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Re: MUHAMMAD AND MADINAH IN THE BIBLE

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:07 pm
by glitch
manfred wrote:Here is the opening part of Isaiah that your clip mentions:

“Here is my servant, whom I uphold,
my chosen one in whom I delight;
I will put my Spirit on him,
and he will bring justice to the nations.
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He will not shout or cry out,
or raise his voice in the streets.
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A bruised reed he will not break,
and a smoldering wick he will not snuff out.
In faithfulness he will bring forth justice;
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he will not falter or be discouraged
till he establishes justice on earth.
In his teaching the islands will put their hope.”


Muhammad never left Arabia.... oh is this after the fact,.
He yelled constantly--he destroyed constantly. His form of justice was to Torture people he killed.
He faltered constantly. He was discouraged when he didn't know that God had spoke.

What Islands put their hope in him?

Re: MUHAMMAD ﷺ AND MADINAH IN THE BIBLE

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:16 am
by Hombre
Takeiteasynow wrote:Maybe not literally - but the name Muhammad refers to the qualities of the final Messiah in Jewish eschatology. The one who brings the new and final kingdom is also known as the 'blessed one' or 'anointed one 'and the Muhammad derives from the Arab root of 'to bless'
Every Sunday hundreds of Pastors at the end of each prayer they "bless" their community. Shouldn't church-going Christians be also "The blessed one"?

Re: MUHAMMAD ﷺ AND MADINAH IN THE BIBLE

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:52 am
by Hombre
Takeiteasynow wrote:
You claim that Islamic Muhammad was a Jewish leader, born in Galilee, son of Julius. You make them more stupid, id*ot, moron...


LOL. Actually the evidence is overwhelming and the reconstruction from Arabian, Persian, Maronite, Jewish, Christian sources is almost completed. The adventures of this Jewish leader are very well documented, especially the diplomatic communication between the Exilarch, Isfahan, Tiberias and Kosra II, the Sassanid king of Persia, which explains how this all started.

The underlying issue with traditional scholarship is enormous. A lack of consistent and modern methodologies for data analysis produces a lot of bad results, as if they adhere to dogmatic religious templates and prefer to quote other scholars who merely guess or speculate. Basically comparative historical research, historical social research and historiography produce not much more than what can be described with a rather dirty four-letter word. This may include other disciplines in social science.

But Mr. Sam, there's always a choice. You can have a real prophet that becomes, step-by-step the Islamic Muhammad as servant of the one true god. The consequence is that the hatred verses from the tradition become irrelevant. The other option is that there will be nothing left - and don't be mistaken: nothing.

No worries, I know what you would choose. You're to dogmatic to change. That's why I will choose for you.
takeiteasy
Much like manfred's posts, your posts as well, are very thoughtful and well written. I truly enjoy reading your take on these topics. However, the problem is, your level of conversation is WAY WAY over SAM's skull. You need to talk to him in a different language & tone which he understands - Like the one below.

Re: MUHAMMAD ﷺ AND MADINAH IN THE BIBLE

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:04 am
by Hombre
SAM wrote:
This is a bunch of rubish with no head and no leg to speak for itself. Only delusional would hallucinate such a bizzar & (as Manford said) unsustainable theory.

We all know that for the past 1400 years Islam has been desperately attempting to gain legitimacy as 'original & authentic religion". One tactic is to tether Muhammad to Jewish prophets and scholars.

The biggest and most laughable claim is their claim that Abraham - all the way to Jesus - being the last known (and credible), religious leader - they all were preaching Islam, as though it is Islam - not Jewish, nor Christianity as the original religions is the region.

SAM
Go back to your grazing pasture of la la land and stay there.

Re: MUHAMMAD ﷺ AND MADINAH IN THE BIBLE

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:20 am
by SAM

Re: MUHAMMAD AND MADINAH IN THE BIBLE

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:39 am
by BaigZaheer
manfred wrote:But do Muslims claim Mohammed to be the Messiah? Is he some sort of eschatological figure?
Also Isaiah says that this Messiah is a descendant of David, and obviously, therefore, not an Arab.


