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Aisha age 6

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:08 pm
by ahmed2010
Prophet Muhammed, peace be upon him, married Aisha when she was 6 years old. But she did not come to live with him until 9.

Some girls mature early. At the age of 9, Aisha was a full woman. At time of marriage she was not mature enough.
Therfore, Prophet said to her father, Abu Bakr, that she can remain in her own house until she begins to mensurates. When she did, Prophet called her over and she remained with him until his death.
People in those days used to marry off their girls very early. If you look at different nations at the time, girls got wedded in early teen age years.
Even today, some non-Islamic nations permit early marriages.

Therefore, this should be no reason to hate the Prophet.

and come on please dont claim you in the west are better than muslims in your morals. you in the west rape your own daughters and have children from them. this is fact.
i know. ihave been watching TV which shows the immorality in west.
fathers have been keeping their own daughters as sex objects and having sex with them getting them pregnant.
dont deny it. its all over the news.

Re: Aisha age 6

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:56 pm
by ygalg
still plays with dolls, suit for a prophet to marry?

Re: Aisha age 6

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:13 pm
by manfred
dear ahmed,

I have some questions...

1) Would you find a 6 to 9 year old girl sexually attractive? Is it normal to see a 9 yar old girl as a potential sex-partner? If yes, there must be somehing wrong with me; if a nine year old asks me to buy her ice-cream I can't resist, because they are very cute and very sweet; but in a "kiddy" kind of way and I really cannot even remotely see anything sexual in them, not even a hint. To be blunt, I could not "deliver" anything sexual to a nive year old if my life depended on it. Am I ill, then?

2) You mention that Aisha started menstuating. Does that mean she was emotionally and even physically ready for a life-time commitment to a marriage? A nine year old cannot commit a crime or enter into a contract to buy something, and yet she can consent to marriage? How did Mohammed know that Aisha gave her consent to the marriage and to sexual intercourse? Do you know that sexual experiences by very young girls can very often lead to permanent emotional and psychological damage, and also to physical damage? How many children did Aisha bear Mohammed?

Re: Aisha age 6

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:23 pm
by John Monash
ygalg wrote:still plays with dolls, suit for a prophet to marry?


Yes, but only if the prophet is a paedophile.

You forgot to mention Ayesha was playing on her swing, and that her mother washed Ayesha's face in readiness to be sexually molested by the 54-year-old slave trader Muhammad (Peace be upon Allah's only apostle).

A mature nine-year-old women does not play on a swing, nor does she get her faced washed by her mother.

Muhammad also mandated "As many slave girls as your right hand possesses"

Has anyone ever wondered how young these child slaves were?

Re: Aisha age 6

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:58 am
by Cassie
There are girls who begin menstruation at 9 or even 6. That doesn't mean it is not disgusting for geriatrics to view them as sex objects. Shame on you, Muslims. Shame.

Re: Aisha age 6

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:23 am
by ygalg
John Monash wrote:
ygalg wrote:still plays with dolls, suit for a prophet to marry?


Yes, but only if the prophet is a paedophile.

You forgot to mention Ayesha was playing on her swing, and that her mother washed Ayesha's face in readiness to be sexually molested by the 54-year-old slave trader Muhammad (Peace be upon Allah's only apostle).

A mature nine-year-old women does not play on a swing, nor does she get her faced washed by her mother.

Muhammad also mandated "As many slave girls as your right hand possesses"

Has anyone ever wondered how young these child slaves were?

can he manage more than one detail at the time?

Re: Aisha age 6

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:27 am
by ygalg
your comment ahmed2010?

Re: Aisha age 6

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:14 am
by piscohot
a 50 year old man getting a hardon looking at a 9 year old girl and 1.5billion people think there is nothing wrong with the guy?

It doesn't matter which era you are from.

Re: Aisha age 6

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:58 pm
by Mr Preet
ahmed wrote:Therefore, this should be no reason to hate the Prophet.


No ahmed, you've got it all wrong! You don't even know what hit you do you? It is written all over the face of this site. Since you are new I'll gice you the picture:
You see, Islam rears its ugly Satanic head wherever it is found, not only unto its own followers but unto people (like me) who wants to be left alone. I don't mind to be labelled as filthy, devoid-of-understanding kafir as long as they don't translate into something physical. Islam and Muslim will never leave me alone, the Hate Manual guarantees that. Thus churches gets bombed, burnt or reazed to the ground. Innocent people slaughtered. Statues bombed.... blah-blah-blah.

That has been the background since Day 1, the day the Paedo Prophet talked to Satan in a dark cave. The world has never been the same since. Thus far criticism of Islam has always been surpressed either by death or by banning (in the case of printed materials) but this does not mean that all is well with Islam. With the advent of the internet all hell breaks loose. The information explosion has exposed Islam mercilessly. What YOU bragged about ALL THESE YEARS turn out to be false. Islam is no better than the very religion/people/faith/belief that it condemn!!! Islam is all wind, well not even wind but fart winds .... as in fartwas being issued from time to time! Islam is far from being a miracle! It condemns people who revere objects such as crucifix, cows, sun, fire etc but Muslims themselves worship black meteorite stones and the stupid black cube! Islam is synonymous with hypocricy! Muslims are the greatest of all hypocrites!!! That's what you are!!!

