Al-Buraq

[Fernando]

That the Buraq looks like a Hindu god is just some the Muslims in India made up. No hadith says this, the quran doesnt even say he flew on something at all.
The Hindus probably wanted to keep some of their ancient culture so they made drawing of Muhammad and that animal with a human face.

So stories of buraqs are made up and not to be believed. Does that mean that people who believe in them are not Muslims but idolaters?

[Ghaith]

No Fern it doesnt mean that.

That would be same as saying Christians that go to churce are idolaters, because of the Jesus idol. No body knew how Jesus looked, was based on Cesare Borgia. Second they dont worship the Buraq.

[Fernando]

No Fern it doesnt mean that.

That would be same as saying Christians that go to churce are idolaters, because of the Jesus idol. No body knew how Jesus looked, was based on Cesare Borgia. Second they dont worship the Buraq.

Ah, I see. So Muslims can believe in supernatural things but as long as they don't worship them, that's ok. So no problem with buraq, djinn, angels or demonic spirits - all are compatible with Islam.
So I take it that it's ok for Muslims to believe, likewise, in Al-Lat and Al-‘Uzzá
and Manāt. That they consider these goddesses to exist is fine, just so long as they're not workshipped. Right?

[Ghaith]

No Fern it doesnt mean that.

That would be same as saying Christians that go to churce are idolaters, because of the Jesus idol. No body knew how Jesus looked, was based on Cesare Borgia. Second they dont worship the Buraq.

Ah, I see. So Muslims can believe in supernatural things but as long as they don't worship them, that's ok. So no problem with buraq, djinn, angels or demonic spirits - all are compatible with Islam.
So I take it that it's ok for Muslims to believe, likewise, in Al-Lat and Al-‘Uzzá
and Manāt. That they consider these goddesses to exist is fine, just so long as they're not workshipped. Right?

Jinn is demon, Christians also belivine in them.


The woman was a Greek, born in Syrian Phoenicia. She begged Jesus to drive the demon out of her daughter.Mark 7:26

La illah ila allah.
There is no god but allah.

So you dont recognise nor worship other gods just like in Judaism(dont bother to mention the golden calf).

That doesnt change the fact that Jews also belive in super natural things. Like a talking donkey.
Then the LORD opened the donkey's mouth, and she said to Balaam, "What have I done to you to make you beat me these three times?" Numbers 22:28

How ever Jinns, Jesus making clay into birds and other like that Muslims do belive in.

Hope that answers your question

[marduk]

See that's what happens when you force Hindus to become Muslims, they stick a bunch of Hindu stuff in with the Arab lunacy stuff. They also ignore the rule about not depicting M-d, because they are so accustomed to depicting all those gods they had before. Can't really just stop all that art industry. So now you have paintings of M-d riding on Kamdhenu and actually showing her recognizable face AND M-d's face.

Islam is now corrupted from letting Hindus and other non-Arabs in. Sure, you can say that there are lots of Muslims now, but 85% of them aren't Arab and have no problem at all with corrupting Islam to be more inclusive of their own favorite things, like flying cows with human faces. It's like what Muhammad did, he took Judaism and corrupted it to include things Arab pagans didn't want to give up. Well, the Indians did the same with Islam.

Speaking of the Kaaba being a Hindu shrine, Allah's name actually comes from the Hindus. The fact that Arab Jews also called God Allah doesn't help because they were simply using the accepted word of that region. They learned it from the Arabs who learned it from the Hindus. Or the Jews may habe learned it from the Hindus directly, since "Allah" was used in chants to the goddess Durga since 2500 BC.

It might come as a stunning revelation to many that the word 'ALLAH' itself is Sanskrit. In Sanskrit language Allah, Akka and Amba are synonyms. They signify a goddess or mother. The term 'ALLAH' forms part of Sanskrit chants invoking goddess Durga, also known as Bhavani, Chandi and Mahishasurmardini. The Islamic word for God is., therefore, not an innovation but the ancient Sanskrit appellation retained and continued by Islam. Allah means mother or goddess and mother goddess.
http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/spir ... mecca.html

[Connedbymo+co]

Hello deluded Yoshi, according to the Koran everything can speak. The Koran is full of this nonsense, for example according to the Koran the heaven and earth can speak:

041.011
SHAKIR: Then He directed Himself to the heaven and it is a vapor, so He said to it and to the earth: Come both, willingly or unwillingly. They both said: We come willingly.

Can you please explain this miracle!

