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ZamZam is a Jinn piss 'water'
Mr SAM! What has gotten into you?? Are you attempting to mock at the Muslims who hold this water to be sacred? Dont do that, it's just water from a well in Mecca.

Already consider apostating my friend SAM? Welcome to....... oops, not now.

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kenmirzz wrote:
ZamZam is a Jinn piss 'water'
Mr SAM! What has gotten into you?? Are you attempting to mock at the Muslims who hold this water to be sacred? Dont do that, it's just water from a well in Mecca.

Already consider apostating my friend SAM? Welcome to....... oops, not now.

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I know more than you in spirituality vision.
I doubt that SAM., What you have is "ISLAMIC vision" which often people like you and many Muhammad following Muslims gets confused with " spirituality vision"

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yeezevee wrote:
I know more than you in spirituality vision.
I doubt that SAM., What you have is "ISLAMIC vision" which often people like you and many Muhammad following Muslims gets confused with " spirituality vision"

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I have been permanently banned from other religious website about 1 yr ago when I posted this

The short story of Adam n Eve (Forbidden Fruit)?

Adam said, O Eve! do not come near my Forbidden Fruit (TESTICLE) or else both of us will be of the wrong doers.
Years went by, and Eve was preoccupied with thoughts of that Testicle. Then one day, Eve can't resist temptation to kiss n swallow in her mouth on Adam whilst he slept. Imagine his surprise when he woke up and found out a wonderful pleasure and he stretched out his hand to fondle Eve BREAST. They both kiss and lick of the Forbidden Fruit (Testicle n Breast) and went out of control.Adam n Eve had hardly finished it because both of them filled with pleasure and work up to Climax......

God/Allah/Yaweh accepted their repentance because it was SINCERE and forgiveness. :cry:
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They both kiss and lick of the Forbidden Fruit (Testicle n Breast) and went out of control.Adam n Eve had hardly finished it because both of them filled with pleasure and work up to Climax......
Well if there was Adam n Eve they did not Harm any one during their time or now Unlike Muhammad's Islam.

Muhammad following Muslims kiss and lick the Quranic verses and kill any one who questions them and their Islam for pleasure and work up to Climax dear SAM. That is where the problem lies..

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have been permanently banned from other religious website about 1 yr ago when I posted this

The short story of Adam n Eve (Forbidden Fruit)?

Adam said, O Eve! do not come near my Forbidden Fruit (TESTICLE) or else both of us will be of the wrong doers.
Years went by, and Eve was preoccupied with thoughts of that Testicle. Then one day, Eve can't resist temptation to kiss n swallow in her mouth on Adam whilst he slept. Imagine his surprise when he woke up and found out a wonderful pleasure and he stretched out his hand to fondle Eve BREAST. They both kiss and lick of the Forbidden Fruit (Testicle n Breast) and went out of control.Adam n Eve had hardly finished it because both of them filled with pleasure and work up to Climax......

God/Allah/Yaweh accepted their repentance because it was SINCERE and forgiveness.
Mr SAM, where is the reference for this amazing erotic story? Is it from the "Israelliyyat" sources as most Muslims believe? If you are preoccupied with spiritualistic thought, the story above seems irrelevant. The Quran used the word "Shajarah" which means fruits, then how come your intepretation of Adam and Eve legend strayed from commonly accepted version by Muslims and Christians( with slight differences)?

Or, are you joking around?

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kenmirzz wrote:
have been permanently banned from other religious website about 1 yr ago when I posted this

The short story of Adam n Eve (Forbidden Fruit)?

Adam said, O Eve! do not come near my Forbidden Fruit (TESTICLE) or else both of us will be of the wrong doers.
Years went by, and Eve was preoccupied with thoughts of that Testicle. Then one day, Eve can't resist temptation to kiss n swallow in her mouth on Adam whilst he slept. Imagine his surprise when he woke up and found out a wonderful pleasure and he stretched out his hand to fondle Eve BREAST. They both kiss and lick of the Forbidden Fruit (Testicle n Breast) and went out of control.Adam n Eve had hardly finished it because both of them filled with pleasure and work up to Climax......