No, Manfred.

Muslims have no place for a Messiah and Allah did not promise them any Messiah in Qur'aan. Pagan Arabs were always a free people back then. Only the Hebrews needed a Messiah (deliverer). Moses led them out.

The word Messiah (Mashiach) cannot be found in the entire Jewish Tanakh.

There is no Jesus in Isaiah, which is all about the servant Israel (Jacob). One cannot find Jesus in the entire Tanakh.

Re: MUHAMMAD ﷺ AND MADINAH IN THE BIBLE

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:45 am
by Hombre
SAM wrote:
you are not impressing -nor convincing anyone here with your rubbish. As long as we know more about YOUR religion then you know about OUR respective religions, you need to shut up - read and learn.

Re: MUHAMMAD ﷺ AND MADINAH IN THE BIBLE

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:20 am
by manfred
Mohammed is not found in any biblical text, neither the Hebrew bible no any NT text.

As to Mohammed being the "paraclete", please look here:



"And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor (allon parakleton) to be with you forever - the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you." John 14:16-17

"But the Counselor (de parakletos), the Holy Spirit (pneuma to hagion), whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you." John 14:26

"When the Counselor (ho parakletos) comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me." John 15:26

"But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor (ho parakletos) will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you." John 16:7


So Mohammed was a "comforter" and a SPIRIT sent by Jesus to the apostles? When exactly did Mohammed live, SAM? Was he a human being or a spirit? What "comfort" does Mohammed bring?

Re: MUHAMMAD ﷺ AND MADINAH IN THE BIBLE

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:45 pm
by SAM
manfred wrote:Mohammed is not found in any biblical text, neither the Hebrew bible no any NT text.


The Israelites had been told in advance about Muhammad's arrival through the Signs, from Allah through their prophets. As it is written in their Torah and Injil, not NT.

They are famous for predictions, prophecies, and read the signs spoken by the prophets among them (Jacob, Moses, Isaiah, etc.). And Jesus was the last Jewish prophet who told the name of the last prophet they were waiting for . He mentioned Ahmad, as stated in Quran 61:6. Since then they have followed in the trails until they took themselves to Yathrib (Medina.). Quran 61:6 it is part of the genuine Injil

Bear in your mind that Yathrib was not promised land for them. They are illegitimate immigrants in Arab lands.. :lol:

As to Mohammed being the "paraclete", please look here:

"And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor (allon parakleton) to be with you forever - the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you." John 14:16-17

"But the Counselor (de parakletos), the Holy Spirit (pneuma to hagion), whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you." John 14:26

"When the Counselor (ho parakletos) comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me." John 15:26

"But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor (ho parakletos) will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you." John 16:7
Who the f*ck is Jesus asking the Father to send another Counsel. He has no authority to speak for himself without God's approval. Even though he is a son of God. :yuk:

This writer has made a defamation and slander against Jesus, this verse is corrupted and man-made text.

Jesus said, "For I have not spoken on my own authority, but the Father who sent me has himself given me a commandment—what to say and what to speak." [John 12:49]

So Mohammed was a "comforter" and a SPIRIT sent by Jesus to the apostles? When exactly did Mohammed live, SAM? Was he a human being or a spirit? What "comfort" does Mohammed bring?
The true Muhammad neither Comforter nor Holy Spirit nor Human Being. That's why he forbade his image. Guess who he is?

Re: MUHAMMAD ﷺ AND MADINAH IN THE BIBLE

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:08 am
by manfred
SAM I am getting tired of answer all this daft stuff you post. So I keep it short.

The true Muhammad neither Comforter nor Holy Spirit nor Human Being. That's why he forbade his image. Guess who he is?


So you agree that John is certainly NOT talking about Mohammed. He speaks of a "spirit" who is been sent to the apostles, and not to some people centuries later. This "spirit" was evident during the lifetime of John, as for those who understand his writings, is still with us today. This is also pointed out by several NT authors, but as you are talking about John:
1 John 2:27

As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him.