Another absurdity is that the Koran says the heaven, earth and mountains are conscious(intelligent) and have emotion:

SHAKIR: Surely We offered the trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they refused to be unfaithful to it and feared from it, and man has turned unfaithful to it; surely he is unjust, ignorant;

So as you can see the Koran is full of crap with7th century nonsense. Only a deluded fool would believe otherwise.
If you don't believe me ask your physicist teacher.

[paxi christi]

marduk

did you aso know that the half moon(cresent)and star

is a symbol for the godess diana.a moon godess.

so is islam being lead by a woman?

[Ghaith]

Islam is now corrupted from letting Hindus and other non-Arabs in.

"Allah" is the same word used by Christian and Jewish Arabs in the Bible, before Islam came.

On page one of Genesis in the Old Testament, we find the word "Allah" seventeen times.

How about that

Ever seen the passion of christ Marduk?.



He says ALLAH.

The Aramaic "Elaw" and the Arabic "Allah" are the same. The Aramaic "Elaw" is derived from the Arabic "Allah", and it means "GOD". "Allah" in Arabic also means "GOD", the Supreme GOD Almighty. You can easily see the close similarity in their pronunciation.

http://www.answering-christianity.com/a ... w_ilah.htm


Silly Marduk, Satan worshiping band.

[Ghaith]

Hello deluded Yoshi, according to the Koran everything can speak. The Koran is full of this nonsense, for example according to the Koran the heaven and earth can speak:

041.011
SHAKIR: Then He directed Himself to the heaven and it is a vapor, so He said to it and to the earth: Come both, willingly or unwillingly. They both said: We come willingly.

Can you please explain this miracle!

Another absurdity is that the Koran says the heaven, earth and mountains are conscious(intelligent) and have emotion:

SHAKIR: Surely We offered the trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they refused to be unfaithful to it and feared from it, and man has turned unfaithful to it; surely he is unjust, ignorant;

So as you can see the Koran is full of crap with7th century nonsense. Only a deluded fool would believe otherwise.
If you don't believe me ask your physicist teacher.

Come back when you are more mature and ready to debate like an adult.

[Ghaith]

marduk

did you aso know that the half moon(cresent)and star

is a symbol for the godess diana.a moon godess.

so is islam being lead by a woman?

[paxi christi]

Ghaith

on the ants talking ,

every single animal/mamal/bird/reptile talk/communicate with each other from the time blip.

so point out to me why its a mirical ?

[Ghaith]

marduk

did you aso know that the half moon(cresent)and star

is a symbol for the godess diana.a moon godess.

so is islam being lead by a woman?

Also paxi i do count you know who marduk is right before you get all cozy and warm with you new best friend.







Shouldnt play with people that insults your saviour.

[Connedbymo+co]

Come back when you are more mature and ready to debate like an adult.

Whats the matter you can't explain the nonsense in your pathetic book you claim is from God?

Again everything can talk in your silly book:

Hello deluded Yoshi, according to the Koran everything can speak. The Koran is full of this nonsense, for example according to the Koran the heaven and earth can speak:

041.011
SHAKIR: Then He directed Himself to the heaven and it is a vapor, so He said to it and to the earth: Come both, willingly or unwillingly. They both said: We come willingly.

Can you please explain this miracle!

Another absurdity is that the Koran says the heaven, earth and mountains are conscious(intelligent) and have emotion:

SHAKIR: Surely We offered the trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they refused to be unfaithful to it and feared from it, and man has turned unfaithful to it; surely he is unjust, ignorant;

So as you can see the Koran is full of crap with7th century nonsense. Only a deluded fool would believe otherwise.
If you don't believe me ask your physicist teacher.

You have no explanation for the above but you will ignore it because you are DELUDED!!

[Ghaith]

Ghaith

on the ants talking ,

every single animal/mamal/bird/reptile talk/communicate with each other from the time blip.

so point out to me why its a mirical ?

Untrue, islam was attacked on this bases that it is an Errors because ants communicating was unknown before 2009.
Once your grow older you will learn more about animal communication in school. Unless you attended school but sleept during classes?

The miracle is that ant communication by talking. Few animals communicate by talking. Some do it by Facial expression (Dogs for example) other by gazing (tortoises for example)

You can use the education instead of looking stupid while communicating.
Here you go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_communication#Forms_of_communication

[Ghaith]

You have no explanation for the above but you will ignore it because you are DELUDED!!

I will ignore it because you are garbage.

