Muhammad is indeed mentioned in the bible!!!

[Ghaith]

you've got it, genius.

Numbers 22:28 is more likly to have happend than the holocaust

[ygalg]

that's your line of thinking, not mine.

[Ghaith]

that's your line of thinking, not mine.

You failed math as a child ygalg? Surly you understand that 6 millions jews cannot get gassed/burnt to death in 5 years. If Germany was going to waste time Gassing and burning 3288 jews daily and than getting rid of the gassed bodies. Germany would have fallen a lot faster, not forgeting the time they use to find the jews. That a nice fairy tale.

[ringmaster]

.....What is priceless is 6 million jews being gassed during ww2.
Sounds very logical to me.
It would have taken 60 years to do so but i guess this also was a miracle or what Ygalg?

You really underestimate the Germans. Furthermore, not all of the Jews died by gassing.

It might have taken the Arabs 60 years to complete the job, but then the Arabs are so stupid they cannot do anything efficiently, not even evil things. Arabs can't even take oil out of the ground without help of the Kuffar.

In WW2, more than 20 million Russians died. Before the war, Stalin killed at least that many of his own people, and it wasn't even war time. So did Mao.

[Ghaith]

.....What is priceless is 6 million jews being gassed during ww2.
Sounds very logical to me.
It would have taken 60 years to do so but i guess this also was a miracle or what Ygalg?

You really underestimate the Germans. Furthermore, not all of the Jews died by gassing.

It might have taken the Arabs 60 years to complete the job, but then the Arabs are so stupid they cannot do anything efficiently, not even evil things. Arabs can't even take oil out of the ground without help of the Kuffar.

In WW2, more than 20 million Russians died. Before the war, Stalin killed at least that many of his own people, and it wasn't even war time. So did Mao.

Understimating the Germans? You are saying it is possible to kill 6 million "jews" in 5 years. Stalin killed Russians not jews. And not by gassing them.

To kill 6 million jews in 5 years it would be 3288 jew killed daily.
And to top it all Germany lost the war because of lack of soldiers. Surly the Soldiers that was going to kill 3288 jews daily could have been to great help in the front and not forgeting all the gass that been wasted on them.


Feeding the jews, gassing/burning in the oven them and getting rid of 3288 bodies/ashess daily.Not forgeting the time it would take to find jews as they dont have a big mark on their forehead saying "JEW".
Yes i must not

[ringmaster]

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............Understimating the Germans? You are saying it is possible to kill 6 million "jews" in 5 years. Stalin killed Russians not jews. And not by gassing them.

To kill 6 million jews in 5 years it would be 3288 jew killed daily.
And to top it all Germany lost the war because of lack of soldiers. Surly the Soldiers that was going to kill 3288 jews daily could have been to great help in the front and not forgeting all the gass that been wasted on them.


Feeding the jews, gassing/burning in the oven them and getting rid of 3288 bodies/ashess daily.Not forgeting the time it would take to find jews as they dont have a big mark on their forehead saying "JEW".
Yes i must not

Hitler's minions killed Jews in many ways, and not just by gassing them. Another method of killing Jews was by the use of Einsatzgruppen. That was not from gassing. They were just shot and thrown into open pits and buried.

In Babi Yar, more than 33,000 died in 2 days. Germans were, and still are (unlike Arabs, who are too stupid to organize anything on a large scale.................for good or evil), meticulous record keepers.

Finding Jews was easy for Germans. Jews were easy to identify. It's easy to identify Jewish names in Europe.

Furthermore, Jews circumcize their cocks just like muslims do. Don't forget that. That makes you easy to identify too.

[Ghaith]

In Babi Yar, more than 33,000 died in 2 days. Germans were, and still are (unlike Arabs, who are too stupid to organize anything on a large scale.................for good or evil), meticulous record keepers.

One event of many jews doesnt make it more likly that 6 million where killed. The next day none or very few might have been killed.
Stupid arabs? The same stupid arabs that conquered annexed Levant, Mesopotamia and North African and won the Crusades?

Hitler's minions killed Jews in many ways, and not just by gassing them. Another method of killing Jews was by the use of Einsatzgruppen. That was not from gassing. They were just shot and thrown into open pits and buried.

Most where "gassed" very few where shot compared to those who wher gassed. That what makes this fairy tale so false. They would have used 1/10 time, money soldier if they just shot them and buried them instead of what acctualy happend.And could have used the men in the camps into the war. That doesnt sound like the same Germany that almost conquered Europe.

