Quran and Book of Mormon

[marduk]

The Book of Mormon is rather similar to the Quran. Both are believed by their followers to have been revealed to mankind by a single person with no actual evidence backing up his story whatsoever. As this link mentions http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=t ... dS1TOepF6Q the BoM contains tell-tale clues that it was written in the time of the person who claimed to have received it by supernatural means, for instance exact word for word transcription from the 1611 version of the King James Bible of 1 Corinthians 33 and Isaiah 13, including the italicized words which were comments by the translators who made that version of the Bible. THAT, is how dumb the Book of Mormon is and the only difference with the Quran is that it doesn't copy other recent works word for word but always slightly different. That shows that Muhammad was more devious than Joseph Smith but still not smart enough not to use that material at all. More about the BoM and the KJ Bible here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_o ... ames_Bible

In conclusion, both the Book of Mormon and the Quran are so easy to prove false that the large number of followers of both books is more indicative of the low average intelligence of mankind than of the existence of the god of Abraham and his purported son. The mere fact that those books were allowed to exist in the world proves that the God of Abraham does NOT exist, because he would surely have done something by now about people going around pretending to speak for him and making books and saying that he authored them. If that god existed he would have caused Muhammad's mother to miscarry that demon-spawn who was growing inside her, same with Joseph Smith. Here's the BoM, here's the 1611 KJ Bible. Here's the Quran, here's the Infancy Gospel of Thomas with the clay birds story and the Mishnah Genesis with the Abraham in the idol shop story. Why can't Mormons and Muslims put 2 and 2 together? Seems easy enough to me. They must be under some kind of evil mind control or something, preventing them from solving the easiest cases of fraud ever committed.

[Idesigner]

Mormonism the faith of Mitt Romney and others ( some Demos are Mormon too) is fastest growing religion in US and world. Islam is second.

All Mormons know that their faith is pretty goofy on all accounts.. Still they all will tell you that its true christian faith.

Joe Smith was as bad as Mohemmed often marrying already married women as long as they were young and goddesses from Scandinavian countries.He used to attack journalists and burned down printing press. I dont know if he married free black slave woman or native indian woman. If he was born in some anarchist continent without big guns of Uncle Sam he would have been made a great prophet of the world and some place in Illinois would have become Mecca of stupid white folks.

[marduk]

Smith was killed trying to break out of jail. Smith shot and killed a person during the escape attempt. So much for the Golden Rule. He got sent there for selling magic charms and amulets and being a conman, which as far as I know is not condoned by God OR God Jr, Jesus.

Pretty embarrassing for Islam that Mormonism is the fastest growing religion. I thought they said Islam was. What that shows is that people aren't joining religions much at all anymore, so even the ones joining bizarre cults make their "religions" appear to be fast growing. It's not that they are so fast growing but that other religions are so slow growing, because people have just lost interest in doing weird rituals with no actual payoff whatsoever. Islam and Mormons should get together and form the Cult of the Murdering Prophets.

[Idesigner]

Smith was killed trying to break out of jail. Smith shot and killed a person during the escape attempt. So much for the Golden Rule. He got sent there for selling magic charms and amulets and being a conman, which as far as I know is not condoned by God OR Jesus Jr.

Pretty embarrassing for Islam that Mormonism is the fastest growing religion. I thought they said Islam was. What that shows is that people aren't joining religions much at all anymore, so even the ones joining bizarre cults make their "religions" appear to be fast growing. It's not that they are so fast growing but that other religions are so slow growing, because people have just lost interest in doing weird rituals with no actual payoff whatsoever. Islam and Mormons should get together and form the Cult of the Murdering Prophets.

Joe Smith was also charged with burning a printng press who used to publish balsphamous material against this brand new messanger of god.

[marduk]

Very destructive guy.

[Ozes]

Smith was a revolver toting cowboy so i forgive him

[Idesigner]

Smith was a revolver toting cowboy so i forgive him

He had revolver while Mohemmed had sword, spears and arrows.

Smith emulated Mohemmed. No drinking and lots of women. Ofcourse Mo used to screw all races where as my white prophet screwed white women only. Mo was equal opprtunity employe. So Piss be upon him and pig sh!t on Smith.

[Jimi]

All praise to Allah

Yes a basic understand of Islam and the Mormons does show similarity with both books and religions. The way the Quran and BoM were revealed very similarly, Poligamy, blood killing for crimes, and general fairy tails surrounding it.

When I lived in Indonesia some of the Muslims asked Q about it.

Remember Jimi knkws Islam mashallah

[farside]

Those crazy final prophets come and go. You can find a list of them here (including Joseph Smith):
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Farsideology: ... l_Prophets

Enjoy!
Farside

[ringmaster]

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Joe Smith was as bad as Mohemmed often marrying already married women as long as they were young and goddesses from Scandinavian countries.He used to attack journalists and burned down printing press. I dont know if he married free black slave woman or native indian woman. If he was born in some anarchist continent without big guns of Uncle Sam he would have been made a great prophet of the world and some place in Illinois would have become Mecca of stupid white folks.

