female circumcision originmal post

[austoricus]

I am trying to find the original post for

p=918332

The document appears in http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/s ... hp?t=45270 from 2006

can anybody help.

It is very important.

thanks

[M85]

Hi, this might be what you are looking for. The old archived forum posts are located here -> viewforum.php?f=52

Edit: I'm seeing the 2004-2008 forum link is not working (http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum2/)

Does anyone have the correct link to the old forum?

[Fernando]

Are you sure this interview is real? I reads like fiction written in a factual format.

[Fernando]

Seems I'm not alone in my suspicions.

[–]Yakimo 17 points 3 years ago

This is copy-pasta that pops up all over the net, and is not traceable to any sort of reputable source; it's almost certainly a hoax. Too much about it is off, including but not limited to claiming to use an "alpha wave inducer" which is a fictional device from Star Trek (the description even matches how it appears on the show).

White Slavery and Female Circumcision are absolutely real and very serious problems, but you don't need to read about them in poorly done hoax chain letters.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/xq9ft/disturbing_interview_with_a_saudi_arabian_doctor/c5opoqt
I had my doubts about the alpha-wave thingy but just thought it was likely to be beyond her resources. Doh!

[austoricus]

I too thought it was a hoax but when I looked up http://www.bing.com/search?ei=UTF-8&PC= ... ORM=AVASDF I can see that Alpha Waves are REAL
It might be fictional device from Star Trek but it is for real and was probably copied into StarTrek and not the other way around.
If you look at the document as if it were an interview at a medical conference where there is a detailed explanation of how to re-create such a clinic then it becomes realistic.
You have to remember that Dr. Muzaffar considers that what she is doing is completely legitimate and the norm in Muslim society. There is no doubt in her mind that it is according to Muslim tradition and practice. Certainly other Moslems consider it real. The fact that the clinic is in a corner of Saudi Arabia means that there are possibilities to have clinics in other cities and she is explaining the gold standard. The religious police probably asked her to give the interview.
If it were a hoax it did not achieve its goal. Among so much other material it is just another.

[Fernando]

Alpha waves are real enough - I remember them from when biofeedback was all the rage. But if you search on Bing or Google for
alpha wave anaesthesia
you'll only find the effect of anaesthesia on alpha waves and not the reverse. The reason I was taken in is that I knew a hospital electronics technician who said they had an electronic device (TENS??) for reducing pain locally - nothing like that alleged general effect from application to the head.
The main reason I thought it was a hoax or simple fiction, thought, was the gratuitous detail, including patient name, of the harem and all the unnecessary stuff about how the religious police would capture escapees. Oh and the claim that she did 30 mutilations in a single home visit.
I wasn't around in the old forum but I'm sure there are plenty of genuine gory details available elsewhere e.g. from action groups.

[austoricus]

There are many available theories as to why the post might be a hoax BUT the proof is hidden in this website by looking at the original post which is what I want to find. Once found doubt will be removed.
What you thought was gratuitous detail was in fact the sort of detail given by someone who does NOT care and who probably never expected to find the discussion translated from Arabic into English. The English is far from perfect and seems to be from someone who was trained in the US and cannot spell.
'Oh and the claim that she did 30 mutilations in a single home visit.' This not major surgery and in an eight hour day is four per hour or one every 15 minutes. It can be done by a trained nurse so it is well within the bounds of probability. Quote 'Clitoridectomy is not not a hard thing to learn for the average nurse. '
Saudi Population figures http://worldpopulationreview.com/countr ... opulation/
Year Population Male Population Female Population Density (per sq km) Growth Rate
2015 31,540,372 17,835,910 13,704,462 14 1.9392%
2010 28,090,647 15,819,512 12,271,135 13 2.4537%
2005 24,745,230 13,810,344 10,934,886 11 2.6903%
2000 21,392,272 11,781,937 9,610,336 9 2.8373%
which means 4 million females born between 2000 and 2015 or 300,000 p.a or 6,000 per week. If 25% are circumcised there is a need for plenty of clinics to do the job and that is why I am sure the interview was conducted - to show how to make a first class clinic or train nurses how to do home visits.

PLEASE CAN SOMEONE FIND THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT

[AlexmenCorn]

I tried to reply to a classified ad and it says You have insufficient privileges to reply here.. I know I need 100 posts to post a for sale ad, but do I have to have that to inquire on something too? that sucks if so.

[manfred]

Alex, nobody is allowed to post any for sale ads here.