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ringmaster wrote:I have read the Koran and hadith, and I know enough about them to do all of the following:
Spoiler! :
(1) I can make your garbage toilet allah guy out to be the scumbag that he is.
(2) I can make your prophet look like the manwhore, thief, murderer, pedophile, rapist…etc. that he was.
(3) I can make you look like a fool in your attempts to defend them.

But really, to understand the koran, there is only a small part of the it we need to know, because most of it is abrogated. We only need to know the latter Medina Verses.

You can say whatever you want...as long as you're happy

I will say what I want, and your garbage toilet allah guy can’t do anything about it.

SAM wrote:
Jews..they are most cowards people on the earth...

It obviously rankles you that a billion muslims cannot take a tiny sliver of land away from a few million Jews.

I guess 5 prayers a day to your vagina statue just don’t cut it.

SAM wrote:
Answer me.. have you ask Japanese.why they worship the penis?
It doesn’t matter whether the Japanese worship an idol or not. You have proclaimed to this forum that you idol worship the statue of a vagina. It’s too late to slither out of that one. You said what you said.
You're circling with the same old arguments over and over again, ... :*) Go back to school you need refreshment ideas.... :lol:
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ringmaster wrote:
Some of the early Medina verses (like 2-256) are abrogated by verses 9-5 and 9-29 (both latter Medina verses).
Can you explain how 2:256 is abrogated by 9:5 and 9:29 or do we have to take your word for it?
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SAM wrote:
darth wrote:Answer the question. What did mo bring that was new?
Darth... you keep asking the same question.. I've already answered your questions and you still have not answered my question?
Sam, sam, you have answered nothing. What did mo bring that was new?
SAM wrote: "Did you know you what does the Ahl al-Bayt(THE HOUSEHOLD) mean to you ? "
Do you know the point of that verse at all? I doubt if you understand it.

SAM wrote: "There are four grades of knowledge in Islam. Which grade are you interested?"
Are you a sufi?
SAM wrote: This is why I said, "you know nothing about Muhammad's teaching."
Sufiism was not taught by mo. Sufiism is a copy of eastern mysticism meshed with islam. (Since traditional islam does not recognize sufiisim, pakistani sufis are being murdered along with non muslims.

SAM wrote: I had already answered....see the highlighting words marked as blue
Sam, be afraid, be very afraid. iblis has you.

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YahooChatIslam1 wrote:
Can you explain how 2:256 is abrogated by 9:5 and 9:29 or do we have to take your word for it?
We do not have to explain abrogation to you. If you don't have abrogation, then the quran is a mix of contradictory messages and therefore useless. If you accept abrogation (which according to the quran is okay since allah claims to be replacing some verses with better ones) then you have the case of later verses replacing earlier ones in their message. Either way is okay with us - useless book with contradictory messages or useless book with abrogated messages. .

But try not to go out of topic which is why mo had such poor control over his desires that he had to get as many women as possible.

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darth wrote:
Sam, sam, you have answered nothing. What did mo bring that was new?
Darth, I understand that your name darth is inspired by fictional universe where stars wars took place or is it your own creation?

And, by mo; i take it that you meant Muhammad pbuh. Mo was NOT his name. So for intellectual reasons; you should not throw in random insults at names.

You have asked what the prophet of Islam brought new. This question is something of a puzzle because we do not know what you mean by "new".

So what do you mean "new" when you ask that question?

If you accept abrogation (which according to the quran is okay since allah claims to be replacing some verses with better ones) then you have the case of later verses replacing earlier ones in their message.
Does the so called abrogation you are making reference to in the above statement refer to the verses of the Holy Quran?
16:10 - And upon Allah rests the showing of the right way, and there are ways which deviate from the right course. And if He had enforced His Will, He would have guided you all.

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YahooChatIslam1 wrote:
Does the so called abrogation you are making reference to in the above statement refer to the verses of the Holy Quran?
First of all, there is nothing “holy” about the Koran. It is a cheap porn rag worthy of nothing more than ridicule and contempt.

Secondly, no reference from one verse to another has to be made to establish abrogation. It was your stupid moron allah guy who uses the word "abrogate" in verse 2-106. So all we have to do is identify two verses that contain clear contradictions, and then establish which verse comes later chronologically. The latter will always abrogate the earlier verse.

Those are not OUR rules. Those are the rules established by your stupid moron garbage toilet allah guy.
The prophet of Islam was nothing more than a common criminal.

Please tell me if this is accurate:

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YahooChatIslam1 wrote:
Darth, I understand that your name darth is inspired by fictional universe where stars wars took place or is it your own creation?

