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Thanks to those who responded.

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Obviously he liked to dip it where ever he could
All men should have been born with sperm that tastes like maple sirop. And all women should suffer from sugar craving.

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Agree.

Muhammed was a sick, perverted old man.

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mothepedo wrote:Obviously he liked to dip it where ever he could

In my experience, this is the one thing at which all muslims strive the most strenuously to emulate their prophet.
The prophet of Islam was nothing more than a common criminal.

Please tell me if this is accurate:

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ringmaster wrote:
mothepedo wrote:Obviously he liked to dip it where ever he could

In my experience, this is the one thing at which all muslims strive the most strenuously to emulate their prophet.
FYI most of the muslims only have only one woman in their entire life. That's the only woman they ever had sex with. They don't have sex with 10 gf before getting married. Again ignorance is your enemy # one.

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So iffo, i get the impression from your post that you think it's bad to have more than one wife at the same time? is that true?

Well it was good enough for the best man ever born. It seems clear anyway, why some societies allow polygamy. Obviously societies that are always at war, will have a much bigger population gap between men and women, because all the men would be dying in battle. This means that if only one man were allowed to have one wife, there would be many single women. To fix this, polygamy is introduced, and everyone is happy.
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Hello zamie

One can extend the matter of polygamy even more. When Muhammad and his mercenaries engaged in war there was an added attraction for the men. Some men would not have been able to attract a wife and so if they won the battle and survived they could claim their share of right hand possessions. Problem solved. However, there was a bonus. If they died fighting for Allah they would go straight to paradise with all those virgins waiting for them. It was a win/win situation.

The only downside was that Muhammad had first choice of the pretty young women.

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iffo wrote:
FYI most of the muslims only have only one woman in their entire life. That's the only woman they ever had sex with. They don't have sex with 10 gf before getting married. Again ignorance is your enemy # one.

So are you trying to tell us that most muslims think their prophet was wrong?
The prophet of Islam was nothing more than a common criminal.

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In iffo's mind it is 'virtuous' for a Muslim to shun pre-marital sex, but it was okay for Muslims to have had sex slaves throughout the 1400 years of Islam. Raping sex slaves was okay, but having a consensual relationship with a girl is wrong. In iffo's mind it is also 'virtuous' for a Muslim to have up to 4 wives (at any one time) - but not girlfriends. A Muslim can recycle his wives multiple times over - and still remain 'virtuous'. It's all a sick hypocrisy.

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Cassie wrote:In iffo's mind it is 'virtuous' for a Muslim to shun pre-marital sex, but it was okay for Muslims to have had sex slaves throughout the 1400 years of Islam. Raping sex slaves was okay, but having a consensual relationship with a girl is wrong. In iffo's mind it is also 'virtuous' for a Muslim to have up to 4 wives (at any one time) - but not girlfriends. A Muslim can recycle his wives multiple times over - and still remain 'virtuous'. It's all a sick hypocrisy.
Cassie please consider the following quote:

One study found that the male-to-female sex ratio in the German state of Bavaria fell as low as 0.60 after the end of World War II for the most severely affected age cohort (those between 21 and 23 years old in 1946). This same study found that out-of-wedlock births spiked from approximately 10–15% during the inter-war years up to 22% at the end of the war. This increase in out-of-wedlock births was attributed to a change in the marriage market caused by the decline in the sex ratio.

1: A ratio of 0.60 means there were 60 men for every 100 women [just in Bavaria?] at the end of World War 2. What Would you recommend for every 40/100 women?

2: How would you comment on 22 bastards born out of every 100 babies?
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YahooChatIslam1,
What is the ratio of males to females NOW? Is the Quran's polygamy laws applicable NOW? Or only in periods when females outnumber males by 4 to 1?

What about sex slaves? Is there EVER a period when taking sex slaves is okay? Is war a valid moral excuse to make women captives into sex slaves?

Grow some morals, YahooChatIslam1. It is obvious you have none.

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YahooChatIslam1 wrote:
Cassie wrote:In iffo's mind it is 'virtuous' for a Muslim to shun pre-marital sex, but it was okay for Muslims to have had sex slaves throughout the 1400 years of Islam. Raping sex slaves was okay, but having a consensual relationship with a girl is wrong. In iffo's mind it is also 'virtuous' for a Muslim to have up to 4 wives (at any one time) - but not girlfriends. A Muslim can recycle his wives multiple times over - and still remain 'virtuous'. It's all a sick hypocrisy.
Cassie please consider the following quote:

One study found that the male-to-female sex ratio in the German state of Bavaria fell as low as 0.60 after the end of World War II for the most severely affected age cohort (those between 21 and 23 years old in 1946). This same study found that out-of-wedlock births spiked from approximately 10–15% during the inter-war years up to 22% at the end of the war. This increase in out-of-wedlock births was attributed to a change in the marriage market caused by the decline in the sex ratio.

