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Article calling for deporting muslims

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 2:31 pm
by Jimi
From main site

As a Muslim immigrant from an Arabic background, I sincerely, call upon the European and American nations to kick out every Muslim, including myself, even though I love and am loyal the countr

America has a long history of mistreating immigrates to some degree or another. In WW 2 we put americans of Japanese decent in concentration camps. We just are not going to do that anymore (I hope). So the last thing we would do is deport lawful people in our country. This may cause problems and the crappy Muslims can play off it but it is the right thing to do. Sort of like we allow some speech we don't like because that insures the rights of all of us. So we can't single out a group like that no matter how much we don't like what they say or do. Everyone gets due process. Even Muslims.

I think FFI posting articles like this really cheapens the message. It is immigrate bashing and will play into the hands of the jihadi Muslims like CAIR. No one takes people Seriously who would say to deport a group based on religion, sex, national origins, political beliefs.

And if we did it would only strengthen the Muslims. They would say "look at what they do to Muslims". They deport them.

It is the same with the building of mosques. We do not determine our freedoms by the rules of saudia Arabia. We have freedom of religion, period. So when people say we should stop building mosques until saudia Arabia lets churches to be build we would be limited our freedom based on what saudia Arabia does. How is that any differnt than allowing sharia law into the USA?

Re: Article calling for deporting muslims

PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 2:39 pm
by Ariel
Jimi wrote:From main site

As a Muslim immigrant from an Arabic background, I sincerely, call upon the European and American nations to kick out every Muslim, including myself, even though I love and am loyal the countr
?


What a wonderful idea. I think we should consider this. Muslims needs to be on safe ground, and here in the USA and Europe they have a rotten life anyway.

Re: Article calling for deporting muslims

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:57 am
by srinivasan
very confusing

Re: Article calling for deporting muslims

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:04 pm
by Ariel
srinivasan wrote:very confusing


Why srinivasan. Can we help you?

Re: Article calling for deporting muslims

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:39 am
by srinivasan
Ariel wrote:
srinivasan wrote:very confusing


Why srinivasan. Can we help you?


I find at the top of the site

We oppose Islam, not Muslims. We are against hate, not faith

However i also find

May the example of pbuh guild you to the truth.

Islam is peace.




Satirical?

Re: Article calling for deporting muslims

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 8:16 am
by manfred
Hi, on this forum we get people stopping by from all kinds of backgrounds and view. Sometimes also Muslims come to write and chat to us.

"Islam is peace" .... hmmm, do you think Islam is peaceful?

Re: Article calling for deporting muslims

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 8:57 am
by srinivasan
manfred wrote:Hi, on this forum we get people stopping by from all kinds of backgrounds and view. Sometimes also Muslims come to write and chat to us.

"Islam is peace" .... hmmm, do you think Islam is peaceful?

Write and CHAT? Do we have a chatting feature here?

It is madness to organize our lives blindly based on ancient religious fiction.
We have been hurt enormously due to such actions. In my parts of the
Globe, India, as is in many other parts, I am told, it is very risky to be
honest and open.

Re: Article calling for deporting muslims

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:13 am
by Ariel
srinivasan wrote:
I find at the top of the site
We oppose Islam, not Muslims. We are against hate, not faith
However i also find
May the example of pbuh guild you to the truth.
Islam is peace.
Satirical?


You answered a three years old post from our main-site srinivasan. I suspect this comment:
As a Muslim immigrant from an Arabic background, I sincerely, call upon the European and American nations to kick out every Muslim, including myself, even though I love and am loyal the countr

was made by a frustrated Muslim under one or other article. And Jimi gave his opinion. I on the other hand, was making fun of this unknown Muslim and being sarcastic.

Hope this helps? If you have more questions, please ask.

Re: Article calling for deporting muslims

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 3:40 pm
by manfred
Write and CHAT? Do we have a chatting feature here?

It is madness to organize our lives blindly based on ancient religious fiction.
We have been hurt enormously due to such actions. In my parts of the
Globe, India, as is in many other parts, I am told, it is very risky to be
honest and open.


No, we don't have an instant chat feature, but we can dialogue using the forum. And using red in this way means you are angry. What did I do?

And does your statement mean you do not have any religious beliefs of your own?

Re: Article calling for deporting muslims

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:10 pm
by srinivasan
manfred wrote:
Write and CHAT? Do we have a chatting feature here?

It is madness to organize our lives blindly based on ancient religious fiction.
We have been hurt enormously due to such actions. In my parts of the
Globe, India, as is in many other parts, I am told, it is very risky to be
honest and open.


No, we don't have an instant chat feature, but we can dialogue using the forum. And using red in this way means you are angry. What did I do?

And does your statement mean you do not have any religious beliefs of your own?


Thanx for clarification. I will desist using red. Pardon me for the inadvertent error. I believe only in the "GOLDEN RULE". That will suffice for all good.

Re: Article calling for deporting muslims

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:45 pm
by Paladin
Ariel wrote:
Jimi wrote:From main site

As a Muslim immigrant from an Arabic background, I sincerely, call upon the European and American nations to kick out every Muslim, including myself, even though I love and am loyal the countr
?


What a wonderful idea. I think we should consider this. Muslims needs to be on safe ground, and here in the USA and Europe they have a rotten life anyway.


When the **** did this site get infested by the likes of you? This has turned from an anti-Islam site to an indistinguishable hate site thanks to articles written by people who are on the alt-right/white supremacist angle or dangerously close to that. There are ways to dealing with this issue. Propagating the myths of Swedish no-go zones and painting literally every single Muslim as a rapist and murderer, with every single sect of Islam like it is a Wahhabi literalist knock off is just plain disgusting. You are no different than the very people you hate.

Re: Article calling for deporting muslims

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:10 pm
by manfred
Dear Paladin,
perhaps you remember a few years back that Mrs Merkel, the German Chancellor, invited a large number of migrants to come to Germany. It was meant as an act of kindness, from the daughter of a Christian minister. There was the humanitarian concern, first of all, then the troubles the "arrival" countries had, like Greece and Spain, and perhaps also a consideration some suggested that the new arrivals in Germany could boost the employment market and help with the chronic low birth rate.

Did it actually work? If you take a look now, you find that almost none of the new arrivals managed to find a job, very few even tried to learn the language, and almost all still need money and accommodation provided by the state. In general, they live in self-appointed ghettoes, and do not seek any contact with the local population, which the mostly despise... because of their western dress, the kind of things they eat or the consumption of alcohol....

Most of these immigrants are profoundly unhappy. Some have allowed their frustrations to even lead them to crime. And of course this in turn fuels the arguments of the skinheads and neo-nazis.

So I would argue that the idea was a mistake, and I said this at the time. Of course, this result in me being called a "racist" all over the place. However, consider this: If you are a genuine refugee, what kind of place would you seek? I would try to find somewhere where I can speak the language, where I can "fit in" with the culture and the people, where I know and understand the customs. Then I have a chance not be be a nuisance and eventually make a living. Going to an entirely alien culture would be very much harder. Mrs Merkel's desire to help was misguided. She should have invested in helping people in refugee camps or places where they are, instead of providing encouragement to come to a strange land. Also she did not consider that for every Syrian doctor in a German hospital there is one doctor missing in a place that desperately needs them.

Would Muslims not generally be happier in a Muslim country? Can we not find it easier to be tolerant of each other if we are not quite so much involved with each other... As they say... distance makes the heart grow fonder.