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Divine or not divine?

Postby Fernando » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:34 am

We all know that Muslims worship Mohammed but will never admit to it. Now it seems that even the purist Saudis have come close to confessing. An article says that they extradited Hamza Kashgari
after he tweeted that the Prophet was merely inspirational, not divine.
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/07/17/why_is_saudi_arabia_beefing_up_its_blasphemy_laws_0
I thought at first that this was just journalistic license, but according to Google most accounts quote the critical bit of his tweeting as being
that you’ve always been a source of inspiration to me, and that I do not like the halos of divinity around you.
Now I'd I've thought that the Wahabi's would consider that a sentiment worthy a few extra virgins (or at least another handful of raisins) in the afterlife. But seemingly not.
So: who are the misunderstanders of Islam, the press or the Saudis?
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Re: Divine or not divine?

Postby marduk » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:58 pm

Well well, the Saudis have taken to worshiping Muhammad as their god. We've heard enough. Are we going to protect a nation who assigns divinity to aught besides Allah? I thought not. Go get 'em Iran. Just give us half the oil.
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Re: Divine or not divine?

Postby Jimi » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:22 pm

Mohammed is the most important man in Islam and Allah is secondary. Emulating mo (allahs prayer be on him) is the way to Islamic paradise. Mo can intercede for beleivers. Mo is not bound by allahs laws. After mo died Allah fell silent. And mo is the most important prophet. Beleivers are to love the prophet more than their wife and children. And it is better you say something about them than say anything that can be seen as negative about Mo (Allah's prayers be on him).

Right and wrong is defined by Mohammed's actions, not be the golden rule or common sense. One would not come to the Islamic conclusions for behaviour in 10000000 years with out the example of mo. on the other hand in buhdism for example, you could come to the same conclusions without any help from buhdism. It says just be cool with people and animals.
Mohammed and his sock puppet know best
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Re: Divine or not divine?

Postby ringmaster » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:40 pm

marduk wrote:Well well, the Saudis have taken to worshiping Muhammad as their god. We've heard enough. Are we going to protect a nation who assigns divinity to aught besides Allah? I thought not. Go get 'em Iran. Just give us half the oil.


Just half the oil?

We should simply go in and take all of it. In fact, instead of going into Afghanistan, we should have done that in 2001.
The prophet of Islam was nothing more than a common criminal.

Please tell me if this is accurate:

“I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken.”
~MUHAMMAD (Al-Tabari 6:111)
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Re: Divine or not divine?

Postby marduk » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:33 pm

ringmaster wrote:
marduk wrote:Well well, the Saudis have taken to worshiping Muhammad as their god. We've heard enough. Are we going to protect a nation who assigns divinity to aught besides Allah? I thought not. Go get 'em Iran. Just give us half the oil.


Just half the oil?

We should simply go in and take all of it. In fact, instead of going into Afghanistan, we should have done that in 2001.


True, once the Kaaba is destroyed Muslims will be in a state of confusion. The Black Stone being destroyed will be a major improvement itself. One less abomination in the world is always good. Must do to the Kaaba what Abraham did to his father's idol shop, destroy it. The Kaaba is, after all, an idol shop, or at least it was for a very long time. Now it's down to a single idol, the stone presumably being Allah, the chief Kaaba god. If it isn't Allah then why would it be in the House of Allah? Name one other stone which was adored in such a manner by the Jews. There are none, for the obvious reason that it would immediately be identified as an idol. The first time something bad happened to the Jews they would blame it on the stone angering God. Arabs aren't as smart as Jews. Muslims around the world are being punished by God with miserable lives in miserable countries but they just can't figure out that the Stone is the problem. Couldn't possibly be the idol that Muhammad kissed. That would mean that Muhammad was just a common idol worshiping Arab instead of the 8th heathen prophet.
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