And, by mo; i take it that you meant Muhammad pbuh. Mo was NOT his name. So for intellectual reasons; you should not throw in random insults at names.

You have asked what the prophet of Islam brought new. This question is something of a puzzle because we do not know what you mean by "new".

Actually, "Darth" may just be his real name. In any case, Darth does not need to digress from the topic here by dealing with the origins of his name. They are none of your concern.

As for your prophet (and for that matter, as for your garbage toilet allah guy), we feel no compunction about throwing insults at either of them, especially your “qathem” prophet. Your prophet was a scumbag, pure and simple. He was a liar, thief, pedophile, adulterer, slave trader, rapist and murderer.

So if you don’t like us kufars saying nasty things about your prophet, that’s too bad. We don’t have to like the garbage that is spewed forth in either the koran or hadith, and we can say so. Most important of all, we don’t need your permission.
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The prophet of Islam was nothing more than a common criminal.

Please tell me if this is accurate:

“I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken.”
~MUHAMMAD (Al-Tabari 6:111)

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ringmaster wrote:
YahooChatIslam1 wrote:
Darth, I understand that your name darth is inspired by fictional universe where stars wars took place or is it your own creation?

And, by mo; i take it that you meant Muhammad pbuh. Mo was NOT his name. So for intellectual reasons; you should not throw in random insults at names.

You have asked what the prophet of Islam brought new. This question is something of a puzzle because we do not know what you mean by "new".

Actually, "Darth" may just actually be his name. In any case, Darth does not need to digress from the topic here by dealing with the origins of his name. They are none of your concern.

As for your prophet (and for that matter, as for your garbage toilet allah guy), we feel no compunction about throwing insults at either of them, especially your “qathem” prophet. Your prophet was a scumbag, pure and simple. He was a liar, thief, pedophile, adulterer, slave trader, rapist and murderer.

So if you don’t like us kufars saying nasty things about your prophet, that’s too bad. We don’t have to like the garbage that is spewed forth in either the koran or hadith, and we can say so. Most important of all, we don’t need your permission.
Gee, Ringmaster. Tell us what you really think. :D

You left out psycho-sociopathic nymphomaniac with a denial of latent homosexual tendencies, delusional borerline personality with hallucinatory schizophrenia. All of this led to everything he said, taught, and claimed to see and hear from Gabriel as a message from "Allah" who is nothing more than the moon-god his Arab tribe worshiped.

Have I left anything out? :???:

Anyone notice how much Khomeini sounds like Mohammad when it comes to sex? And in the 21st century! So much for progress in Islam.

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ThereIs1Adonai wrote:
Gee, Ringmaster. Tell us what you really think. :D

You left out psycho-sociopathic nymphomaniac with a denial of latent homosexual tendencies, delusional borerline personality with hallucinatory schizophrenia. All of this led to everything he said, taught, and claimed to see and hear from Gabriel as a message from "Allah" who is nothing more than the moon-god his Arab tribe worshiped.

Have I left anything out? :???:

Anyone notice how much Khomeini sounds like Mohammad when it comes to sex? And in the 21st century! So much for progress in Islam.

Peace, Shalom


To say what I think, I have to choose my words carefully. I try to follow the forum rules by avoiding the use of cuss words. Islam is so disgusting that it can be difficult sometimes.

From what I have read, the prophet's homosexuality was more than a mere "tendency". With his gay lover Zahir, it was right out in the open. Didn't the prophet also like to dress up in his wife's clothes?
The prophet of Islam was nothing more than a common criminal.

Please tell me if this is accurate:

“I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken.”
~MUHAMMAD (Al-Tabari 6:111)

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ringmaster wrote:
ThereIs1Adonai wrote:
Gee, Ringmaster. Tell us what you really think. :D

You left out psycho-sociopathic nymphomaniac with a denial of latent homosexual tendencies, delusional borerline personality with hallucinatory schizophrenia. All of this led to everything he said, taught, and claimed to see and hear from Gabriel as a message from "Allah" who is nothing more than the moon-god his Arab tribe worshiped.

Have I left anything out? :???:

Anyone notice how much Khomeini sounds like Mohammad when it comes to sex? And in the 21st century! So much for progress in Islam.

Peace, Shalom


To say what I think, I have to choose my words carefully. I try to follow the forum rules by avoiding the use of cuss words. Islam is so disgusting that it can be difficult sometimes.

From what I have read, the prophet's homosexuality was more than a mere "tendency". With his gay lover Zahir, it was right out in the open. Didn't the prophet also like to dress up in his wife's clothes?
Dress in drag? Uh... what would be different in women's clothing than the Arab robes? :D Or perhaps he liked silk panties? Wouldn't surprise me.

