

You on the other hand still living in 1947, narrow minded & full of hate. Pandit Its time to move on.
Of course there is lot of discrimination in India. There is discrimination in every country, even in Muslim countries. Indians discriminate on many basis. Gujaratis discriminating against Maharashtrians, Bengalis against Marwaris, Gujarati Lohars against Gujarati Sonars and so on. India has thousands of communities based on language, caste, religion, sect etc. Each community is divided based on many factors. Panjabi Brahmins against Bihari Brahmins or Bengali Brahmins, etc. Indians are divided on thousands of basis. Even Khoja Muslims hate Kerala Muslims. Shias against Sunnis. Ismailis disliking Bihari Muslims. Even Muslims of South Asia are divided on thousands of basis. Even Christians. That is India.yeezevee wrote:Mr. Ram, the above video is from that link iffo gave in his post., I have to admit here that this video is an interesting video and iffo makes a point there. But I am curious what is Bombay population and How many Muslims are living in it? And what kind of Plot she is talking??
I am narrow minded because I am describing a fact? I am full of hate when I cannot live in my homeland of Sindh because I am a Hindu? My mother tongue is Sindhi. My ancestors have lived in Shikarpur (Sindh) Quetta (Balochistan) and Chaman (NWFP) for hundreds of years but I am forced out because I am a Hindu. Who is full of hate? Muslims who drove me out of my home or me? My problem is Muslims who hate and Muslims like you who refuse to see the truth. My problem is dhimmi minded politically correct leftist politicians who are too afraid to speak the truth and always afraid of "hurting feelings of Muslims".iffo wrote:Swami your problem is you are grumpy, never in good mood. There are people who are trying to build bridges between India and Pak.
You on the other hand still living in 1947, narrow minded & full of hate. Pandit Its time to move on.
yeezevee wrote:
Mr. Ram, the above video is from that link iffo gave in his post., I have to admit here that this video is an interesting video and iffo makes a point there. But I am curious what is Bombay population and How many Muslims are living in it? And what kind of Plot she is talking??
I don't think you have answered the specific questions dear Mr. Ram. Let me put them again..Ram wrote:Of course there is lot of discrimination in India. There is discrimination in every country, even in Muslim countries. Indians discriminate on many basis. Gujaratis discriminating against Maharashtrians, Bengalis against Marwaris, Gujarati Lohars against Gujarati Sonars and so on. India has thousands of communities based on language, caste, religion, sect etc. Each community is divided based on many factors. Panjabi Brahmins against Bihari Brahmins or Bengali Brahmins, etc. Indians are divided on thousands of basis. Even Khoja Muslims hate Kerala Muslims. Shias against Sunnis. Ismailis disliking Bihari Muslims. Even Muslims of South Asia are divided on thousands of basis. Even Christians. That is India.yeezevee wrote:Mr. Ram, the above video is from that link iffo gave in his post., I have to admit here that this video is an interesting video and iffo makes a point there. But I am curious what is Bombay population and How many Muslims are living in it? And what kind of Plot she is talking??
Each language group divided in may castes and each caste is divided in many language groups. So the divisions run in many different directions. Which makes a very complicated situation. Beacuse of that there is no single group in India which has overall majority.
Since 2000, there has not been a Hindu Muslim riot. But since 2000 Muslims are slaughtering Muslims in Pakistan on daily basis. The lady can make this kind of video in India and live to tell her story. What would happen to a lady in Pakistan who were to make similar video? Her throat would be slit.
This Muslim lady cannot find an apartment in Mumbai and make a video and complain, but a Hindu lady who is looking for an apartment in Karachi would be raped by a Muslim.
I am sorry you had to leave Pakistan and your house, never thought you loved Pak so muchRam
I am narrow minded because I am describing a fact? I am full of hate when I cannot live in my homeland of Sindh because I am a Hindu? My mother tongue is Sindhi. My ancestors have lived in Shikarpur (Sindh) Quetta (Balochistan) and Chaman (NWFP) for hundreds of years but I am forced out because I am a Hindu. Who is full of hate? Muslims who drove me out of my home or me? My problem is Muslims who hate and Muslims like you who refuse to see the truth. My problem is dhimmi minded politically correct leftist politicians who are too afraid to speak the truth and always afraid of "hurting feelings of Muslims".
1). Mumbai has almost 20 million population. I am not sure but I think Muslims make up about 2 million (10%) of the total population.yeezevee wrote:1). What is Bombay population and How many Muslims are living in it?
2). And what kind of Plot she is talking??
3). Where does she live??
It is not correct to say that Hindus and Muslims in Bali live peacefully. Bali is a very small island. Hindus on the island of Bali are in majority but they are very small minority in Indonesia. If Hindus of Bali were to assert themselves they would be slaughtered, nobody in the world would care or even know about it. Hindus know that and have accepted their inferior status in order to survive.manfred wrote:So, Ram, why is it that Muslims and Hindus can be good neighbours in one place, but not in Mumbay? Has the memory of the creation of Pakistan not faded yet? Or are there other reasons?
Good question. I don't know. Sooner or later Pakistan will disintegrate if Pakistanis are left to their own devices. Only things which are keeping Pakistan together are the billions of dollars of charity poured by the foolish Americans and hatred of Hindus. Islam did not prevent the break-up pf Pakistan in 1971. Poor Jinnah is turning in his grave but he must wait for the Qayamat - for how long, no body knows.manfred wrote:what do you think, if we could do it all over again, would it be better to have one large India, instead?
