Why I am done with Islam

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janedoe
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Why I am done with Islam

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Islam is 'really' religion for men only. No woman could possibly be a muslim and happy, it is not possible. Converting to islam is shown as a relgion of peace and tolerance and follow five pillars of islam, which are just an excuse to get you to convert and make out it is all nice and happy and peacful but it really is not once you look at it and live it for a while. I have been asking myself one hundred or so questions for the past year and not getting any good answers here are some of them.

Please tell me why it is that I can't pray whilst menstruating?? I am too unclean to pray? Yet, I am told I can still make du'a, yet what is du'a if not prayer?? Basically tell me that even if I were to ritualistically wash myself (make wudu) I am not clean enough to pray yet tells me I can pray directly to God inside my head without prostration? How does that make sense exactly?? What is the whole point of the wudu then? At all? Also, I am not supposed to touch the Quran during my period?? Or to visit a Mosque. What kind of God would differentiate between a male and female when they want to be close to God? This is not only ludicrious but it shows extreme favritism towards men, thus enhancing the belief that Islam teaches that men are better than women. Also, have you seen the size of the ladies prayer areas in a mosque?? Tiny and cramped!!! Why would God teach people this ?? God loves all.

That Dogs have jinns inside them?? WHAT??? We are all of God's creatures. Dogs are the types of animals that are so well suited to be domestic pet because of their natural affinity towards human beings. They have brought so much love and solace to humans over the years. How on earth would our God tell man to not keep a dog or that they are unclean or that a jinn resides in them or that we cannot pray near them or where they are kept? This is stuuupid. And the rules about eating pig? because they eat other animals, yes ok they maybe eat other animal waste etc which is not too appealing thought but what about eating fish and sea creatures - they all eat other fish but they are accepted as halal? How is this fair?

How can I follow a religion that teaches me to view other followers of faiths with hatred and superiority allow me to start feeling suprem to the other children of God? That is terrible and so arrogant. I found myself starting to slip into hate and anger and quite opposite of supposed religion of peace and tolerance, when I became muslim I used to love all people equally and all of civilisation, yes there were people that irrated me and I didn't agree with but I never did think it would be okay to kill and wipe them out, or to try convince them into believing in Islam....this again is a horrible suggestion.

How can I follow a religion that teach men that it's okay to marry and have sex with 9 year old child?? I have a daughter and it make me sick in my stomach that if she grow up in the Islamic faith that I would at some point have to give her up for marrage whilst shes still a child? Whether girls have menstrual period from a young age or not, does not that they should be married off to a 40 or 50 year old man. It's a sick thought that the prophet Muhammad at his old age carried out this same act. And if I did not give her up for marriage if requested, that I would be disobeying the wishes of prophet Muhammad and ultimately, Allah. I don't agree that as soon as a child has a period she is of childbearing age. Her body is getting her prepared for adulthood. I cannot follow this trains of thought.

That I must walk around covering my hair at all times and, all of a sudden in my life (as a revert) am unable to hug my cousins and uncles nor to ever touch them again?? What? These are people that grew up with me as if a father/brother and some of whom are blood. I cannot live in my home with curtains closed, blinds drawn in the summer heat because I fear if they are open, neighbours may look in and see my hair? What, am I to walk around my own house in the heat with my head covered as well??? Some may say, but the heat you are experiencing is nothing compared with the fire of hell for committing sins.... What kind of a rule is this? I cannot understand that men seeing my hair is such a sin and I cannot live within my own four walls as a prisoner. Why did God give seasons, the sunshine, the wind and the rain if we are forbidden to feel it on our skin and the wind in our hair? Oh, sorry, I mean, if you are FEMALE that is !!! IT is proven that lack of Vitamin D from the sun is cause many immune system problems and the body has inability to absorb vitamins and minerals. Are you tell me that God asked Muhammad to tell the world this, did he want women to suffer with their health??? of course, because we are all bad and Mohammad says that hell is full of us!!! Did he not think about the colder countries that get little sunshine as it is? Oh, yes and what about the colder climates where there is little darkness through summer and are expected to fast for up to 22 hours a day during Ramadan??? The answers I have been given are that the brothers and sisters who 'do' fast etc in this climate will be given extra rewards for their suffering..ie. suffering=reward! What is this silly ruling...........How can a Mother be expected to do this when she has little children, how can she be forced to be weak from between 14-22 hours a day when she has little babies to run around after in the heat of the sun?? How can eskimo peoples pray properly and make the wudu when they are living in sub zero temperatur??What ???? This is ludicrous. Because Islam is suppose to have one rule for everyone the same! Such sexism and stupidity all round!!!