The holocaust happend to a certain point. Around 100 000-1 000 000 death couldnt top that.

Finding Jews was easy for Germans. Jews were easy to identify. It's easy to identify Jewish names in Europe.

Yeah the jews went to the Nazis and told them their name instead of hiding.
Identifieng Jews in Germany might no have been a challenge but in other countries such as Norway Danmark France Soviet Union and so on wouldnt have been easy, and would have taken time.


Still you are ignoring that after 1941 Germany had busy hands, with the Soviet invasion And Usa going to war against the axis.

The killing was most offensive between 1939-1941.
And in Germany around what 1934, 1935?
There was 500,000 jews in Germany 300 000 emigrated. Some where Nazis in the army, some survived Most that could have been killed of this wouldnt be more than Half about 150 000

So not many where killed pre war if thats an counter argument you had stored.

Here another fact
The jewish population in the world between 1941 and 1948. So, this being the case, where did the 6,000,000 dead go?

David Irving was sent to jail for exposing the holocaust. This shows you how hard the Zionist are trying to compress the truth.

The holocaust is nothing more than an Zionist myth. Used to controll the world.

[ringmaster]

One event of many jews doesnt make it more likly that 6 million where killed. The next day none or very few might have been killed.

With the Einsatzgruppen, there were many more than just that singular event. That was merely one of the more notable.

Stupid arabs? The same stupid arabs that conquered annexed Levant, Mesopotamia and North African and won the Crusades?

The same stupid Arabs who have gotten their asses kicked by numerically fewer Jews.

The same stupid Arabs who need Kufars to do most of their essential services today.

The same stupid Arabs who for centuries burned fresh camel turds for cooking when they were sitting on all that oil and gas. They needed the kufar to figure that one out too.

Most where "gassed" very few where shot compared to those who wher gassed. That what makes this fairy tale so false. They would have used 1/10 time, money soldier if they just shot them and buried them instead of what acctualy happend.And could have used the men in the camps into the war. That doesnt sound like the same Germany that almost conquered Europe.

The holocaust happend to a certain point. Around 100 000-1 000 000 death couldnt top that.

Hogwash. The Einsatzgruppen murdered at least a million on their own. That does not include those who were deliberately starved, who died in transit, who died in specially constructed vans (to die on CO asphyxiation), etc. etc. etc.. Good grief, millions of Russian prisoners died of starvation. Jews can starve just as easily as a Russian. Even Allied prisoners, who by comparison, were well treated by the Germans, suffered food shortages. If it were not for Red Cross parcels, hundreds of thousands of Allied prisoners would have starved too.

Then there were the gassing victims.

You are living in a clouded cuckoo land. But then, you are muslim.

Yeah the jews went to the Nazis and told them their name instead of hiding.
Identifieng Jews in Germany might no have been a challenge but in other countries such as Norway Danmark France Soviet Union and so on wouldnt have been easy, and would have taken time.

The conquered countries had plenty of collaborators who helped the Germans. Finding Jews was not difficult for the Germans.

Still you are ignoring that after 1941 Germany had busy hands, with the Soviet invasion And Usa going to war against the axis.

The killing was most offensive between 1939-1941.
And in Germany around what 1934, 1935?

You have it all backwards. The Wannsee Conference didn’t even take place until after America entered the war. The killing was actually most offensive in the latter part of the war when Germany was losing. Hitler’s minions wanted to arrive at the “Endloesung” before the Allies and Russians defeated them.

The other thing you have backwards was that Germany really had the upper hand in the war until the Allies landed in June 1944, and even that was a close run thing. When the Allies landed, Germany still occupied much of the western Soviet Union. If the Allied landings failed, our history books would be different now.

Good grief…it wasn’t even until the latter part of 1943 that the Allies had sufficient control of the sea lanes that they could bring the necessary supplies and men to the UK to mount the invasion. In fact, according to Liddell Hart (one of the foremost WW2 historians), the Allies came closer to losing the war in March 1943 than they did in June & September 1940. Germany came within a whisker of starving Britain out with the U Boats.

If you want argue more WW2 history with me, go ahead. I know it very well. You would be way out of your league. But, then, you are muslim.