Joe Smith was a charlatan who should have been locked up and exiled. He was probably even a murderer, but he was still not as bad as the prophet because he was not a mass murderer.. Also, Mormons, however stupid they are, are not mass murderers. Muslims have been mass murderers. Ask the Hindus.

[Idesigner]

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Joe Smith was as bad as Mohemmed often marrying already married women as long as they were young and goddesses from Scandinavian countries.He used to attack journalists and burned down printing press. I dont know if he married free black slave woman or native indian woman. If he was born in some anarchist continent without big guns of Uncle Sam he would have been made a great prophet of the world and some place in Illinois would have become Mecca of stupid white folks.

Joe Smith was a charlatan who should have been locked up and exiled. He was probably even a murderer, but he was still not as bad as the prophet because he was not a mass murderer.. Also, Mormons, however stupid they are, are not mass murderers. Muslims have been mass murderers. Ask the Hindus.

Hello R.M. Where do you live now? Still in Alberta ?

Joe Smith was not Mohemmed and present day tie and suit wearing clean cut mormons are not muslims.

My point was Joe Smith cant emulate Mohemmed and Mormons didnt turn out to be as fanatic as muslims because the faith was born in a strong federalist USA. Their rebellion was crushed by direct action of US army. They did try their best to declare Utah as independent territory with all trappings of theocratic soverign country. The rank and file mormon of mid 19th century did dress and behave ( beard and long robs) like Jew Prophets of OT time. Lots of polygamy and some killings of defactors. Strong action by US made them all monogamous , clean cut, tie suit wearing US citizens.Still some breakaway mormon rebel prophets behave like Mohemmed.

Later even Charley Manson ,Jim Jones and David Koresh also tried to become like Mohemmed. They all failed.

Lets see if Mormon becomes first US president this tuesday.

[ringmaster]

Hello R.M. Where do you live now? Still in Alberta ?

Joe Smith was not Mohemmed and present day tie and suit wearing clean cut mormons are not muslims.

My point was Joe Smith cant emulate Mohemmed and Mormons didnt turn out to be as fanatic as muslims because the faith was born in a strong federalist USA. Their rebellion was crushed by direct action of US army. They did try their best to declare Utah as independent territory with all trappings of theocratic soverign country. The rank and file mormon of mid 19th century did dress and behave ( beard and long robs) like Jew Prophets of OT time. Lots of polygamy and some killings of defactors. Strong action by US made them all monogamous , clean cut, tie suit wearing US citizens.Still some breakaway mormon rebel prophets behave like Mohemmed.

Later even Charley Manson ,Jim Jones and David Koresh also tried to become like Mohemmed. They all failed.

Lets see if Mormon becomes first US president this tuesday.

I am back in Colombia. Alberta is too bloody cold right now.

I understand your points about Mormons and their history in the 19th century. I have never liked or trusted them. A line i remember hearing in Alberta was:

"What is the world´s shortest book?"

Answer: "A study of Mormon business ethics"

It is true that they are a cult and have in the past committed murder to discourage people from leaving. I know about some horribly unethical business deals done by the Mormon Church in Utah. They can also be extremely difficult people to do any business at all with. They prefer to deal with members of their own group.

Having said that, I would rather have them around than muslims. That doesn´t mean I want anything to do with them. It merely means that given the choice, I prefer their company to that of muslims. Being clean cut, they at least ike to promote a good image. Muslims don´t give a damn. Mormons just want our money. Muslims want our money and want us dead to boot.

I am not American, but given a choice tomorrow, I would vote for Romney. Speaking as a Canadian pensioner, Romney is a better choice for me. He would do more to protect the integrity (what´s left of it) of the US dollar, thereby making my pension and my winters in Colombia more enjoyable. Obama seems bent on destroying the US dollar.

Romney is Mormon. Obama is muslim. I have made my stance clear, even though I have no say in the matter in any ballot box.

[Idesigner]

Dear R.M.,

Nice to know that you are in sunny colombia. I will go on vacation to warmer clime once I am fed up with Alberta winter.

For Alberta oil patch many here think Romney will be better as he will support the pipe line.They all use rightnlanguage to win election.However pipe line construction is mostly state matter and now only Nebraska insists on changing the route.Romneys free market philosophy may help Wall street and can uplift stock market .Well that will be good time for me to get out of my portfolio.

US and Cdn dollar is now on par or Cdn bit higher for a long time. In international market US dollar is very strong and that is actually hurting their economy. Some devaluation of dollar or rising of other currencies might help US exports. US dollar is pretty strong since Obama took over.whoever wins dollar will remain strong as long as they keep on borrowing from china and can avoid that deficit cliff of January ( again by borrowing) for time being. Who ever in power will try some interim measures and try to postpone inevitable route of bankrupcy , unemployment, devaluation of dollar etc.