The man gave edicts to his followers that he clearly violated, and yet they refuse to see it. They clearly suffer BIA (Brainwashing in Action). The mind is a terrible thing to waste, but once wasted we should waste it permanently.

Peace, Shalom

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darth wrote:
SAM wrote:
darth wrote:Answer the question. What did mo bring that was new?
Darth... you keep asking the same question.. I've already answered your questions and you still have not answered my question?
Spoiler! :
Sam, sam, you have answered nothing. What did mo bring that was new?
SAM wrote: "Did you know you what does the Ahl al-Bayt(THE HOUSEHOLD) mean to you ? "
Do you know the point of that verse at all? I doubt if you understand it.

SAM wrote: "There are four grades of knowledge in Islam. Which grade are you interested?"
Are you a sufi?
SAM wrote: This is why I said, "you know nothing about Muhammad's teaching."
Sufiism was not taught by mo. Sufiism is a copy of eastern mysticism meshed with islam. (Since traditional islam does not recognize sufiisim, pakistani sufis are being murdered along with non muslims.

SAM wrote: I had already answered....see the highlighting words marked as blue
Sam, be afraid, be very afraid. iblis has you.
:stupid: ignore the troll
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SAM wrote:
Sam, be afraid, be very afraid. iblis has you.[/spoiler]
:stupid: ignore the troll [/quote]


Trolls do not stop their behavior until killed. What we need is a great big old billy goat! http://www.funpagesforkids.com/billy/


Notice they did not use the word "killed" but then again, it is a children's story. Just because the troll went into the swirling waters and was never heard from again...

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my question to ring master:
Can you explain how 2:256 is abrogated by 9:5 and 9:29 or do we have to take your word for it?
Ring Master replied:

1: there is nothing “holy” about the Koran
2: It is a cheap porn rag worthy of nothing more than ridicule and contempt.
3: was your stupid moron allah guy
4: by your stupid moron garbage toilet allah guy
5: (and for that matter, as for your garbage toilet allah guy),
6: Your prophet was a scumbag, pure and simple
7: He was a liar, thief, pedophile, adulterer, slave trader, rapist and murderer.
8: We don’t have to like the garbage that is spewed forth in either the koran or hadith
9: Islam is so disgusting that it can be difficult sometimes
10: the prophet's homosexuality was more than a mere "tendency".
11: With his gay lover Zahir, it was right out in the open.
12: Didn't the prophet also like to dress up in his wife's clothes?

Ring Master, you have not responded to my question. You have instead taken your time to respond to a post which was originally addressed to Darth. Then you spoke on behalf of Darth and reminded us that he does not need to digress:
In any case, Darth does not need to digress from the topic here by dealing with the origins of his name.
Looking at the list of insults, we can safely deduce who is perpetrating digression. It is not Darth. Rather than responding to the question addressed to you about abrogation, you have jumped onto posts addressed to Darth, filled out your posts with lots of insults, and then told me "They are none of your concern."

My question to Ring Master was, "Can you explain how 2:256 is abrogated by 9:5 and 9:29 or do we have to take your word for it?".

Are you able to explain?
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YahooChatIslam1 wrote: Darth, I understand that your name darth is inspired by fictional universe where stars wars took place or is it your own creation?
Darth as a fictional character of star wars was better than your mo's fictional allah.
But it is my real name as well!!!
YahooChatIslam1 wrote: And, by mo; i take it that you meant Muhammad pbuh. Mo was NOT his name. So for intellectual reasons; you should not throw in random insults at names.
As long as you understand who I mean we are okay. While I have no problems insulting mo, the usage of mo as such is not an insult. It is simply a refusal to treat him with any more reverance than he deserves. While at it, I would suggest you drop all this pbuh nonsense. You are over honoring and idolizing a mere man - that too one who caused only war and strife. If you use pbuh for Christ, Buddha, zoroaster at least it makes sense - though they never needed such terms of address. They were already men at peace.
YahooChatIslam1 wrote: You have asked what the prophet of Islam brought new. This question is something of a puzzle because we do not know what you mean by "new".

So what do you mean "new" when you ask that question?
How about - something that is beneficial to mankind and was not taught before him.

YahooChatIslam1 wrote:
If you accept abrogation (which according to the quran is okay since allah claims to be replacing some verses with better ones) then you have the case of later verses replacing earlier ones in their message.
Does the so called abrogation you are making reference to in the above statement refer to the verses of the Holy Quran?
Can you prove it is not? Abrogated verse or contradictory verse - for me it does not matter either way because both ways it proves the quran to be the work of a man not of a god..

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hey ringmaster.....