That I must awake in the middle of the night to get up, wash myself, pray and then somehow get back to sleep and manage my life with lack of sleep (because apparently praying is so much better than sleeping...). I have a baby also. When my baby decides she wants to nap or sleep and it's prayer time, I can't just leave the baby to scream and howl for me because I get up and disrupt her so I can go and make wudu before the sunsets/rises, in case I be commiting a sin of not praying on time. It is exhausting enough being a mother so I must also sleep when the baby sleeps otherwise I would get almost no sleep. How can this be right, when I get extremely sick and immune rundown if I don't sleep well. How can this be beneficial to my life? But ah, yes, I can pray through du'a.....again, my whole point, then what is the point of formal praying/making wudu, when we can talk to Allah directly anyway.

And also......what is the whole point of following a religion that tells you that, alas, on one day or thirty days of the year, all your sinning can be wiped out if you fast and pray. Basically, I can do pretty much as I wish, as long as I carry out the fasts. This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. There are so many rules about, oh if you do this then all your sins will be washed away.... what???? If you have baby, you get this many sins washed away for this amount of time so on and so on....so stupid and illogical. How's about just be good, follow your God consciousness...that which we have all been born with. What's right and what's wrong. Our internal guide. Not one that is written in a book. God is in us all. How is any muslim supposed to learn and remember every single rule and the contradictory ones?? Head spinning all over the place trying to keep up with it all!!

What about being taught that it's wrong to listen to music. I have never heard so much rubbish in my life. Why is it so then, that my baby daughter just love music and singing..her head turns the minute she hear music and she smiles and laughs. That is not evil, nor it is anything else, other than deep pleasure and joy (oh but the Muslims would probably answer that it's the Shaytan tell her to laugh). What a pleasure music brings to people's ears and hearts. It is so comforting, can help release emotions, can help dealing with tragedy, can help to make you happy, can help to ease your pain and suffering (in the same way that praying to a universal God can). How can anyone say music is in any way damaging? Maybe certain type are (heavy metal or techno music perhaps ;-D ). I have read that prophet Muhammad frequently had women singing at weddings and gatherings. How is that bad? Yet another case of hypocrit, I ask?

How can I live with myself if being a Muslim, I am aware that other of my faith will willfully kill and slaughter people in the name of God? What God is that, I ask? It's not the God I know, the God I trust, the God that has brought me to where I am today. My parents taught me it's wrong to hurt others, to steal, to Kill another human....whether religious or not, we all know it is just plain WRONG!!! No God of our universe would teach that.

Why is it that the Muslims must follow what is written in a book?? Why? Why then I ask, we are given brains from which to expand, nurtur and develop as we grow? What would be the point of free thinking - take a parent/ child for instance that are brought up with no religion, no book to follow, only gut instinct and intution and the need for food and water. They don't have any issues and problems, only to survive and be good humans. Ihave seen it happen in many island civilisation!! No Quran in sight. Are you tell me these people will go to hell?

My final point is this..... how can this religion teach that non Muslim people that who are good, been good their whole life, will burn in hell because they didn't 're'-vert to Islam??? So you are tell me that those who are born in Islam and are bad people will automatically go to heaven??? And those caring loving types will be banished to hellfire for using their God given caring instinct??? What?? This is RIDICULOUS!!

I now cannot see how I can proceed any further, after all of the above information, mostly through my own internal 'red light' flashing at me constantly and from reading and askinging further. I feel I was mislead, tricked and only regret now is I met my man who roped me into this situation and I was too weak and too stupid to realise what I was doing. However if I did not met him I would not have my beautiful daughter. I only pray that we can get on with our life away from him, without fearing for our live. I am so scared about the apostate killings, this is the most horrible and scary thing I have every had to think about in my life. I hope and pray to my universal God for forgiveness, for the feelings of hatred I had developed for my non-Muslim brother and sisterhood. Who was I to feel those things - nobody special, just one of the universe creation. I pray he forgive me for this time in my life and for strength for me and my daughter future, to get away from the evil ways I have been introduced to. Thank you for reading and for help and your support and keep asking people to come forward to tell their story.