God/Allah/Yaweh accepted their repentance because it was SINCERE and forgiveness.
Mr SAM, where is the reference for this amazing erotic story? Is it from the "Israelliyyat" sources as most Muslims believe? If you are preoccupied with spiritualistic thought, the story above seems irrelevant. The Quran used the word "Shajarah" which means fruits, then how come your intepretation of Adam and Eve legend strayed from commonly accepted version by Muslims and Christians( with slight differences)?

Or, are you joking around?

Humanity is but one family. :)
May be he got it from the "deeper" meanings of Quran :lol:
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kenmirzz wrote: Mr SAM, where is the reference for this amazing erotic story? Is it from the "Israelliyyat" sources as most Muslims believe? If you are preoccupied with spiritualistic thought, the story above seems irrelevant. The Quran used the word "Shajarah" which means fruits, then how come your intepretation of Adam and Eve legend strayed from commonly accepted version by Muslims and Christians( with slight differences)?

Or, are you joking around?
NO....! I'm not joking. Whatever you want say,it's up to you. I ain't got no problema...! I can tell you more Shock 'n' Awe if you're interested............. :shock:
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charleslemartel wrote: May be he got it from the "deeper" meanings of Quran :lol:
Not from deeper meaning of the Quran. It's through High Reality Spiritual Vision or the Deeper Spiritual Significance not understood by everybody. Muhammad has said: "Whosoever expresses his personal opinion in respect of anything in the Qur'an commits a mistake, even if he be right in his opinion." :D :*)
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SAM wrote:
charleslemartel wrote: May be he got it from the "deeper" meanings of Quran :lol:
Not from deeper meaning of the Quran. It's through High Reality Spiritual Vision or the Deeper Spiritual Significance not understood by everybody. Muhammad has said: "Whosoever expresses his personal opinion in respect of anything in the Qur'an commits a mistake, even if he be right in his opinion." :D :*)
Now, that is interesting. Why would Mohammed say such a thing? Perhaps he was worried that people point at some of the many inacuracies?
Also, I assume this refers to any of Mohammed's oral recitations, because the quran as a written text did not exist until about 100 years after Mohammed's death.
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yeezevee wrote: well read this FOOL

http://www.geocities.com/alislamiworld/ ... _water.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This Idiot doing research doesn't seem to know that water is 2 hydrogen atoms and One Oxygen Atom...Stupid people foolish religion

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This is a bit late, but... I did read the link. Real gem, that one. :roflmao:

Here's one of my favorite quotes. Bolded for emphasis and hilarity:
The difference between Zumzum water and other water (city water) was in the quantity of calcium and magnesium salts.

The content of these was slightly higher in Zumzum water. This may be why this water refreshes tired hajis, but more significantly, the water contained fluorides that have an effective germicidal action. Moreover, the remarks of the European laboratories showed that the water was fit for drinking.
Okay, let's be clear. Unless aquifer water is close to a poorly-kept steel mill or something like that, flouride doesn't just pop up! This flouride had to come from somewhere.... In fact, in the West (and probably here too, possibly by slant... umm... not really slant drilling, but like they were slant drilling, only putting the flourides [and probably the water itself] into the proper place... sorry, "miraculous location") the addition of flourides into the water was met with resistance and fear. In some quarters, it was thought to be a communist plot to weaken teeth, because in large enough quantities, flourides do a LOT of damage to tooth enamel. In small quantities, like the amount pumped into drinking water and...ahem... 'found' in ZamZam water, it strengthens enamel.

In short: This 'scientist' is clearly either lying or simply avoiding the facts about where flouride comes from. The other stuff is just standard for aquifer water, stuff you'd expect from water that's probably pretty deep, but comes to the surface. Here in the U.S. we call it 'hard water.' Ironically enough, the salts are really bad for your teeth. And pipes and shower fixtures. I know this because I live in an area that used mostly ground water until about ten years ago. Because of that, my mother (who grew up here before the change) has terrible teeth, and my grandparents' house (where my mother grew up) had- until they replaced them- pretty nasty hard water buildup in shower/bath and faucet fixtures.

Know what's really sad, too? I probably know way more about what should and shouldn't be in desert aquifer water, and he's supposed to be the expert.