There was 500,000 jews in Germany 300 000 emigrated. Some where Nazis in the army, some survived Most that could have been killed of this wouldnt be more than Half about 150 000

So not many where killed pre war if thats an counter argument you had stored.

You have it backwards again. Actually, as bad as it was for German Jews inside Germany, they had a better chance of survival than Jews in the conquered territories.

Here another fact
The jewish population in the world between 1941 and 1948. So, this being the case, where did the 6,000,000 dead go?

The math is simple. There were about 9,000,000 Jews in Europe when the war began. There were about 3 million when the war ended.

The holocaust is nothing more than an Zionist myth. Used to controll the world.

If the Jews control the world, just exactly what is your whoremaster allah doing about it? You believe, as a muslim, that everything that happens is the will of whoremaster pimp allah.

[Ghaith]

The german taskfore killing over 1 million, im starting to wonder what kind of zionist sources you are using

The same stupid Arabs who have gotten their asses kicked by numerically fewer Jews.

They lost the six days war that is right but it was thanks to the Soviet Union and Usa. Stupid Soviets not stupid Arabs.
Egypt won the Ramadan war/yum kippur war. Pre-1973 Israel was looked up on as being "invisible" independent of Us support and that it had destroyed the arabs and that they where going to restore the great Israel..

Sadly after losing the Yum kippur war this dreams went down the drain for Israel 1973 Israel was looked up on as a terrorist state thanks to their stupid invasion of Lebanon.
Also last time i cheaked Israel lost a war to a bunch men with ak47 with rpg in 2006. Hizbollah. You se Israel was used to kids with rocks when they got Real men with ak47 it was to much for them.

You have it backwards again. Actually, as bad as it was for German Jews inside Germany, they had a better chance of survival than Jews in the conquered territories.

Did i ?

Jewish Population in Germany, 1871-1944.

Year Jewish population

1871 512,158

1880 562,612

1890 567,884

1900 586,833

1910 615,021

1925 564,379

1933 503,0001

1939 234,0002

1941 164,000

1942 51,000

1943 31,910

1944 14,574

Table from the Encyclopedia Judaica,

Now to the migration part.

300 000 Germans migrated from during late 30s and early 40s

Between 1933 and 1939, more than 300,000 Germans, perhaps 90 percent of them Jews, had applied for immigration visas to the United States, and by 1940 about 90,000 German Jews had found sanctuary in America.

Around 90 000 went to Usa

http://www.ushmm.org/museum/exhibit/onl ... upread.htm
60 000 to palestine

About 90,000 German-Jewish refugees were able to immigrate to the United States and 60,000 to Palestine, which was then under British Mandate. An additional 84,000 German-Jewish refugees immigrated to Central and South America, and because the Japanese-controlled city of Shanghai in China did not require visas or certificates of good conduct from Jewish immigrants, 15,000-18,000 Jews found refuge there.

Here another fact. The jewish population increased by 500 000 between 1941-1948 so where is this 6 000 000?

[ygalg]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

[ringmaster]

The german taskfore killing over 1 million, im starting to wonder what kind of zionist sources you are using

German SS records captured by the allies after the war.

The same stupid Arabs who have gotten their asses kicked by numerically fewer Jews.

They lost the six days war that is right but it was thanks to the Soviet Union and Usa. Stupid Soviets not stupid Arabs.
Egypt won the Ramadan war/yum kippur war. Pre-1973 Israel was looked up on as being "invisible" independent of Us support and that it had destroyed the arabs and that they where going to restore the great Israel..

Wrong on all counts.

(1) Israel had no American weapons whatsoever in the 1967 war. Israeli weapons were of French manufacture.
(2) Arabs had Soviet weapons. They were too stupid to use them properly.
(3) Arabs lost the Yom Kippur war because they failed in their objective to take Jerusalem. It was only UN intervention that saved Egypt’s armies from total annihilation in Sinai. It was the Arab loss in that war that triggered the Oil Embargo.
(4) At one point in the Yom Kippur war, before Israel was fully mobilized, all that stood between the Egyptian army and Jersualem were less than 500 fully mobilized Israeli soldiers (less than a batallion).
(5) You cannot blame USA and the Soviets in any case. Remember, everything that happens is the will of whoremaster allah.