Now, coming to your "perfect man" prophet, Muhammad. He cheated, massacred, looted, slept with little girls ...... he was far from being a perfect man that ever walked the face of this earth as what you all claim.

That's what hit you! Islam is nothing but lies! Which god says you can rob and loot as long as 20% is given to him? It is only in Islam that sins and crimes abhorred even by pagans are made into divine deeds .

Now please wake up and find out for yourself. Go to the various sites, order books, migrate to kuffar countries.... see other cultures. Then take a good long look at Islam!

Wasalammm!

Re: Aisha age 6

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:27 pm
by ahmed2010
manfred wrote:dear ahmed,

I have some questions...

1) Would you find a 6 to 9 year old girl sexually attractive? Is it normal to see a 9 yar old girl as a potential sex-partner?



What is normal today might not be normal tomorrow. What was normal to hang gays in Britan only a few decades ago is abnormal today.
Marrying girls at 6 was normal in Prophet's society. Nobody objected at that time. It is normal to marry young girls in some countries even today.
Who are we do decide what is nomal for other people. That would be tyranny and arrogance. We should not judge others on our own ever changing laws.

2) You mention that Aisha started menstuating. Does that mean she was emotionally and even physically ready for a life-time commitment to a marriage? A nine year old cannot commit a crime or enter into a contract to buy something, and yet she can consent to marriage? How did Mohammed know that Aisha gave her consent to the marriage and to sexual intercourse? Do you know that sexual experiences by very young girls can very often lead to permanent emotional and psychological damage, and also to physical damage? How many children did Aisha bear Mohammed?


Aisha gave her consent to her father to marry the Prophet. Abu Bakr persuaded her and she agreed.
If a father is willing to marry his daughter and she agrees, then there is no problem in Islam.

Yes sex at six can cause psychological damage. But thats only in rare occasions. Most girls are fine. Thats a scientific fact.
Lots of things CAN cause a lot of things. So what. For some women sex at sixty can also cause damage. What does that prove? Nothing.

Re: Aisha age 6

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:28 pm
by John Monash
ahmed2010 wrote:Yes sex at six can cause psychological damage. But thats only in rare occasions. Most girls are fine. Thats a scientific fact.


Dear Ahmed, did I read correctly, It's "a scientific fact" that most six-year-old girls are "fine" after having sex?

I truly feel sorry for you.

Re: Aisha age 6

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:41 pm
by expozIslam
ahmed2010 wrote:
manfred wrote:dear ahmed,

I have some questions...

1) Would you find a 6 to 9 year old girl sexually attractive? Is it normal to see a 9 yar old girl as a potential sex-partner?



What is normal today might not be normal tomorrow. What was normal to hang gays in Britan only a few decades ago is abnormal today.

hey does that also mean that Quran was for Mo's time only because otherwise how can he be a role model for all humans for all times if he did things that could be done only during his age.
ahmed2010 wrote:Marrying girls at 6 was normal in Prophet's society. Nobody objected at that time. It is normal to marry young girls in some countries even today.

Aisha's dad did object but Mo overruled him. Abu Bakr for who knows what reason agreed to give Aisha's hand to Mo but what was your Prophet thinking when he had wet dreams about aisha ?
ahmed2010 wrote:Who are we do decide what is nomal for other people. That would be tyranny and arrogance.

Thank you very much for confirming that Quran is full of tyranny and arrogance because that is what it does. It decides what people should be doing and how non-muslims are hell bound just for not followingt that bloody pedophile.
ahmed2010 wrote:We should not judge others on our own ever changing laws.

and remain stuck in 7th century :roflmao: like islamic societies are.
ahmed2010 wrote:
2) You mention that Aisha started menstuating. Does that mean she was emotionally and even physically ready for a life-time commitment to a marriage? A nine year old cannot commit a crime or enter into a contract to buy something, and yet she can consent to marriage? How did Mohammed know that Aisha gave her consent to the marriage and to sexual intercourse? Do you know that sexual experiences by very young girls can very often lead to permanent emotional and psychological damage, and also to physical damage? How many children did Aisha bear Mohammed?


Aisha gave her consent to her father to marry the Prophet. Abu Bakr persuaded her and she agreed.

Try this at home just to learn. Ask a 6 year old if she would marry a 54 year old. You will understand a lot about kids.
ahmed2010 wrote:If a father is willing to marry his daughter and she agrees, then there is no problem in Islam.

and that is why we say Islam promotes pedophilia and that is why there are 80 year old arabs going after 8 year old girls.
ahmed2010 wrote:Yes sex at six can cause psychological damage. But thats only in rare occasions. Most girls are fine. Thats a scientific fact.

so, I assume you would have no problem in getting the girls of 6-9 years of age in your family married off to 50+ year olds.
ahmed2010 wrote:Lots of things CAN cause a lot of things. So what. For some women sex at sixty can also cause damage. What does that prove? Nothing.