I posted on the new members forum but wanted to also post on the testimony section too. thanks for reading.
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Excellent testimony Janedoe.! :) I hope you contribute to debunking islam here . The purpose of this site is to expose the naked truth about islam to the rest of the world. I have a question. Jane doe in hindi means let it go. Are you by chance from the subcontinent?
Look around yourself and you'll find people with virtues are never required to demand respect since they automatically earn it. It is only those that are devoid of any virtues need to threaten and bully to gain respect. Needless to say that quran cannot be from God.
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no, I am not from the sub-continent, I used this name since it is a very generic name. I can't allow my identity to be traced at all. Thank you for reading my testimony, I will do whatever I can and keep writing to help in the plight against the evil of Islam.
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janedoe wrote:no, I am not from the sub-continent, I used this name since it is a very generic name. I can't allow my identity to be traced at all. Thank you for reading my testimony, I will do whatever I can and keep writing to help in the plight against the evil of Islam.
Fine . I dont want you to take any sort of risks. I am ok it with you keeping your identity private.
Look around yourself and you'll find people with virtues are never required to demand respect since they automatically earn it. It is only those that are devoid of any virtues need to threaten and bully to gain respect. Needless to say that quran cannot be from God.
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skynightblaze wrote:
janedoe wrote:no, I am not from the sub-continent, I used this name since it is a very generic name. I can't allow my identity to be traced at all. Thank you for reading my testimony, I will do whatever I can and keep writing to help in the plight against the evil of Islam.
Fine . I dont want you to take any sort of risks. I am ok it with you keeping your identity private.
Jane Doe or John Doe

Welcome to the forum, janedoe.
Islam: an idea to kill and die for.
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it's just a username, my own identity will remain private for fear of you know what..........worst nightmare. Until I am sure and certain that there will be no repercussions, I must remain anonymous. thanks again for reading my testimony guys. I wish you all the best in life.
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janedoe wrote:it's just a username, my own identity will remain private for fear of you know what..........worst nightmare. Until I am sure and certain that there will be no repercussions, I must remain anonymous. thanks again for reading my testimony guys. I wish you all the best in life.
Very wise and welcome and congratulations!
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Thanks very much Wootah - do you have a testimony - can I read it?
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janedoe wrote:it's just a username, my own identity will remain private for fear of you know what..........worst nightmare. Until I am sure and certain that there will be no repercussions, I must remain anonymous. thanks again for reading my testimony guys. I wish you all the best in life.
hi jane doe. Excellent testimony. I am glad that you have rejected the ideology of hate. I pray that you will find your way out soon and be able to live freely with your daughter without fear. You should inform as many women (men as well) as possible about what you learned about Islam by writing e mails ANONYMOUSLY, sending links to various website such as this to your friends and family.
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thank you. the more I read the more I am enlightened. I hate those feelings of guilt you still get and the feelings that you have to say bismillah before everything!! it's still inside my head so I need to get rid of it. It will take some time. I have just organised to go on a holiday with my family, which will be strange and weird but wonderful. I can't believe I almost cut them off from my life completely. What a sad sad day that would have been. thanks again best of luck to you in life. I wil try the email thing to get the word round anonymously as you said, what a great idea.
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janedoe wrote:thank you. the more I read the more I am enlightened. I hate those feelings of guilt you still get and the feelings that you have to say bismillah before everything!! it's still inside my head so I need to get rid of it. It will take some time. I have just organised to go on a holiday with my family, which will be strange and weird but wonderful. I can't believe I almost cut them off from my life completely. What a sad sad day that would have been. thanks again best of luck to you in life. I wil try the email thing to get the word round anonymously as you said, what a great idea.


Hi again janedoe!
A holiday sounds like a great idea! A chance to really relax and unwind for a while!
I'm sure it'll be great for you. Relax and really enjoy your new-found freedom!
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oh yes, indeed thanks. It's like learning to be me all over again. Very odd :???: It's amazing how quickly you literally do become someone else and made to feel very bad and terrible about yourself and your ways. Even when out ifI am showin half of my arm to my elbow I feel really uneasy and must get used to this new me again.
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janedoe wrote:thank you. the more I read the more I am enlightened. I hate those feelings of guilt you still get and the feelings that you have to say bismillah before everything!! it's still inside my head so I need to get rid of it. It will take some time. I have just organised to go on a holiday with my family, which will be strange and weird but wonderful. I can't believe I almost cut them off from my life completely. What a sad sad day that would have been. thanks again best of luck to you in life.
Islam is very much like Fascism. Both are totalitarian. Both ideologies programme you - like saying bismillah before very action. You have already taken a first step.

Your family is not Muslim. You have a family to go to. They did not reject you and were there for you. Imagine for a minute, you were born a Muslim and you converted to Christianity - you would not be there to go back to your family. Most likely you would have been killed - or - your life made miserable at the very least.
I wil try the email thing to get the word round anonymously as you said, what a great idea.
I am glad that you liked my idea.
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pr126 wrote:
skynightblaze wrote:
janedoe wrote:no, I am not from the sub-continent, I used this name since it is a very generic name. I can't allow my identity to be traced at all. Thank you for reading my testimony, I will do whatever I can and keep writing to help in the plight against the evil of Islam.
Fine . I dont want you to take any sort of risks. I am ok it with you keeping your identity private.
Jane Doe or John Doe

Welcome to the forum, janedoe.
I didnt have any idea about this. :D . In hindi the actual word is "Jaane Do" which means let it go /leave it /ignore it but you know how people write on forums and I found it close to this hindi word and thats why asked her.
Look around yourself and you'll find people with virtues are never required to demand respect since they automatically earn it. It is only those that are devoid of any virtues need to threaten and bully to gain respect. Needless to say that quran cannot be from God.
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Islam is very much like Fascism. Both are totalitarian. Both ideologies programme you - like saying bismillah before very action. You have already taken a first step.

