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Yohan wrote:I have never seen a Hindu marrying his/her first cousin. The first cousin is almost regarded as similar to own brother or sister.
If your information about Hindu customs is based upon what you have seen, you have seen nothing yet. You just don't get the complexities of a vast and deep religious culture you are defending here. Actually that is evident from many of your posts here.
Take this task as a home work and report back, so you may learn about your own religious culture better. Clue: 1955 Hindu marriage act prohibited first cousin marriage except in communties with such practises. In this particular community, the practise has diminshed greatly now.
tejpat wrote:Hindus believe not marrying in same "Gotra" which is given in scripture. i'll give a Clue : wiki Gotra = Bloodline
the following site says marrying in same Gotra is prohibited in North part of india but in south india is present - only between maternal uncle aunt's children.
Yohan wrote:tejpat wrote:Hindus believe not marrying in same "Gotra" which is given in scripture. i'll give a Clue : wiki Gotra = Bloodline
the following site says marrying in same Gotra is prohibited in North part of india but in south india is present - only between maternal uncle aunt's children.
Some 90% of Hindus are of Sudra caste or below. They do not follow any form of 'Gothra', as they do not have any lineage from Aryan sages, that Gothra is based on. If 90% of Hindus do not have Gothra, one can't claim "Hindus believe not marrying in same "Gotra" which is given in scripture". Do you understand?
Gothra marriage guidelines are generally followed by Brahmin families even now. Kshatriyas and Vaishyas castes also try, but their gothras are all phony. I have already pointed this out. Please learn the basics of Hinduism and Hindu society before debating.
tejpat wrote:I am fascinated by your information that shudras are not hindus where in scriptures they are. you haven't being in india and yet you boastfully produce facts as if you have full-fledged research. In India which i live in, shudra follow gotra system unlike your fairytale india where everything is happening whatever you can imagine.Yohan wrote:Some 90% of Hindus are of Sudra caste or below. They do not follow any form of 'Gothra', as they do not have any lineage from Aryan sages, that Gothra is based on. If 90% of Hindus do not have Gothra, one can't claim "Hindus believe not marrying in same "Gotra" which is given in scripture". Do you understand?
Gothra marriage guidelines are generally followed by Brahmin families even now. Kshatriyas and Vaishyas castes also try, but their gothras are all phony. I have already pointed this out. Please learn the basics of Hinduism and Hindu society before debating.
where your getting facts, from Harold ?
Yohan wrote:tejpat wrote:I am fascinated by your information that shudras are not hindus where in scriptures they are. you haven't being in india and yet you boastfully produce facts as if you have full-fledged research. In India which i live in, shudra follow gotra system unlike your fairytale india where everything is happening whatever you can imagine.Yohan wrote:Some 90% of Hindus are of Sudra caste or below. They do not follow any form of 'Gothra', as they do not have any lineage from Aryan sages, that Gothra is based on. If 90% of Hindus do not have Gothra, one can't claim "Hindus believe not marrying in same "Gotra" which is given in scripture". Do you understand?
Gothra marriage guidelines are generally followed by Brahmin families even now. Kshatriyas and Vaishyas castes also try, but their gothras are all phony. I have already pointed this out. Please learn the basics of Hinduism and Hindu society before debating.
where your getting facts, from Harold ?
Why are you fascinated? Where did I say Sudras are not Hindus? I said they have no gotras. If you say Sudras have gotras, you don't know anything about Hinduism. Pretty soon, you would be saying Dalits have gotras too! Tell me what gotra did Sivaji have? Do some research and reply back.
You claming that you know all about Hinduism and Hindu civilization because you live in India is baseless. It is as foolish as an Egyptian claiming that he knows better about Egyptian civilization simply because he lives there.
Where are you getting your facts, from some idiot Hindutva swami? He must be brewing some weird kind of Hinduism (Neo-Hinduism) in his kitchen and getting intoxicated himself and others.
tejpat wrote:Yohan wrote:I have never seen a Hindu marrying his/her first cousin. The first cousin is almost regarded as similar to own brother or sister.
If your information about Hindu customs is based upon what you have seen, you have seen nothing yet. You just don't get the complexities of a vast and deep religious culture you are defending here. Actually that is evident from many of your posts here.
Take this task as a home work and report back, so you may learn about your own religious culture better. Clue: 1955 Hindu marriage act prohibited first cousin marriage except in communties with such practises. In this particular community, the practise has diminshed greatly now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage#Hinduism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_mar ... ristianity
Hindus believe not marrying in same "Gotra" which is given in scripture. i'll give a Clue : wiki Gotra = Bloodline
the following site says marrying in same Gotra is prohibited in North part of india but in south india is present - only between maternal uncle aunt's children.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotra#Marriages_and_gotras
Idesigner wrote:Can some one tell me why among many Brahmin castes ( i gusee others too) of south india man marrying to his maternal uncle's daughter is preferred matrimonial alliance? Even in Maharastra its not unheard of.
Andhra Brahmins are worst. They marry even daughter of their elder sister. I knew one Andhrite who had a pretty sick child , a product of marriage to his elder sis daugther.May be when North Indian Brahmins went begging to south, they were very few in numbers and allowed those incestuous marriages.I heard all south indian states want to ban these kind of marriages. Well Hindus are Hindus, they break laws.
Even in north india, if we go by custome of epics , Puranas there were many Brahmin- Kshtriya clans which allowed marriage between cross cousins i.e. male marriage to maternal uncle's daughter. Looks like Hindus of those days emphasized prohibition of close paternal cousin marriages.
tejpat wrote:Its written in scriptures that one cannot marry 7 generations from father's side and 5 generations from mother's side.
we have a festival of "Rakhi" where cousins both from maternal and paternal sides will bone and tie a thread connecting them with bro-sis relation.
i have heard of cousin marriage in south India but had on idea what their actions are based on.
Idesigner wrote:Can some one tell me why among many Brahmin castes ( i gusee others too) of south india man marrying to his maternal uncle's daughter is preferred matrimonial alliance? Even in Maharastra its not unheard of.
Andhra Brahmins are worst. They marry even daughter of their elder sister. I knew one Andhrite who had a pretty sick child , a product of marriage to his elder sis daugther.May be when North Indian Brahmins went begging to south, they were very few in numbers and allowed those incestuous marriages.I heard all south indian states want to ban these kind of marriages. Well Hindus are Hindus, they break laws.
Even in north india, if we go by custome of epics , Puranas there were many Brahmin- Kshtriya clans which allowed marriage between cross cousins i.e. male marriage to maternal uncle's daughter. Looks like Hindus of those days emphasized prohibition of close paternal cousin marriages.
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