[paxi christi]

Ghaith

The miracle is that ant communication by talking. Few animals communicate by talking. Some do it by Facial expression (Dogs for example) other by gazing (tortoises for example)

last time i heard a dog communicate it was barking.
not pulling faces at another one.

you should go to school and learn proper stuff.

not reciting all the quaran 100 times before breakfast.then the same again till dinner.

and you have the front to call people thick or not grown up with the doggy answer??pmsl.

here shep,come on boy.

[Connedbymo+co]

You have no explanation for the above but you will ignore it because you are DELUDED!!

I will ignore it because you are garbage.

HAHAHA!!

The Koran is GARBAGE the heaven and earth CANNOT talk neither do the the mountains feel any emotion let alone have intelligence Put your head in the sand Yoshi and fool yourself beause you can't handle the truth.
You are a perfect example of what Islam does to your ability to think rationally, go tell your physicist teacher the mountains feel fear and the earth can speak and watch her reaction!!

[Ghaith]

Ghaith

last time i heard a dog communicate it was barking.

Barking is a part of their communication not their main communication. Have you ever seen 2 dogs sitting stil barking to each other?

Here is an exampel of how dogs communicate

Dogs bark for many reasons, such as when perceived intruders (humans, dogs, or other animals unknown to them) approach their living space, when hearing an unfamiliar or unidentified noise, when seeing something that the dog doesn't expect to be there, or when playing. Barking also expresses different emotions for a dog, such as loneliness, fear, suspicion, stress, and pleasure. Playful or excited barks are often short and sharp, such as when a dog is attempting to get a person or another dog to play.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_communication#Barks
Unlike the ants have a form of language they speak, like us humans

[paxi christi]

is this what the koran or islam does to you Ghaith?

ill put you in my prayers this sunday.ill light a candle for you.

[marduk]

Here's how Islam got its name, "submission", from the Hindu myth of Lord Vamana, a form of Vishnu. Mecca was one of three places where the footprints of Vishnu were located and revered by pilgrims. The Muslims actually still have one of the footprints to prove it. Nice of them to keep that around. My guess is that the 3 footprint locations represent the 3 paces taken by Vishnu as Vamana.

The Kaba temple which was misappropriated and captured by Muslims was
originally an International Vedic Shrine. The ancient Vedic scripture
Harihareswar Mahatmya mentions that Lord Vishnu's footprints are
consecrated in Mecca. An important clue to this fact is that Muslims
call this holy precint Haram which is a deviation of the Sanskrit term
Hariyam, i.e. the precint of Lord Hari alias Lord Vishnu. The relevant
stanza reads:

"Ekam Padam Gayayantu
MAKKAYAANTU Dwitiyakam
Tritiyam Sthapitam
Divyam Muktyai Shuklasya Sannidhau"


The allusion is to the Vamana incarnation of Lord Vishnu whose blessed
feet were consecrated at three holy sites, namely Gaya, Mecca and
Shukla Teertha. Worshipping such carved, holy foot impressions is a
holy Vedic custom which convert Muslims are inadvertently
perpetuating. But in doing this they delude themselves and mislead
others that these foot-impressions which are on reverential display in
several mosques and tombs around the world are in fact Muhammad's own.
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive ... 00003.html

Here's the "submission" part.

According to the myth, there was once a haughty king and vishnu assumed the form od dwarf or Vamana to teach him a lesson. He requested the proud (hence foolish) king for just so much land as he could cover with three strides. The king granted the request and vishnu took one step and covered the earth, with the second step he strode across the heavens and had nowhere to place his third step. The despotic king realized his mistake, begged forgiveness and requested vishnu - Vamana to place his third step on his head as a mark of his submission to god. Vamana Temple is dedicated to the dwarf incarnation of Vishnu.
http://www.khajuraho-india.org/vamana-t ... uraho.html

At the Kaaba "Allah" was the chief god of 360. This is just like Vamana being honored by all the other gods thus showing him to be the supreme god of them all. Allah is simply Vamana disguised as YHWH.

all other gods are meant to offer homage to Him. They did this when, appearing as a young child, he was awarded the sacred thread by Brihaspati, the guru of the gods. The sun god gave Him the Gayatri mantra and His father, Kasyapa Muni, a straw belt. Mother Earth gave Him a deerskin and Lord Brahma gave Him a waterpot. Kuvera, the heavenly treasurer gave Him a monk’s begging bowl, and the wife of Lord Shiva gave Him the first alms. In this way, the gods all offered the best of what they had to the Supreme God.
http://deshika.wordpress.com/2009/08/31 ... 0-lessons/

So, we have only two places where submission to a supreme god is a central tenet, Islam and Vamana worship. Why did the god of Abraham suddenly decide to start imitating Vamana and actually name a religion after it?