Mohammed was a man. He is dead. He surely was no "comforter", no spirit, nor did he or does he dwell in anyone. As to the image thing, that is an hadith issue which I am not sure the other Muslims here would generally support. Maybe he ordered that or maybe it was later people suggesting that. The fact is that there are many depictions of Mohammed from early Islam.

You want a "guess who he is"? He WAS a quite ruthless warlord who was very good at manipulating people. He was also a very greedy man and a sexual predator. That was the true Mohammed. Now he is just some dust in a box. That is the reality.

The Mohammed you have made into your idol and the one you worship so blindly is not real.

And your nonsense about Israel really does not deserve a reply.

Re: MUHAMMAD ﷺ AND MADINAH IN THE BIBLE

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:40 am
by SAM
manfred wrote:SAM I am getting tired of answer all this daft stuff you post. So I keep it short.

I'm more bored with you and others who are always circling the same argument and debate, which is why I prefer to mock, scold, ridicule, poke fun directly to their faces.

So you agree that John is certainly NOT talking about Mohammed. He speaks of a "spirit" who is been sent to the apostles, and not to some people centuries later. This "spirit" was evident during the lifetime of John, as for those who understand his writings, is still with us today. This is also pointed out by several NT authors, but as you are talking about John:
1 John 2:27

As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him.
Tell me Manny, which one is John? Who wrote the Gospel of John almost a century after Jesus' death?

John the Baptist died in the time of Jesus, as stated in Matthew 14:11-12 The Beheading of John.

"John’s head was brought in on a platter and presented to the girl, who carried it to her mother. Then John’s disciples came and took his body and buried it. And they went and informed Jesus."

Is it John the Apostle, or another John who has never met Jesus.

Mohammed was a man. He is dead. He surely was no "comforter", no spirit, nor did he or does he dwell in anyone. As to the image thing, that is an hadith issue which I am not sure the other Muslims here would generally support. Maybe he ordered that or maybe it was later people suggesting that. The fact is that there are many depictions of Mohammed from early Islam.

According to the Quran, there is no mention of Jesus asking God to send another Holy Spirit, Comforter, etc.. Jesus, clearly mentioned the name of Ahmad directly to the Jews, as stated in the Qur'an 61:6. Unlike the prophets before him who gave signs.

You want a "guess who he is"? He WAS a quite ruthless warlord who was very good at manipulating people. He was also a very greedy man and a sexual predator. That was the true Mohammed. Now he is just some dust in a box. That is the reality.

The Mohammed you have made into your idol and the one you worship so blindly is not real.
Muhammad was mentioned in the time of Adam, after he was fully created by Allah.


And your nonsense about Israel really does not deserve a reply.

You already know about the Israelites who have been told beforehand about the coming of Muhammad through the Signs, from Allah. Qur'an [7:157]: " the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own Scriptures, in the Torah and the Gospel ... "

Truth Hurts...

Re: MUHAMMAD ﷺ AND MADINAH IN THE BIBLE

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:06 am
by manfred
Your argument was that Mohammed was mentioned in the bible, specifically in John's gospel. This is nonsense, and you yourself have in a round about way admitted that.

John the Baptist died in the time of Jesus, as stated in Matthew 14:11-12 The Beheading of John.
"John’s head was brought in on a platter and presented to the girl, who carried it to her mother. Then John’s disciples came and took his body and buried it. And they went and informed Jesus."


Obviously neither the letters of John nor the gospel were written by John the baptist... you really are exposing your profound ignorance of Christian texts suggesting that.

The Letters of John and the gospel are traditionally attributed to apostle John, whereas the book of revelation is most likely by a different writer also called John.

In reality we do not know exactly who wrote these texts, but the most likely scenario is that John the apostle had an input in them, at least. John the apostle would have been in his middle eighties when the texts were written, so possibly he had help. What we do know that the text most likely dates from some 50-65 years after the death of Jesus, and that John the apostle was very young when Jesus died so the traditional account is not impossible.