Sadly after losing the Yum kippur war this dreams went down the drain for Israel 1973 Israel was looked up on as a terrorist state thanks to their stupid invasion of Lebanon.
Also last time i cheaked Israel lost a war to a bunch men with ak47 with rpg in 2006. Hizbollah. You se Israel was used to kids with rocks when they got Real men with ak47 it was to much for them.

Last time I checked, Israel is still there. The Arab objective of destroying her has not yet been achieved.

Jewish Population in Germany, 1871-1944.

Year Jewish population

1871 512,158

1880 562,612

1890 567,884

1900 586,833

1910 615,021

1925 564,379

1933 503,0001

1939 234,0002

1941 164,000

1942 51,000

1943 31,910

1944 14,574

Table from the Encyclopedia Judaica,

Now to the migration part.

300 000 Germans migrated from during late 30s and early 40s

Between 1933 and 1939, more than 300,000 Germans, perhaps 90 percent of them Jews, had applied for immigration visas to the United States, and by 1940 about 90,000 German Jews had found sanctuary in America.

Around 90 000 went to Usa

Everything you say is irrelevant. Your numbers mean nothing.

Why?

Because most Jewish deaths in WW2 were on Jews who lived outside of Germany (especially Poland and the Soviet Union). You focus on Jews within Germany, where the casualties were far fewer...mostly because Germany had far fewer Jews than many of the conquered lands.

[Ghaith]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

Lucy Schildkret Dawidowicz (June 16, 1915 – December 5, 1990) was an American historian and an author of books on modern Jewish history, in particular books on the Holocaust.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Dawidowicz
Hmm

German SS records captured by the allies after the war.

Im sure the nice allies, released them just as they captured them.

(1) Israel had no American weapons whatsoever in the 1967 war. Israeli weapons were of French manufacture.

Im sure the M2 Browning, Sikorsky H-34, MIM-23 Hawk, M2, M3, M48 Patton where French right? They just had the Us written on them but im sure that stands for France some how ....

Im pretty sure the misinformed Soviet intelligence about that Israel was not preparing an attack and the Yemen Civil War didnt give an upper hand to Israel.

Israel did all by it self.

(2) Arabs had Soviet weapons. They were too stupid to use them properly.

And im sure the Israelies used their weapons perfect. That why Pakistan sent a few soldier that shot down 10 Israeli ten Israeli aircraft, including Mirages, Mystères and Vautours, without losses on their own side.

Arabs lost the Yom Kippur

Thats why Israel still owns Sinai right? Peace treaty sure sure.

You cannot blame USA and the Soviets in any case.

Cant blame soviet for the bad information they gave in 1967 and cant blame Usa for aiding Israel in 1967 and with loads in 1973.
Im sure all those tanks and planes Usa gave to Israel during the war didnt help them one bit. Im sure Israel would still exist today if it wasnt for Us aid and Operation Nickel Grass.

Israel was a reck before us came to aid.

before Israel was fully mobilized,

You mean before Us got into fight.

Israel didnt win the Yum Kippur war. They lost Sinai.

[Ghaith]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

Lucy Schildkret Dawidowicz (June 16, 1915 – December 5, 1990) was an American historian and an author of books on modern Jewish history, in particular books on the Holocaust.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Dawidowicz
Hmm

German SS records captured by the allies after the war.

Im sure the nice allies, released them just as they captured them.

(1) Israel had no American weapons whatsoever in the 1967 war. Israeli weapons were of French manufacture.

Im sure the M2 Browning, Sikorsky H-34, MIM-23 Hawk, M2, M3, M48 Patton where French right? They just had the Us written on them but im sure that stands for France some how ....

Im pretty sure the misinformed Soviet intelligence about that Israel was not preparing an attack and the Yemen Civil War didnt give an upper hand to Israel.

Israel did all by it self.

(2) Arabs had Soviet weapons. They were too stupid to use them properly.

And im sure the Israelies used their weapons perfect. That why Pakistan sent a few soldier that shot down 10 Israeli ten Israeli aircraft, including Mirages, Mystères and Vautours, without losses on their own side.

Arabs lost the Yom Kippur

Thats why Israel still owns Sinai right? Peace treaty sure sure.

You cannot blame USA and the Soviets in any case.

Cant blame soviet for the bad information they gave in 1967 and cant blame Usa for aiding Israel in 1967 and with loads in 1973.
Im sure all those tanks and planes Usa gave to Israel during the war didnt help them one bit. Im sure Israel would still exist today if it wasnt for Us aid and Operation Nickel Grass.