1: A ratio of 0.60 means there were 60 men for every 100 women [just in Bavaria?] at the end of World War 2. What Would you recommend for every 40/100 women?

2: How would you comment on 22 bastards born out of every 100 babies?
YOu failed to reason. All the men and women dont marry at the same time . Its not that all 60 men and women plan to marry at the same time.

Secondly you borrow these idiotic and rubbish arguments from Zakir Naik. All Zakir Naik's argument have been addressed here.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Response ... lygamy.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I am quoting a part from answering islam

Bahrain 1.3 male(s)/female (2000 est.)
Djibouti 1.07 male(s)/female (2000 est.)
Jordan 1.1 male(s)/female (2000 est.)
Kuwait 1.5 male(s)/female (2000 est.)
Oman 1.31 male(s)/female (2000 est.)
Qatar 1.93 male(s)/female (2000 est.)
Saudi Arabia 1.24 male(s)/female (2000 est.)
UAE 1.51 male(s)/female (2000 est.)

So should females marry 4 men now?
Look around yourself and you'll find people with virtues are never required to demand respect since they automatically earn it. It is only those that are devoid of any virtues need to threaten and bully to gain respect. Needless to say that quran cannot be from God.

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hehe, yoour quote just proves my speculation behind the logic of Polygyny in islam. WAR means that losts of men die, so since islam was pretty much at war all the time during the days of mr mohammed, Polygyny had to be introduced.
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Cassie wrote:YahooChatIslam1,
What is the ratio of males to females NOW? Is the Quran's polygamy laws applicable NOW? Or only in periods when females outnumber males by 4 to 1?

What about sex slaves? Is there EVER a period when taking sex slaves is okay? Is war a valid moral excuse to make women captives into sex slaves?

Grow some morals, YahooChatIslam1. It is obvious you have none.
Cassie, Are you going to escape my questions by asking counter rhetorical questions?

You do not want to answer my questions then?
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iffo wrote:
ringmaster wrote:
mothepedo wrote:Obviously he liked to dip it where ever he could

In my experience, this is the one thing at which all muslims strive the most strenuously to emulate their prophet.
FYI most of the muslims only have only one woman in their entire life. That's the only woman they ever had sex with. They don't have sex with 10 gf before getting married. Again ignorance is your enemy # one.

That is a lie. The most muslim men engage in temporary marriage which they get rid of when they want to move on to another girl. Some find a girl whom they make their formal wife. But most men no matter which muslim country they come from engage in temporary marriage loop hole that many women fall victim to. Mostly western non muslim women who do not know any better.

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YahooChatIslam1,
I don't think you get it. Your religion is not only for war-time, is it? So you can't apply only a specific period to justify your religion.

Besides, a 60-100 ratio doesn't justify 4-1 polygamy. In postwar Europe, when women outnumbered men, society went on fine. It wasn't a 25-100 ratio, was it? It was a 60-100 ratio as you claimed. Hence you are completely wrong.

Your second assertion about the 22 bastards out of every 100 children is a non-sequitar. How does that even prove that polygamy has anything to do with children born out of wedlock? You have a very Islamic way of thinking. Are you really saying that if a society allows polygamy, children will no longer be born out of wedlock? Modern societies have progressed beyond such puerile paternalism.

By the way, now that I have answered your questions, how about you answering mine? Is your quran for war time or for all time?

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Bibles allow to marry one millions even
Krishna of Hindus used to have over 60000 wives
Bible says prophet Solomon used to have over 700 wives and concubine.


Quran is only the book that say, Mary only one. and up to 4 during war when so many men are killed that woman offset men numbers

Hadith books of persian are lies they have deliberately have defamed Prophet Muhammad.

Oldest sources confirm: he has one wife. when she died. He was w/o wife for three yrs.

In a battle one Muslim "Saleh bin saleh Attaibmartyred and left her very noble widow behind. Her widow was of 48 yrs. her name was Aisha.
All friends requested Muhammad to marry her and Prophet Muhammad Married her at 48 yr when Muhammad was 52 yrs. This is truth and all others are stories spread by evil shia and persians. The biggest witness is Quran. NO way any of prophets has done some thing in their lifes that were against the books that Allah sent to them.