You cannot have it both ways... first you present John's gospel, the furthest you can get from Islam, as a source for Mohammed and then you say its not reliable anyway.

I'm more bored with you and others who are always circling the same argument and debate, which is why I prefer to mock, scold, ridicule, poke fun directly to their faces.


If you are bored, run along and go elsewhere. And I told you clearly what I will do if your manners get bad.

According to the Quran...


You need to first establish why the Qur'an is more reliable than, say the "daVinci Code". Anyone can invent "signs" of the kind the Qur'an mentions. Did it never occur to you that Mohammed's tales merely were told to aid Mohammed?

Re: MUHAMMAD ﷺ AND MADINAH IN THE BIBLE

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:52 pm
by Fernando
Hombre wrote:We all know that for the past 1400 years Islam has been desperately attempting to gain legitimacy as 'original & authentic religion". One tactic is to tether Muhammad to Jewish prophets and scholars.

The biggest and most laughable claim is their claim that Abraham - all the way to Jesus - being the last known (and credible), religious leader - they all were preaching Islam, as though it is Islam - not Jewish, nor Christianity as the original religions is the region.
And as a result, we get this kind of thing:
School which taught that only Muslims were saved on Noah's Ark is first to be fined for opening illegally
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/10/24/school-taught-muslims-saved-noahs-ark-becomes-first-prosecuted/

Re: MUHAMMAD ﷺ AND MADINAH IN THE BIBLE

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:33 pm
by SAM
manfred wrote:Your argument was that Mohammed was mentioned in the bible, specifically in John's gospel. This is nonsense, and you yourself have in a round about way admitted that.

John the Baptist died in the time of Jesus, as stated in Matthew 14:11-12 The Beheading of John.
"John’s head was brought in on a platter and presented to the girl, who carried it to her mother. Then John’s disciples came and took his body and buried it. And they went and informed Jesus."


Obviously neither the letters of John nor the gospel were written by John the baptist... you really are exposing your profound ignorance of Christian texts suggesting that.

The Letters of John and the gospel are traditionally attributed to apostle John, whereas the book of revelation is most likely by a different writer also called John.

In reality we do not know exactly who wrote these texts, but the most likely scenario is that John the apostle had an input in them, at least. John the apostle would have been in his middle eighties when the texts were written, so possibly he had help. What we do know that the text most likely dates from some 50-65 years after the death of Jesus, and that John the apostle was very young when Jesus died so the traditional account is not impossible.

You cannot have it both ways... first you present John's gospel, the furthest you can get from Islam, as a source for Mohammed and then you say its not reliable anyway.


Take a look the texts of John 12:49. "For I have not spoken on my own authority, but the Father who sent me has himself given me a commandment—what to say and what to speak."

Jesus clearly says that he has no authority to speak for himself or to make any such request.

John 14:16 "I will ask the Father and he will give you another Counselor... "
John 15:26 "I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth.."

My question, who is the person who has added, altered, edited, revised, or tampered the text if it is not the author of the Gospel of John. Perhaps John Wayne, John Mccain, John Connor (Terminator) etc.. :lol:

manfred wrote:
I'm more bored with you and others who are always circling the same argument and debate, which is why I prefer to mock, scold, ridicule, poke fun directly to their faces.


If you are bored, run along and go elsewhere. And I told you clearly what I will do if your manners get bad.
:lotpot: My good (bad) attitude makes you and others wiser in discussion and debate, not being fool, id*ot, moron etc

manfred wrote:
According to the Quran...


You need to first establish why the Qur'an is more reliable than, say the "daVinci Code". Anyone can invent "signs" of the kind the Qur'an mentions.

Who can invent "signs", even the Jewish Chief Priests and Levites do not dare to do it.
Did it never occur to you that Mohammed's tales merely were told to aid Mohammed?

