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Is he, or isn't he?

Postby torres » Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:40 am

I have a cousin (by marriage), who's originally from Jordan. He claims to be a Christian, but his behavior leads me to believe that he's really a muslim. He won't attend church with his wife, he refused to attend his children's christenings. Recently, I was told that his mom and dad are first cousins (i know that first cousin marriage is acceptable in Islam) and now he's saying he's already chosen his daughters husband (she's currently 5 years old). I'm worried that when this child reaches a certain age, he's going to take her to Jordan to be married. I'm worried that his wife is just going to allow it to happen, since she already obeys him without question. Am I just being paranoid? :ermm:

*I forgot to mention. He's living in the United States
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Re: Is he, or isn't he?

Postby Saif al-Hafle Chai » Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:17 am

Could be taqiyya. Definitely not paranoid.
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Re: Is he, or isn't he?

Postby Idesigner » Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:31 pm

Dear Torres,

Where does your cousin live?

I assume in some western country. Many muslims have claimed fake refugee status to migrate to west. They declare themselves as persecuted christians or other religionists. Some time they claim to belonging to "minority muslims" e.g. Kurds, Afghans, Shias, Ahmadis etc but actually they can be from Iraq and Pakistan ans main line sunnis. Western countries believe their stoies and welcome as refugees.

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Re: Is he, or isn't he?

Postby Baal » Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:59 pm

Jordanians are a bit fvcked in as much as tribalism is so mixed with islam that they no longer notice the difference anymore. The average prison time spent in secular-jordan for an honor killing over the last 20 years is 1.5 years. The King tried few times to enforce punishment but was turned by his non-mullah parliamentary (made up of tribe heads).

It is possible to have a Christian acting like a muslim just because he thinks this is the correct custom to follow. But after being in the West for so long? that crap should have washed away by now. So my guess is that he is a non-christian until he can prove it otherwise. My guess is mainly about the not-attending the christening part. I am a Christian arab, religious by culture, atheist by belief, I do not attend church but I still attend occasions. He probably is from the group of gnostics that predates judaism, i.e. Druz or the cult of John the Baptist (They were baptising for centuries before Christ, even Christ himself got baptized into that cult in the river of jordan), or he might be a muslim. There is a small possibility that he might be an atheist but that is highly unlikely.
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Re: Is he, or isn't he?

Postby Muhammad bin Lyin » Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:32 pm

Saif al-Hafle Chai wrote:Could be taqiyya. Definitely not paranoid.


DING DING DING!!!! It IS. Taqiyya allows Muslims to deny they are Muslims when they are in a tough spot (or when they need a non Muslim country to allow them in). He probably thought his chances were better to get in that country if he said he was a Christian rather than a Muslim. And Muslims are allowed to do this (temporarily). My guess is that when he becomes comfortable and thinks he will not be asked to leave, THEN we'll see how he really feels.
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Re: Is he, or isn't he?

Postby Lili » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:13 am

Torres!

I used to live in an area heavily populated with arabs (in New York City). About 90% of them came here by claiming another religion and being persecuted by their respective governments. Needless to say, almost all women in my former neighborhood wore burkas and their husbands engaged in loud public prayers in the streets.

Your cousin is probably lying.
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Re: Is he, or isn't he?

Postby iffo » Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:17 am

Lili wrote:Torres!

I used to live in an area heavily populated with arabs (in New York City). About 90% of them came here by claiming another religion and being persecuted by their respective governments. Needless to say, almost all women in my former neighborhood wore burkas and their husbands engaged in loud public prayers in the streets.

Your cousin is probably lying.


That's where you met your arab boy friend ?
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