MUHAMMAD ﷺ AND MADINAH IN THE BIBLE

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Hombre wrote:You met Israelis - I live among them. Who said any holocaust survivor forgave what the Nazi had done to him or his family. ?
And you must admit that I am telling the truth that Israel will not forgive the crime and evils of European Christians what they have done to Jews before, since the Roman Emperor Constantine. :wink:
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Christians = Nazis and Nazis=Christians?

You do know that the grand mufti of Jerusalem colluded with the Nazis to exterminate the Jews in Palestine, and that the Nazis said that Islam is very similar to their own ideology?
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manfred wrote:Christians = Nazis and Nazis=Christians?

You do know that the grand mufti of Jerusalem colluded with the Nazis to exterminate the Jews in Palestine, and that the Nazis said that Islam is very similar to their own ideology?
And you do not know JEWS, ZIONISM, AND ISRAEL

We must force the Gentile government to accept measures that will increase the plan that we have made that is getting closer to its goal by putting pressure on the public opinion that we have scheduled that must be encouraged by us with the help of what is called 'great power' . With a few exceptions, there's no need to think too much, that power is in our hands. (Seventh Zionist Protocol)

Throwing out the moneyless residents out of the borders (Palestine) by refusing jobs ... Both processes, both eliminating them from the ownership and expulsion of the poor, must be carried out in a very careful manner and with caution. (Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, which talks about the Arab-Palestinian nation, appointed from the Complete Diaries of Theodore Herzl, entry on June 12, 1895).

"We must use terror, murder, intimidation, seizure, and termination of all social services to cleanse the land of Galilee from the Arab population." (Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum", 1978)

And much more if you want me to post here. :coffee:
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The Koenig report was produced in an Israel faced with large scale Arab immigration, which had the political aim to "drive the Jews into the sea" as Arafat put it. It was a party document.

And it does not contain the calls to violence you "quote". Here is a summary:
To preclude any possibility of an (independent, Arab) political union, Koenig recommended building more Jewish settlements in areas that are predominantly Arab.
Hostile Arab leaders should be replaced by compliant ones, whom Israel was to ‘create.’ Koenig wanted the number of Arab intellectuals reduced, because their frustration is potentially dangerous. He would encourage "the channeling of [Arab] students into technical professions, the physical and natural sciences. These studies leave less time for dabbling in nationalism and the dropout rate is higher." Koenig wanted to make it easier for Arabs to study abroad and harder for them to return and find jobs. Graduates who did remain in Israel were to be coopted.
Koenig also proposed mounting a smear campaign against Arab activists, reducing liquid savings to limit funds available in the Arab community to support political causes, and reducing the effectiveness of Arab student organizations.[10]

Further elements in the memorandum included Koenig's reflection that, "Social and economic security free the individual and the family from economic worries ... and give him, consciously and subconsciously, leisure time for social and nationalistic thoughts that are exploited by hostile elements to generate ferment and bitterness." As one practical measure to help obviate this end, Koenig proposed "neutralizing grants to large families.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koenig_Memorandum" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


and the full text is here, published by a "Palestinian", si you can check for yourself:

https://www.paljourneys.org/sites/defau ... randum.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It always had many critics in Israel because of the language used. It is however the right of any country to find defences against being overrun by invaders, armed or otherwise.

And "Zionism" is that outrageous notion that Jews should have their country back, a tiny piece in a sea of backwards Muslim countries.

It is really quite silly for Muslims to play the victims again, as usual. They want to destroy the state of Israel, and the people of Israel should watch and let ot happen?
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SAM wrote:And you must admit that I am telling the truth that Israel will not forgive the crime and evils of European Christians what they have done to Jews before, since the Roman Emperor Constantine. :wink:
Israel's mantra vis-a-vis Europe: "Forgive - never forget". Just examine Israel's relationship with Europe in general, and with Germany in particular.

Imagine that Jews would have followed the Palestinian example and remain in Refugee camps - yell, whine and cry for what German did to them. You use your own limited imagination.

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