Your family is not Muslim. You have a family to go to. They did not reject you and were there for you. Imagine for a minute, you were born a Muslim and you converted to Christianity - you would not be there to go back to your family. Most likely you would have been killed - or - your life made miserable at the very least.


Yes, I know... I am very very fortunate to have a family who supported me regardless of my belief system. I thank God every day for them, they only asked questions about the religion and tried to find out about it, however, follow same beliefs I have now (again, as before). They are very open people and kind and considerate, living by the golden rule of treat others as you would be treated yourself and so on. I feel really really sad for those who are not in the same position, however, I may have to, if it comes down to it, move away so my baby's father can't find us, so therefore would not be with my family, which hurts but I have to look at the reality of the situation but pray it does not come to that. :(
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janedoe wrote:
Ram wrote:Islam is very much like Fascism. Both are totalitarian. Both ideologies programme you - like saying bismillah before very action. You have already taken a first step.

Your family is not Muslim. You have a family to go to. They did not reject you and were there for you. Imagine for a minute, you were born a Muslim and you converted to Christianity - you would not be there to go back to your family. Most likely you would have been killed - or - your life made miserable at the very least.
Yes, I know... I am very very fortunate to have a family who supported me regardless of my belief system. I thank God every day for them, they only asked questions about the religion and tried to find out about it, however, follow same beliefs I have now (again, as before). They are very open people and kind and considerate, living by the golden rule of treat others as you would be treated yourself and so on. I feel really really sad for those who are not in the same position, however, I may have to, if it comes down to it, move away so my baby's father can't find us, so therefore would not be with my family, which hurts but I have to look at the reality of the situation but pray it does not come to that. :(
I am glad but not surprised that you family loved you in spite of the fact you left the religion of your birth because their religion (and all other religions except Islam) teaches to be kind and loving. It would be very sad if you have to move away from your family to save yourself and the baby.

I hope that you can make some sort of arrangement, so that you can be in contact with your family and they can find a way to see you.
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yes precisely - yet another thing for Muslims to see staring them in the face...... WE DON'T HATE OTHERS!! Regardless of religion creed culture race and all those things put together. Non-muslims are a forgiving and peaceful bunch. Basically ISLAM PROCLAIM to have THE ATTRIBUTES OF ALL THE NON-MUSLIMS ie. a peaceful and harmonious and tolerant relgion. They are the ANTITHESIS OF ALL THESE THINGS! :shock:
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janedoe wrote:
(snip)
They (Muslims) are the ANTITHESIS OF ALL THESE THINGS! :shock:


I agree!

It always goes the same way. The first few Muslims will come into a Western town, and they are all smiles and everything. But as soon as they reach a certain number, the smiles start to disappear, and their real selves come out. It is all "give us this, give us that".
They can be **incredibly ungrateful!**

It's quite bizarre. Muslims seem to see no contradiction at all in being a GUEST in a Western town, and yet being ***as rude as heck*** in making all these demands. That is why it is time to put a complete stop to Islamic immigration to the West.

You are indeed very fortunate that your family is non-Muslim - that's great! They will be a true source of strength for you.

Bye for now -
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yes it is quite ironic isn't it how they make the demands in an attempt to integrate themselves however it is the opposite of what is taught in their holy book which tells them to 'kill them where ye find them'...so in fact, are they just emulating Muhammad in being sly, gradually building in their numbers and one day STRIKE!! Bang! 'thanks *neighbours*, this is our town now'. :ermm: Let's hope they are ALL stopped in their tracks.
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Its rather unfortunate jane that you are lost to the beaty of islam.....i am a revert to islam and it seems that i understand it because allah has blessed me.....there is a life after death that is eternal and the way to get their is dificult it is not for the weak lazy or the impatient......the more hardship you go through the more reward you obtain....your questions are easily answered however it seems you have got to the point of beyond help you can e-mail me if you would like a truthful answer to any questions.....i have met and helped a few female reverts to islam because they are often misled by men as the understanding of certain rituals....above all we muslims do things because allah told us too or because its the way the prophet peace be upon him told us too....islam is very simple obey and be rewarded
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