Rightnow I am more worried about tthat fiscal cliff which can hurt Canada lot more by driving value of all our stocks, mutual funds etc. Romney is in no mood to balance books either. Repos dont want to bite bullet by raising taxes, cutting defence spending etc. Even that is not enough to solve fiscal crisis. . Their motto is screw deficit, spend on defense as much as their defense cotractor master's wants them to.

On other hand I find Repos pretty arrogant when they deal with canada. Guess drunk with American patriotism.Remeber that US Whop ambassador who was pretty abrassive with canada. They always blame us for supporting and being soft on terrorism where as they have open border at south and they are cozy with their Arab oil barons.

[ringmaster]

Nice to know that you are in sunny colombia. I will go on vacation to warmer clime once I am fed up with Alberta winter.

Yup. And the coffee is fresh and strong each morning.

For Alberta oil patch many here think Romney will be better as he will support the pipe line.They all use rightnlanguage to win election.However pipe line construction is mostly state matter and now only Nebraska insists on changing the route.Romneys free market philosophy may help Wall street and can uplift stock market .Well that will be good time for me to get out of my portfolio.

For me, Romney is the lesser of two evils. But that is academic now, because Obama has been re-elected.

I studied the electoral map last night and I think I understand the American political landscape a bit better. Romney, by a fairly wide margin, won geographically. If you look at the county maps, Romney won most of the counties nationwide. A good example is Pennsylvania. Romney won a large majority of the counties, but lost by a lopsided margin in the heavily populated counties with large black populations.

I think that explains the Republican control of the House, as each state is divided up into congressional districts. The Republicans won most districts, but lost in the overall popular vote.

I forecast a movement to allow Obama to run for a third term.

As for your portfolio, I think history shows that over the long-term you are better off owning good dividend payers, because dividends receive such favorable tax treatment in Canada. Make sure you own companies that earn more than they pay out in dividends and that have a history of raising them consistently. If the stocks go down in value, that is an opportunity to increase your income. That’s the way I manage my retirement. I live on dividends, and each month set aside some income to buy a few more shares.

US and Cdn dollar is now on par or Cdn bit higher for a long time. In international market US dollar is very strong and that is actually hurting their economy. Some devaluation of dollar or rising of other currencies might help US exports. US dollar is pretty strong since Obama took over.whoever wins dollar will remain strong as long as they keep on borrowing from china and can avoid that deficit cliff of January ( again by borrowing) for time being. Who ever in power will try some interim measures and try to postpone inevitable route of bankrupcy , unemployment, devaluation of dollar etc.

I think the “strength” of the dollar is misleading. The Euro and the Dollar are in a race to the bottom. The Euro is winning.

Rightnow I am more worried about tthat fiscal cliff which can hurt Canada lot more by driving value of all our stocks, mutual funds etc. Romney is in no mood to balance books either. Repos dont want to bite bullet by raising taxes, cutting defence spending etc. Even that is not enough to solve fiscal crisis. . Their motto is screw deficit, spend on defense as much as their defense cotractor master's wants them to.

I am more worried about Canada trying to live another Trudeau fantasy. There is talk of his son (Justin Trudeau) leading the Liberals. If he is elected and follows the same policies as his old man, we are looking at a fiscal cliff too.

On other hand I find Repos pretty arrogant when they deal with canada. Guess drunk with American patriotism.Remeber that US Whop ambassador who was pretty abrassive with canada. They always blame us for supporting and being soft on terrorism where as they have open border at south and they are cozy with their Arab oil barons.

Well remember. The Americans are in a horrible mess. When any country is in a mess, they tend to look inward.

I really don’t give a rat’s ass about them. They have made their bed and they can sleep in it. Same with Europe. The only ray of hope the Americans have is Republican control of the House. They are the only hope they have in reigning in their reckless spending. That, and maybe the market place itself.

[AhmedBahgat]

Marduk, it seems you are a moron because you don't understand the difference between belief and fact

[ygalg]

Marduk, it seems you are a moron because you don't understand the difference between belief and fact

The Pot Calling The Kettle Black.

if all people inherit the aptitude to distinguish between what is real and a fallacy possibility there would not be religions to worship nor men to revered.

[AhmedBahgat]

Again, only the esteemed friend are the ones who do not know that belief is the not a fact

This means whatever the people believe in, this does not mean what they believe in is a fact, in fact it is not a fact but a belief

Bloody idiots

[ringmaster]

Again, only the esteemed friend are the ones who do not know that belief is the not a fact

This means whatever the people believe in, this does not mean what they believe in is a fact, in fact it is not a fact but a belief

Bloody idiots

Which means that all muslims are idiots.