It is imperative here to check up with the Qur’an about Mohammad’s social behavior and the kinds of commandments given to him by his Nourisher.

The verse 33:52 pronounces openly, ‘Mohammad your are forbidden to marry any other woman, besides the one’s, who are already in your Nikah!’

As per Surah Al-Threem, Mohammad had two wives at the time of his appointment to the exalted position of the Messenger of Allah. Despite the clear-cut command of the last revelation about his matrimonial limitations, how could Mohammad do, whatever he had been reported to be accomplishing by the compulsive Iranian liars, 300 years after his death? It does not make any sense, as the Messengers of Allah strictly adhere to the revelations they receive. Mohammad could never deviate from the explicit instructions passed on to him pertaining to his marital life and he could never indulge in the nefarious activities you have mentioned on the basis of the purported ‘Islamic literature.’ It is nothing but sordid kind of mudslinging on his impeccable character.

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"RozaBal"

Quran is only the book that say, Mary only one. and up to 4 during war when so many men are killed that woman offset men numbers
The Quran does not promote monogamy.

Sura 4:3

And if you be apprehensive that you will not be able to do justice to the orphans, you may marry two or three or four women whom you choose. But if you apprehend that you might not be able to do justice to them, then marry only one wife, or marry those who have fallen in your possession.

Explain this:
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Muslim explanations as to why Muhammad had so many wives
[edit] Muhammad Married for Political reasons and to Take Care of widows

Muslims state Muhammad married for political reasons and some of his marriages were meant to forge relationships between himself and other tribes. They also state Muhammad married widows of fallen soldiers so they could be provided for and would not have to struggle.
His later marriages were for various reasons. Some marriages were with the view to help the women whose husbands had been killed while they were defending their faith. Others were with a view to cement relationships with devoted followers like Abu Bakr, may Allah be pleased with him. Yet others were to build bridges with various tribes who were otherwise at war with the Muslims. When the prophet became their relative through marriage, their hostilities calmed down, and much bloodshed was averted.
Why Did Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) marry many wifes?
[edit] Not all of his Marriages were meant to forge political relationships nor were all his wives widows of fallen soldiers
[edit] Aisha
Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.
Ayesha The Child Wife of Muhammad

Aisha’s father Abu Bakr had already converted long before she was married to Muhammad, therefore the marriage was not for political reasons and Aisha was six years old so she couldn’t be a widow.
[edit] Hafsa
After Hafsa's husband died of wounds received at Uhud, Hafsa's father thought of her marrying Uthman, but Uthman declined because he knew Mohammed wanted to marry her. They married in 3 A.H. She was four years older than Aisha. Sunan Nasai vol.1 #32 p.117.
Why Did Mohammed Get So Many Wives?

According to this statement Uthman wanted to marry Hafsa, therefore someone was willing to take care of her. Therefore there was no reason for Muhammad to marry her.
[edit] Zainab bint Jahsh
Zainab bint Jahsh was married to Mohammed's adopted son, until Mohammed spoke the Sura that she was to divorce his son and marry Mohammed. Zainab "used to boast before the other wives of the Prophet and used to say,Allah married me (to the Prophet) in the Heavens. "One day Muhammad went out looking for Zaid (Mohammed's adopted son). Now there was a covering of hair cloth over the doorway, but the wind had lifted the covering so that the doorway was uncovered. Zaynab was in her chamber, undressed, and admiration for her entered the heart of the Prophet". (The History of al-Tabari, vol. 8, p. 4)
Why Did Mohammed Get So Many Wives?

Zainab bint Jahsh was Muhammad’s daughter in-law. Obviously he didn’t marry her for political reasons nor was she a widow.
[edit] Juwayriyyah

Muhammad married Juwayriyyah after killing her husband
Juwayriyyah bint al-Harith bin Abi Birar bin Habib, great grandson of Jadhimah al-Mustaliq of the Khuzaah group, was taken as booty when Muslims raided the al-Mustaliq tribe. Her husband, Musafi bin Safwan Dhu al-Shuir bin Abi Asrb bin Malik bin Jadhimah was killed in the battle. She was a prisoner of war who agreed to marry Mohammed.
Why Did Mohammed Get So Many Wives?
[edit] Safiya

Muhammad married Safiya after killing her father, brother, husband, and the men of her tribe:
Safiya bint Huyai/Huyayy was a captive Mohammed married after slaughtering her father, brother, husband and the men at Khaibar,
Why Did Mohammed Get So Many Wives?

