suppose. But what about this sura which makes no sense?
57:27 (Asad) And thereupon We caused [other of] Our apostles to follow in their footsteps; and [in the course of time] We caused them to be followed by jesus, the son of Mary, upon whom We bestowed the Gospel; [46] and in the hearts of those who [truly] followed him We engendered compassion and mercy. But as for monastic asceticism - [47] We did not enjoin it upon them: they invented it themselves out of a desire for God’s goodly acceptance. [48] But then, they did not [always] observe it as it ought to have been observed: [49] and so We granted their recompense unto such of them as had [truly] attained to faith, whereas many of them became iniquitous. [50
If the humans invented it themselves then how did Allah know if they were doing it right or not? Since they invented it, they can revise it whenever they want.
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