I love Pakistan? No I don't. I love Sindh and Balochistan, not Pakistan. I love the Sindhi culture and Sindhi Sufi poets like Shah Abdul Latif and Sami. Now Sindhi Muslims do not read Sami because he was a Hindu - such bigotry. Shah Abdul Latif and Sami were the greatest Sindhi poets.iffo wrote:I am sorry you had to leave Pakistan and your house, never thought you loved Pak so much
I am not sure about that... true Bali is only small, 2 million or near to that, and Hindus are the majority. Many trace their ancestors to the larger island of Jawa; they fled after the arrival Islam, to practice their beliefs freely.Bali is a very small island. Hindus on the island of Bali are in majority but they are very small minority in Indonesia. If Hindus of Bali were to assert themselves they would be slaughtered, nobody in the world would care or even know about it.
Not Plot - Flat (apartment)Yeezee
2). And what kind of Plot she is talking??
O.K., thank you for that response., here is what wiki says on those questions..Ram wrote:1). Mumbai has almost 20 million population. I am not sure but I think Muslims make up about 2 million (10%) of the total population.yeezevee wrote:1). What is Bombay population and How many Muslims are living in it?
2). And what kind of Plot she is talking??
3). Where does she live??
2). I don't know what kind of plot she is talking about. She suffered a garden variety discrimination. She forgot to mention that it is very difficult for a Hindu to live in Muslim neighbourhood in Mumbai. But you can be sure that she got lot of support from many Hindus.
Her criticism is valid but she experienced discrimiantion which is also the experience of many Hindus - for example a Maharashtrian Hindu not renting an apartment to a Hindu from Bihar or Tamil Nadu or vice versa.
Rest assured she has found a nice apartment across the street or few block away. This type of discrimination is very common in India and is practiced by every community against every community. No body getes killed, only the feelings are hurt. Now let us send a Hindu lady in Karachi to look for apartment on her own and see what heppens.
3). I don't know.
So ~ 18% are Muslims., that is a pretty good% of Muslims living in Bombay., I don't understand why that famous Movie actress actress of India with well known father and husband whose father was communist says "she can not get a plot/flat in Bombay?" Something is not right there.. Does she have enough money to buy a house over there?? I am sure it is most expensive place on this earth.. More over there are plenty of Movie actors of India who happened to be Muslims living in that city.It is the most populous city in India, and the second most populous city in the world, with a population of approximately 14 million.
The religions represented in Mumbai include
Hindus (67.39%),
Muslims (18.56%),
Buddhists (5.22%),
Jains (3.99%),
Christians (3.72%),
Sikhs (0.58%),
with Parsis and Jews making up the rest of the population.
The linguistic/ethnic demographics are: Maharashtrians (60%), Gujaratis (19%), with the rest hailing from other parts of India. The oldest Muslim communities in Mumbai include the Dawoodi Bohras, Khojas, and Konkani Muslims. Native Christians include East Indians (ethnic group) Catholics who were converted by the Portuguese, during the 16th century. The city also has a small native Bene Israeli Jewish community, who migrated from the Persian Gulf or Yemen, probably 1600 years ago. Parsis migrated to India from Persia. Today, there are about 80,000 Parsis in Mumbai.
Oh I see., well I was thinking she was trying by a plot of land to built a house in Bombay.. ., well it doesn't matter Plot or Flat., She sounds like a very SPECIAL MUSLIM who can not get a flat because she is Muslim, where as 20% of folks in that city are Muslims.. She sounds stupid to me dear Iffo.. may be she doesn't have enough money..iffo wrote:Not Plot - Flat (apartment)Yeezee
2). And what kind of Plot she is talking??
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She sounds stupid to me dear Iffo.. may be she doesn't have enough money..
yeezevee, I am sure that she suffered discrimination while trying to buy the flat. But she also got lot of support from her Hindu friends. Her feelings were hurt. She is able to talk about it in India. But if a Hindu (or a Christian, or Ahmadiya Muslim or Shia) complained about discrimination in Pakistan or Bangladesh he or she would be killed. So for iffo to criticize Indians about discrimination is nothing but hypocrisy.yeezevee wrote:Oh I see., well I was thinking she was trying by a plot of land to built a house in Bombay.. ., well it doesn't matter Plot or Flat., She sounds like a very SPECIAL MUSLIM who can not get a flat because she is Muslim, where as 20% of folks in that city are Muslims.. She sounds stupid to me dear Iffo.. may be she doesn't have enough money..iffo wrote:Not Plot - Flat (apartment)Yeezee
2). And what kind of Plot she is talking??
Now with the input from iffo where he says "she is rich and classy lady" and on top of it that city's over 18% of its population is Muslim and living in city with houses + there are tons of filmy actors who are Muslims and living in that city., "So I WOULD NOT SAY SHE NOT GETTING A FLAT AS DISCRIMINATION" ., It must be something else., may be it is POLITICALLY motivated. Her blog says.. she often speaks against Islamic Mullahs of India and social evils in India. So she is clearly politically active. Hence I would consider she NOT getting flat in Bombay is more of political and is NOT discrimination based on her religion Mr. Ram."iffo" says"Ram respondsYeeZee
She sounds stupid to me dear Iffo.. may be she doesn't have enough money..
Shabana Azmi is very educated/modern and rich Bollywood star.: yeezevee, I am sure that she suffered discrimination while trying to buy the flat. But she also got lot of support from her Hindu friends. Her feelings were hurt. She is able to talk about it in India. But if a Hindu (or a Christian, or Ahmadiya Muslim or Shia) complained about discrimination in Pakistan or Bangladesh he or she would be killed. So for iffo to criticize Indians about discrimination is nothing but hypocrisy.