*Edit* Dangit, now I feel kind of guilty for derailing the thread. Katy, you are incredibly brave and I wish you the best of luck. That you may have happiness in your marriage, and that your life continues to improve.
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manfred wrote: Now, that is interesting. Why would Mohammed say such a thing? Perhaps he was worried that people point at some of the many inacuracies?
You never been Muslim, why are people like you so worried about Quran inacuracies? :???:
Also, I assume this refers to any of Mohammed's oral recitations
No such a thing "assume" :)
because the quran as a written text did not exist until about 100 years after Mohammed's death.
Nonsensical rubbish spoken by unbeliever. :roflmao:
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Hey all,

Just reading through the posts and laughing at that interesting bit of religious porn - sammy sammy sam, that really made my day hahaha. Perhaps one day future generations can look at the deeper meaning of that story and even link up some newly discovered scientific findings that it had already reveled - but only realised in time...
yeezevee wrote:
well read this FOOL

http://www.geocities.com/alislamiworld/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... _water.htm

This Idiot doing research doesn't seem to know that water is 2 hydrogen atoms and One Oxygen Atom...Stupid people foolish religion
My goodness - that link (in my head) is in competition with that religious erotica. hahaha wtf!?!

The thing that I found to be interesting was:
In 1971, an Egyptian doctor wrote to the European Press, a letter saying that Zumzum water was not fit for drinking purposes.


and then
Fortunately, the news came to King Faisal's ears who got extremely angry and decided to disprove the Egyptian doctor's provocative statement.


This reaction is so typical - it frustrated the hell out of me. What if the gypo dr was right? Instead of investigating further...no..."we have to prove him wrong" It has been the case many times where the King has paid some scientist off to 'research' and come up with 'findings' - which subsequently always favour the islamic veiw of things.

And what's with the word "fortunately"!! Why is it fortunate that the king got angry at this?? Is it so their doubts could die down and they could continue believing this crap!

And the icing on the cake
I immediately thought that this was just a form of prejudice against the Muslims
- Well isn't that always the case... Poor, poor victims...NOT

This attitude is why islamic countries arn't getting anywere!!! grrrrrr anger management :x
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SAM wrote:
manfred wrote: Now, that is interesting. Why would Mohammed say such a thing? Perhaps he was worried that people point at some of the many inacuracies?
You never been Muslim, why are people like you so worried about Quran inacuracies? :???:
Also, I assume this refers to any of Mohammed's oral recitations
No such a thing "assume" :)
because the quran as a written text did not exist until about 100 years after Mohammed's death.
Nonsensical rubbish spoken by unbeliever. :roflmao:
Show me a written copy of the quran, as it is now, which is older than that, and I shall be the first to agree with the comment you made about me above.

Also, it is not I who is worried, but it is high time you started to worry. Judging your reaction and your resort to ad hominem arguments clearly shows all of us just how worried you are already, and that is a good thing. Your final response seems to generally be: "you are not a Muslim, so I put my fingers in my ears...lalalala..."

So, when will you use the brain God gave you? Why are you afraid to do what katy did?
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káty_gg wrote:It has been the case many times where the King has paid some scientist off to 'research' and come up with 'findings' - which subsequently always favour the islamic veiw of things.
Yes, that is so true. Maurice Bucaille is the chief among them. :roll:
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káty_gg wrote:Hey all,

Just reading through the posts and laughing at that interesting bit of religious porn - sammy sammy sam, that really made my day hahaha.
More sort of a laughingstock coming soon. It depends on the forums & discussion topic. Be Happy :*)
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manfred wrote:Show me a written copy of the quran, as it is now, which is older than that, and I shall be the first to agree with the comment you made about me above.
He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book; in it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are not of well-established meaning. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is not of well-established meaning. Seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its true meanings except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:" and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding. ( Al-i-‘Imran 3:7)
Also, it is not I who is worried, but it is high time you started to worry. Judging your reaction and your resort to ad hominem arguments clearly shows all of us just how worried you are already, and that is a good thing.
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Your final response seems to generally be: "you are not a Muslim, so I put my fingers in my ears...lalalala..."
As I ever said before, “Me on a journey to find Spiritual Truth of Truth's etc.... I had to go through as an Apostate, Christian, and Jews etc.... But now, I neither theism nor atheism, religion nor a philosophy, it is neither Christian nor a Jew, but stands between the two and fills the gap as Oneness...”
So, when will you use the brain God gave you?
God gave me Jewels Of Divine Knowledge not a brain-dead like you :D
Why are you afraid to do what katy did?
It's between myself and Supreme Being. Can I make her become my lover? :sorry:
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Noone will understand the true message of Koran, then why send it among ignorant humans, :huh:
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sunshine wrote:Noone will understand the true message of Koran, then why send it among ignorant humans, :huh:
Cited from Vidyarthi. Muhammad in World Scriptures. New Delhi: Adam Publishers, 1990.