It is obvious Muhammad some of Muhammad’s wives were not married for political reasons, nor were all of them widows. Two of them were made widows after Muhammad killed their husbands. So why did Muhammad marry so many women?
[edit] Muhammad Married Many Women Because He Can
[edit] Allah granted Muhammad special permission to marry as many women as he wanted
YUSUFALI: O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Qur'an 33:50
[edit] Muhammad's View on Women
[edit] Muhammad had a low opinion on women
Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate). So go to your tilth as ye will
Qur'an 2:223
Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other.. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them.
Qur'an 4:34
1. If a woman's conduct is mischievous or immodest, the husband has the right to beat her up but must not break her bones. She must not allow anybody to enter the house if her husband does not like him. She has the right to expect sustenance of her husband. (TR. P 439)

2. It is forbidden for a woman to be seen by any man except her husband when she is made up or well-dressed. (TR. P 430) 3. A woman is not a believer if she undertakes a journey which may last three days or longer, unless she is accompanied by her husband, son, father 4. A woman must veil herself even in the presence of her husband's father, brother and other male relations. (TR. P 432) 5. She is forbidden to spend any money without the permission of her husband, and it includes giving food to the needy or feast to friends. (TR. P 265) 6. A wife is forbidden to perform extra prayers (NAFAL) or observe fasting (other than RAMADAN) without the permission of her husband. (TR. P 300) 7. If prostration were a legitimate act other than to God, woman should have prostrated to her husband. (TR. P 428) 8. If a man is in a mood to have sexual intercourse the woman must come immediately even if she is baking bread at a communal oven. (TR. P 428) 9. The marriage of a woman to her man is not substantive. It is precarious. For example if the father of the husband orders his son to divorce his wife, he must do so. (TR. P 440) 10. A woman who seeks KHULA i.e. divorce from her man, without a just cause, shall not enter paradise. (TR. P 440) On the contrary, a husband can divorce his wife at will. 11. Majority of women would go to hell. (Muslim P 1431) 12. If a woman refuses to come to bed when invited by her husband, she becomes the target of the curses of angles. Exactly the same happens if she deserts her husband's bed. (Bokhari P 93) 13. Women who are ungrateful to their men are the denizens of hell; it is an act of ingratitude for a woman to say: "I have never seen any good from you." (Bokhari P 96)
14. A woman in many ways is deprived of the possession of her own body. Even her milk belongs to her husband. (Bokhari P 27) She is not allowed to practise birth control either.
Wondrous Treatment Of Women In Islam
[edit] Muhammad saw women as a walking vagina
Al Hadis, Vol. 2, p. 692, Ibn Ma`sud reported from the Messenger of Allah who said, "A woman is like a private part (sex organ). When she goes out (walking) the devil casts a glance at her (in lust). Attested by Tirmizi. To Muhammad, a woman was a walking vagina, which tells us more about his own mind than about women.
Mohammed's View of Women

Nikah means vagina
Another word in the list of serious intentional mistranslation is the Arabic word “Nikah.” The word has been translated as “marriage.” But those who understand Arabic know that this is not the exact meaning of the word. There is another word that is normally translated as marriage, and correctly so. It is the Arabic word “Zawag.” It is also mentioned in the Quran, as in the following verses:

“Then when Zaid had dissolved (his marriage) with her, with the necessary (formality), We joined her in marriage to thee: in order that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the Believers in (the matter of) marriage with the wives of their adopted sons, when the latter have dissolved with the necessary (formality) (their marriage) with them. And Allah's command must be fulfilled.” Sura 33: 37

The Arabic word “Nikah” is also translated as “marriage" in many other verses in the Quran as in the following:

“If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four” Sura 4: 3

“Let no man guilty of adultery or fornication marry and but a woman similarly guilty, or an Unbeliever: nor let any but such a man or an Unbeliever marry such a woman: to the Believers such a thing is forbidden.” Sura 24: 3 “And when ye ask (Mohammed’s wives) for anything ye want, ask them from before a screen: that makes for greater purity for your hearts and for theirs. Nor is it right for you that ye should annoy Allah's Messenger, or that ye should marry his widows after him at any time. Truly such a thing is in Allah's sight an enormity.” Sura 33: 53

Other verses where this word is also used are:

Sura 2: 221, 230, 232, 235 & 237; Sura 4: 6, 22 ,25 & 127; Sura 24:3, 27, 32, 33, 60 & 127; Sura 33: 49 & 50 The meaning of “Nikah”

What exactly does “Nikah” mean? The word Nikah doesn’t exactly mean “Marriage.” Let’s explore what the word means from the classical Islamic reference books according to the opinion of recognized Islamic scholars.