In this case it would be better for Muhammad to follow like Paul to create his own life story in the Qur'an. There is no need for him to say the greatness of God, or the life of Jesus, Moses and other prophets.

Re: MUHAMMAD ﷺ AND MADINAH IN THE BIBLE

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:54 pm
by Hombre
SAM wrote:
manfred wrote:Mohammed is not found in any biblical text, neither the Hebrew bible no any NT text.


The Israelites had been told in advance about Muhammad's arrival through the Signs, from Allah through their prophets. As it is written in their Torah and Injil, not NT.


I know, in Torah also "written" that Allah's favourite food is Enchilada because it sounds like Allah.

Show us where in HB or NT, the name "Muhammad" or anything close to that name is mentioned?

On the same argument, We also can claim that the original Qur'an before it was corrupted by Muslims, also mentions the return of Jews to their ancestral land and warns any Muslim who tries to harm them will be punished by Allah.

You are that dumb not realizing that we know enough on Islam to defeat any bogus argument you and your Islamist cohorts can mount. Simple said - you are not smart enough to fool many of us who know better.

So far mughal and BaigZaheer are the only Muslims worthy of respect. Even if we disagree, I still enjoy reading their comments. You need to learn from them how to communicate.

Re: MUHAMMAD ﷺ AND MADINAH IN THE BIBLE

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:23 pm
by manfred
In this case it would be better for Muhammad to follow like Paul to create his own life story in the Qur'an. There is no need for him to say the greatness of God, or the life of Jesus, Moses and other prophets.


SAM, SAM SAM....

You should read what Paul actually taught, and not some Muslim polemic about him. He certainly did not "create his own life story..."

And if you have an interest in any texts of the gospels, I would discuss them with you. But it is obvious that is not the case. Mohammed is not in John's gospel, nor in any NT text, nor in any HB text. It is silly to suggest otherwise, and you have agreed with me on that.

Whatever else you believe about the gospel of John, is off topic.

And you should pay close attention to the teachings of the Qur'an to see what it really is. Compare it with the original texts, its sources. The results will speak loud and clear to you, unless you are too full of self-importance to listen to your own reason. Mohammed recast a number of biblical characters in a certain way. His version varies from the original accounts, often by error, but also sometimes by design. Look at the Islamic Abraham, for example... can you not see the similarities to his own life which Mohammed introduced ? The revised version of Ishmael? All of these serve a purpose. Why did Mohammed reject the crucifixion and resurrection accounts, the central point of Christianity? Simple, if there were true, the Mohammed would be superfluous. Why did he retell, in some way, some biblical stories at all? At various points he wanted to win converts from Christians and Jews. He even changed the Qibla for that reason. Later in life, he gave up on that, so the Qibla went to Mecca, Mohammed's home. If you look at the late surahs then you see the spiritual bankruptcy of Mohammed as clear as day: the hate, the violence he demands, the repetitions, the thinly veiled anger against all and any who do not accept him, all this is not the mind of a man of God. He is deceiving you, SAM, and it is time you wised up to that.

The crassest examples are when Mohammed says Allah commands Mohammed to tell his followers how to behave in his house, how not to ask questions or how "Allah" threatens Mohammed's wives with starvation unless they behave.

Mohammed does not glorify God, he USES "Allah", just as he uses the stories of old from the bible. Allah is less a god, more a servant of Mohammed who "hastens to do his will" as Aisha acutely observed.

He had no real beliefs of his own, but he realised that he could manipulate people by masquerading as a religious leader.

Re: MUHAMMAD ﷺ AND MADINAH IN THE BIBLE

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:00 am
by SAM
manfred wrote:
SAM, SAM SAM....

You should read what Paul actually taught, and not some Muslim polemic about him. He certainly did not "create his own life story..."

And if you have an interest in any texts of the gospels, I would discuss them with you. But it is obvious that is not the case. Mohammed is not in John's gospel, nor in any NT text, nor in any HB text. It is silly to suggest otherwise, and you have agreed with me on that.
Paul believed his message to be divine. He wrote.
If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord (1 Corinthians 14:37).
Paul spoke of "my gospel."
Now to him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ (Romans 16:25).