Reply YahooChatIslam1 question,

"Can you explain how 2:256 is abrogated by 9:5 and 9:29 or do we have to take your word for it?".
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YahooChatIslam1 wrote:
Can you explain how 2:256 is abrogated by 9:5 and 9:29 or do we have to take your word for it?
Simple.

The "no compulsion" mantra in verse 2-256 is contradicted by the aggressive nature of verse 9-5 and the extortion (aka jizya) mandated in 9-29.

Since 9-5 and 9-29 come chronologically after 2-256, the latter abrogate the former.
The prophet of Islam was nothing more than a common criminal.

Please tell me if this is accurate:

“I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken.”
~MUHAMMAD (Al-Tabari 6:111)

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YahooChatIslam1 wrote:
1: there is nothing “holy” about the Koran
2: It is a cheap porn rag worthy of nothing more than ridicule and contempt.
3: was your stupid moron allah guy
4: by your stupid moron garbage toilet allah guy
5: (and for that matter, as for your garbage toilet allah guy),
6: Your prophet was a scumbag, pure and simple
7: He was a liar, thief, pedophile, adulterer, slave trader, rapist and murderer.
8: We don’t have to like the garbage that is spewed forth in either the koran or hadith
9: Islam is so disgusting that it can be difficult sometimes
10: the prophet's homosexuality was more than a mere "tendency".
11: With his gay lover Zahir, it was right out in the open.
12: Didn't the prophet also like to dress up in his wife's clothes?
It’s nice to see that you and I agree on some essential points about your allah guy and his manwhore prophet.

:roflmao:
YahooChatIslam1 wrote:
Ring Master, you have not responded to my question. You have instead taken your time to respond to a post which was originally addressed to Darth. Then you spoke on behalf of Darth and reminded us that he does not need to digress:
The answer to your question should have been obvious. All you have to do is read the verses, but since you didn’t clue in, I have answered them for you.
YahooChatIslam1 wrote:
Looking at the list of insults, we can safely deduce who is perpetrating digression. It is not Darth. Rather than responding to the question addressed to you about abrogation, you have jumped onto posts addressed to Darth, filled out your posts with lots of insults, and then told me "They are none of your concern."
This forum is about islam, not about the origin of Darth’s name. That means it is appropriate to talk about your allah guy and his prophet.

So in the attributes I have applied to them, I have not digressed at all.

:roflmao:
The prophet of Islam was nothing more than a common criminal.

Please tell me if this is accurate:

“I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken.”
~MUHAMMAD (Al-Tabari 6:111)

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Thanks, Sam.

Darth wrote:
As long as you understand who I mean we are okay. While I have no problems insulting mo, the usage of mo as such is not an insult. It is simply a refusal to treat him with any more reverance than he deserves.
There are several reasons for wanting to throw in personal insults in the disguise of intellectual discussion. One such reason is to prevent critical questioning.

Twisting proper nouns just because you do not agree with them gives readers the impression that you have attached sentimental value to your opponents names. If we take that kind of dismissive attitude, then the other parties are equally entitled to not just twist proper nouns but also fly in the face of common decency. This is clearly a recipe for disaster.

Darth & Ringmaster, you have to distance your emotional feelings from personal attacks so that critical analysis is allowed intellectual space.
Ringmaster wrote:
The "no compulsion" mantra in verse 2-256 is contradicted by the aggressive nature of verse 9-5 and the extortion (aka jizya) mandated in 9-29...Since 9-5 and 9-29 come chronologically after 2-256, the latter abrogate the former.
There are two distinct charges in the above paragraph.
1: No compulsion verse contradicts aggressive nature.
2: No compulsion verse contradicts Jiyza Tax.

Extortion is defined as "Illegal use of one's official position or powers to obtain property, funds, or patronage."

Let us analyse how you understand Jizya tax first. Why do you differentiate this tax as some kind of extortion money and not normal tax on dhimmis?
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The jyzya is exhortation money.

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YahooChatIslam1 wrote: Twisting proper nouns just because you do not agree with them gives readers the impression that you have attached sentimental value to your opponents names. If we take that kind of dismissive attitude, then the other parties are equally entitled to not just twist proper nouns but also fly in the face of common decency. This is clearly a recipe for disaster.

Darth & Ringmaster, you have to distance your emotional feelings from personal attacks so that critical analysis is allowed intellectual space.
For the record - no emotions are involved in addressing mo as mo. I have always called him mo and probably always him. It is more convenient and it serves my purpose of not treating him with any more respect than he deserves.
Don't let this cause you so much emotional upheaval that you are unable to stick to the topic at hand.
If you wish to retaliate by twisting some other proper noun, be my guest. I will try bear the insults manfully.
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