It proves that your islamic morality has numbed your thought process and that you cannot differentiate right from wrong but thank you for being atleast honest about Aisha's age being 6. Very few muslims have the courage to tell that. They are so ashamed of what their beloved prophet did to a 6 year old girl that they try to up-age her.

Re: Aisha age 6

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:47 am
by farside

Re: Aisha age 6

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:53 am
by piscohot
ahmed2010 wrote:Aisha gave her consent to her father to marry the Prophet. Abu Bakr persuaded her and she agreed.
If a father is willing to marry his daughter and she agrees, then there is no problem in Islam.


Aisha gave her consent?
Abu Bakr PERSUADED her?
Abu Bakr willingly marry his daughter?

You and AhmedBahgat and most of those trying to defend islam here have one thing in common....... you just cannot resist lying.

Re: Aisha age 6

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:56 pm
by Mr Preet
ahmed wrote:Who are we do decide what is nomal for other people. That would be tyranny and arrogance. We should not judge others on our own ever changing laws.


See what I mean by hypocrisy? Islam it is that forces itself unto others and its followers make doubly sure it does. Who are you to come to the West and demand to be respected, tolerated and to be served failing which you burn cars, effigies and flags.

Re: Aisha age 6

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:47 pm
by KufirbintKufr
Either this hadith is a fake or Aisha reached puberty before her marriage. Or I dont get something.

Narrated 'Aisha: (the wife of the Prophet) I had seen my parents following Islam since I attained the age of puberty. Not a day passed but the Prophet visited us, both in the mornings and evenings. My father Abii Bakr thought of building a mosque in the courtyard of his house and he did so. He used to pray and recite the Qur'an in it. The pagan women and their children used to stand by him and look at him with surprise. Abu Bakr was a Softhearted person and could not help weeping while reciting the Quran. The chiefs of the Quraish pagans became afraid of that (i.e. that their children and women might be affected by the recitation of Quran)." (Book #8, Hadith #465)


http://www.searchtruth.com/searchHadith ... k=&start=0

Re: Aisha age 6

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:50 am
by Cassie
KufirbintKufr wrote:Either this hadith is a fake or Aisha reached puberty before her marriage. Or I dont get something.

Narrated 'Aisha: (the wife of the Prophet) I had seen my parents following Islam since I attained the age of puberty. Not a day passed but the Prophet visited us, both in the mornings and evenings. My father Abii Bakr thought of building a mosque in the courtyard of his house and he did so. He used to pray and recite the Qur'an in it. The pagan women and their children used to stand by him and look at him with surprise. Abu Bakr was a Softhearted person and could not help weeping while reciting the Quran. The chiefs of the Quraish pagans became afraid of that (i.e. that their children and women might be affected by the recitation of Quran)." (Book #8, Hadith #465)


http://www.searchtruth.com/searchHadith ... k=&start=0

This is a mistranslation. Besides, Aisha was born AFTER Abu Bakr converted to Islam. Would this mean that Aisha reached puberty before she was even born? Hard to believe.

Re: Aisha age 6

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:33 am
by mohd_kafir
ahmed2010 wrote:
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Yes sex at six can cause psychological damage. But that's only in rare occasions. Most girls are fine. Thats a scientific fact.


Absolutely! This is a well established scientific fact. In fact, I do have the peer-reviewed Al-Journal of Pedophilia published by the Roy-al Univeristy of Makkah, that carries the seminal work done by Sheik Pedo-feeluddin (PBUH). For those who insist, I can scan and post this authentic scientific publication. I swear on Al-lah that this is true!

ahmed2010 wrote:Lots of things CAN cause a lot of things. So what. For some women sex at sixty can also cause damage. What does that prove? Nothing.


Yep. No wonder 20%Profit-Muhammed-been-layin'-a9year-old didn't go for any sixty year old chicks. He surely didn't want to cause any damage to anyone. May Al-lah bless his soul.

Re: Aisha age 6

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:43 pm
by Mr Preet
Yep. No wonder 20%Profit-Muhammed-been-layin'-a9year-old didn't go for any sixty year old chicks. He surely didn't want to cause any damage to anyone. May Al-lah bless his soul.

:D He didn't go for these women because they keep giving up their turn to little Ayesha. Besides, their well were all dried up and petroleum jelly was not available then.

Re: Aisha age 6

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:24 pm
by ixolite
ahmed2010 wrote:Prophet Muhammed, peace be upon him, married Aisha when she was 6 years old. But she did not come to live with him until 9.

Some girls mature early. At the age of 9, Aisha was a full woman. At time of marriage she was not mature enough.
Therfore, Prophet said to her father, Abu Bakr, that she can remain in her own house until she begins to mensurates. When she did, Prophet called her over and she remained with him until his death.
People in those days used to marry off their girls very early. If you look at different nations at the time, girls got wedded in early teen age years.
Even today, some non-Islamic nations permit early marriages.

Therefore, this should be no reason to hate the Prophet.

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Is it too much to ask to use the search function before posting? There are countless threads dealing with this already. :sleeping:

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