Whatever else you believe about the gospel of John, is off topic.
Truth hurts, N.T is man-made texts and full of corrupted.

And you should pay close attention to the teachings of the Qur'an to see what it really is. Compare it with the original texts, its sources. The results will speak loud and clear to you, unless you are too full of self-importance to listen to your own reason. Mohammed recast a number of biblical characters in a certain way. His version varies from the original accounts, often by error, but also sometimes by design. Look at the Islamic Abraham, for example... can you not see the similarities to his own life which Mohammed introduced ? The revised version of Ishmael? All of these serve a purpose. Why did Mohammed reject the crucifixion and resurrection accounts, the central point of Christianity? Simple, if there were true, the Mohammed would be superfluous. Why did he retell, in some way, some biblical stories at all? At various points he wanted to win converts from Christians and Jews. He even changed the Qibla for that reason. Later in life, he gave up on that, so the Qibla went to Mecca, Mohammed's home. If you look at the late surahs then you see the spiritual bankruptcy of Mohammed as clear as day: the hate, the violence he demands, the repetitions, the thinly veiled anger against all and any who do not accept him, all this is not the mind of a man of God. He is deceiving you, SAM, and it is time you wised up to that.
You only see explicit things, but not esotericism in the Quran.

The crassest examples are when Mohammed says Allah commands Mohammed to tell his followers how to behave in his house, how not to ask questions or how "Allah" threatens Mohammed's wives with starvation unless they behave.

Mohammed does not glorify God, he USES "Allah", just as he uses the stories of old from the bible. Allah is less a god, more a servant of Mohammed who "hastens to do his will" as Aisha acutely observed.

He had no real beliefs of his own, but he realised that he could manipulate people by masquerading as a religious leader.
But there are still many infidels who want to embrace Islam, like Sinéad O'Connor. Christianity is slowly dying.. :lol:

Re: MUHAMMAD ﷺ AND MADINAH IN THE BIBLE

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:45 am
by BaigZaheer
SAM wrote:Paul believed his message to be divine. He wrote.

If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord (1 Corinthians 14:37).
Paul spoke of "my gospel."

Now to him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ (Romans 16:25).

He had no real beliefs of his own, but he realised that he could manipulate people by masquerading as a religious leader.


But there are still many infidels who want to embrace Islam, like Sinéad O'Connor. Christianity is slowly dying.. :lol:


Paul's note in Galatians 1:8 is striking as the four writers of the gospels stand accursed under his Galatians 1:8 Clause:

But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse!


It also shows that there was not a single gospel till 65 AD, while he was on his preaching spree.

Re: MUHAMMAD ﷺ AND MADINAH IN THE BIBLE

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:21 am
by Centaur
But there are still many infidels who want to embrace Islam, like Sinéad O'Connor. Christianity is slowly dying..

A mentally troubled irreligious person accepts Islam without knowing anything about it or believing all the lies she might have heard about it thru the left leaning media like peace blah blah and Muslims celebrates like there is no tomorrow.In the meantime people with better iq who studied and promoted Islam for enough finally saw the evil side of Mo and Islam and leaves it.Unlike Christianity Mohammedanism is built on fear and suppression of freedom of speech as practiced by Mo who sent assassins to behead his critiques. Internet has the potential to wipe out Mohammedanism.Muslim countries know it and that is why they put pressure on social n/w to suppress free speech and thought. Islam will fall its a question of not if but when.

Re: MUHAMMAD ﷺ AND MADINAH IN THE BIBLE

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:14 pm
by BaigZaheer
SAM wrote:In this case it would be better for Muhammad to follow like Paul to create his own life story in the Qur'an. There is no need for him to say the greatness of God, or the life of Jesus, Moses and other prophets.


Good point and that is what Muhammad did not do what Paul did.