From: Dictionary of the Quranic phrases and its meaning; Sheik Mousa Ben Mohammed Al Kaleeby, Cairo, Maktabat Al Adab, 2002

The definition of “Nikah” is the penetration of one thing by another. Examples would be as in saying the seed (N) the soil or sleep (N) the eye. It also can mean the entwining of two objects one with the other. An example would be saying the trees (N) each other, meaning they entwined with one another.

From: Kitab (Book of) Al Nikah. Commentary of Imam Ahmed Ben Ali Ben Hagar Al Askalani, Beirut, Dar Al Balagha, 1986
Linguistically, “Nikah” means embracing or penetrating. When it is pronounced “Nokh” it refers to a woman’s vagina. It is mainly used in the context of “sexual intercourse.” When it was used in reference to marriage it is because sex is a necessity in marriage. Al Fassi said,”If someone says a certain man (N) a certain woman, it means he married her, and if he says a man (N) his wife, it means he has sexual intercourse with her.” The word can also be used metaphorically as with expressions: the rain (N) the ground, or, the sleep (N) the eyes, or, the seed (N) the soil, or, the pebble (N) the camel’s hoof. When it was used in the context of marriage it is because sexual intercourse is the purpose of marriage. It is necessary in marriage to “taste the honey” (an Islamic expression meaning literal intercourse). This is the how the word has generally been used in the Quran except in the verse that says, “Make trial of orphans until they reach the age of (N)” Sura 4: 6. In that instance it pertains to the age of puberty. The Shafia and Hanafi schools of jurisprudence assert that the word nikah when used as a fact conveys that sexual intercourse has occurred. And when used as a figure of speech it denotes marriage. The reason for this variance is because it is offensive to mention the word “intercourse,” so a metonymic word is used to substitute it
“Nikah” The Islamic “N” Word; What Does It Exactly Mean?
[edit] Muhammad was a womenizer
Layla clapped Mohammeds shoulder from behind and asked him to marry her. Mohammed accepted. Layla’s people said, "What a bad thing you have done! You are a self-respecting woman, but the Prophet is a womanizer. Seek an annulment from him. She went back to the Prophet and asked him to revoke the marriage and he complied with [her request].
Why Did Mohammed Get So Many Wives?
[edit] Conclusion

It is obvious Muhammad did not marry his wives for political reasons or because they were widows, but because of his low opinion of women he saw them as sex objects meant to satiate the his sexual desires.

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Where does the Quran say polygamy is only to be practised during war? Which verse, RozaBal? Stop telling lies.

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Cassie Wrote:
Besides, a 60-100 ratio doesn't justify 4-1 polygamy.
60/100 means, 60 men to every 100 women. Does it justify polygamy at all; at any ratio? Would you recommend for every 40/100 women?
It wasn't a 25-100 ratio, was it? It was a 60-100 ratio as you claimed. Hence you are completely wrong.
Perhaps you do not know the content of the verse in question. The pivotal point in the verse is:

1: Justice must be the driving force, because it is written 'marry only 1 if you can not do justice'. The verse does NOT say "EVERY man MUST marry 4, NOT 1, 2, or 3." Your interpretation of 25/100 is against the verse.

Cassie wrote:
Your second assertion about the 22 bastards out of every 100 children is a non-sequitar. How does that even prove that polygamy has anything to do with children born out of wedlock?
You have misunderstood what I have said. Bastards have always existed throughout history. I pointed out particular sharp increase of 22% at the end of 2nd world war and abundance in women. Do you not to see the correlation? If 22% of new generation being born out of wedlock was the norm in history then please quote some examples in support of your case.

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What about sex slaves? Is there EVER a period when taking sex slaves is okay? Is war a valid moral excuse to make women captives into sex slaves?
1: It is against the teachings of Quran to enslave anyone. The Quran has verse about freeing of already owned slaves.
2: It is against the teachings of Quran to capture anyone innocent.
3: Any non-muslim women taken captives were captured from the battlefield. Not kidnapped from their homes.
4: Those non-muslim women captives were either freed in compensation of the damages incured in the battle or married to.
5: Muslim women captured by the enemy were treated as slaves.
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