Israel was a reck before us came to aid.

before Israel was fully mobilized,

You mean before Us got into fight.

Israel didnt win the Yum Kippur war. They lost Sinai.

[Ghaith]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

Lucy Schildkret Dawidowicz (June 16, 1915 – December 5, 1990) was an American historian and an author of books on modern Jewish history, in particular books on the Holocaust.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Dawidowicz
Hmm

German SS records captured by the allies after the war.

Im sure the nice allies, released them just as they captured them.

(1) Israel had no American weapons whatsoever in the 1967 war. Israeli weapons were of French manufacture.

Im sure the M2 Browning, Sikorsky H-34, MIM-23 Hawk, M2, M3, M48 Patton where French right? They just had the Us written on them but im sure that stands for France some how ....

Im pretty sure the misinformed Soviet intelligence about that Israel was not preparing an attack and the Yemen Civil War didnt give an upper hand to Israel.

Israel did all by it self.

(2) Arabs had Soviet weapons. They were too stupid to use them properly.

And im sure the Israelies used their weapons perfect. That why Pakistan sent a few soldier that shot down 10 Israeli ten Israeli aircraft, including Mirages, Mystères and Vautours, without losses on their own side.

Arabs lost the Yom Kippur

Thats why Israel still owns Sinai right? Peace treaty sure sure.

You cannot blame USA and the Soviets in any case.

Cant blame soviet for the bad information they gave in 1967 and cant blame Usa for aiding Israel in 1967 and with loads in 1973.
Im sure all those tanks and planes Usa gave to Israel during the war didnt help them one bit. Im sure Israel would still exist today if it wasnt for Us aid and Operation Nickel Grass.

Israel was a reck before us came to aid.

before Israel was fully mobilized,

You mean before Us got into fight.

Israel didnt win the Yum Kippur war. They lost Sinai.

[ygalg]

Lucy Schildkret Dawidowicz (June 16, 1915 – December 5, 1990) was an American historian and an author of books on modern Jewish history, in particular books on the Holocaust.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Dawidowicz
Hmm

damn if only he was a muslim or a nazi, that would've made him credible.

[Ghaith]

Lucy Schildkret Dawidowicz (June 16, 1915 – December 5, 1990) was an American historian and an author of books on modern Jewish history, in particular books on the Holocaust.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Dawidowicz
Hmm

damn if only he was a muslim or a nazi, that would've made him credible.

damn if only he was a muslim or or a non zionist that would've made him credible. Words of American is not worth anything.

Like this guy "David John Cawdell Irving (born 24 March 1938) is an English writer,"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Irving

[yeezevee]

.............]
damn if only he was a muslim or or a non zionist that would've made him credible. Words of American is not worth anything.

Like this guy "David John Cawdell Irving (born 24 March 1938) is an English writer,"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Irving

Something is wrong with you "Ghaith.." What is the problem if a guy not Muslim??

We made Jesus Muslim, Moses Muslim,Abraham Muslim.. and 100s of others before the birth of Islam.,,So why can/t we make that guy David John Cawdell Irving a Muslim., force the rascal to become Muslim., otherwise hell fire in this life and after this life...

[Ghaith]

.............]
damn if only he was a muslim or or a non zionist that would've made him credible. Words of American is not worth anything.

Like this guy "David John Cawdell Irving (born 24 March 1938) is an English writer,"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Irving

Something is wrong with you "Ghaith.." What is the problem if a guy not Muslim??

We made Jesus Muslim, Moses Muslim,Abraham Muslim.. and 100s of others before the birth of Islam.,,So why can/t we make that guy David John Cawdell Irving a Muslim., force the rascal to become Muslim., otherwise hell fire in this life and after this life...

Why are you quoting me out of context

damn if only he was a muslim or or a non zionist that would've made him credible. Words of American is not worth anything.

[ygalg]

damn if only he was a muslim or or a non zionist that would've made him credible. Words of American is not worth anything.

the're non zionist who're reputable personage and trustworthy. muslims OTOH mythomaniacs.

[Ghaith]

damn if only he was a muslim or or a non zionist that would've made him credible. Words of American is not worth anything.

the're non zionist who're reputable personage and trustworthy. muslims OTOH mythomaniacs.

Hmm tought there where no such thing as a trust whorty gentile in judaism Tought their value was less dogs hmm