Prophet Muhammad is mentioned more than once in the Hindu scriptures.

Hindu scriptures are divided into three basic categories: Vedas, Upanishads and Puranas. There are differences about the age of those scriptures; some people believe that they go back almost 4,000 years.
One of the amazing prophecies in these Hindu scriptures is the one on the tongue of Maharshi Vyasa, a Hindu saint, that states that the land of Arabs will be corrupted by the evil doers — maybe a reference to the pre-Islamic pagans; and that Mahamad — a slight adulteration of the name Muhammad — will come and guide those who went astray. He will be circumcised, bearded, eloquent; he will create a great revolution; he will announce the call for prayers; he will eat of the meat of lawful animals but not of the swine; and he will fight against irreligious nations. All these descriptions meet Prophet Muhammad (Vidyarthi).

Bhavishya Purana, one of the most important Puranas, includes another prophecy that states that in a foreign country a spiritual teacher whose name is Muhammad will come; he will be a dweller of Arabia; he will gather a large force to fight or kill the devil; and God will protect him from his opponents.

Prophet Muhammad Mentioned in the Upanishad

Some Hindu scholars consider the Upanishads scripture to be superior to the Vedas, because they impart divine knowledge and teach how the human soul can get nearer to its Maker and Master.

The Muslim testimony of faith is mentioned in the Upanishads.
The most important prophecy in it is the one that mentions the coming of Prophet Muhammad by name, and the Muslim testimony of faith — there is no God but Allah — is repeated more than once in it.
As a result of the clarity and explicitness of that prophecy, some Hindus actually enter into Islam, which has led some Hindu scholars to claim that perhaps this prophecy was written by a Hindu pundit who converted to Islam. But this is refuted because this prophecy was referred to in some of the ancient Hindu books that predate the advent of Islam or Muslims to India (Vidyarthi).

In the Allo Upanishad, the following description of God is given: the name of the deity is Allah, He is one, the King of all the world, He is the Magnificent, the Greatest of all, the Best, the Most Perfect , the Holiest of all, the Nourisher of the whole world, the Manifester of the earth and the space, and the Lord of all creation.

He created the sun, the moon, the stars, and the heavens. He is the Nourisher of all the birds, beasts, animals that live in the sea and those that are not visible to the eye. He is the remover of all evils and calamities, and Muhammad is the apostle of Allah.

Prophet Muhammad Mentioned in the Vedas

The third basic category of Hindu scriptures is called the Veda. In the Atharva Veda, it is mentioned that the praiseworthy among people shall be praised; it is known that the name Muhammad in Arabic actually means "the praiseworthy."

It also states that the promised prophet will be a camel rider, which is interesting because Indian prophets were forbidden to ride camels. Prophet Jesus, according to the New Testament, rode on an *** but not on a camel, but it is well known that Prophet Muhammad rode a camel.

The seventh mantra also speaks about someone who is going to be a guide to all people, and Prophet Muhammad always emphasized that he was not sent to a particular people, like Israelites alone or Arabs alone, but to the whole world.

The sixth mantra speaks about some of the brave people who vanquished without a battle and that the number of their opponents was 10,000, which could be a reference to the battle of the allies or the trench that took place during Prophet Muhammad's time. The number of the people who put a siege around Madinah were indeed 10,000, and they were vanquished without a battle because God sent a hurricane that finally, after a long siege, forced them to leave.

In the Rig Veda, it speaks about a person who is described as truthful and trustworthy, powerful and generous who will be famous with 10,000. All these are the characteristics of Prophet Muhammad, and the number 10,000 could be a possible reference to the number of the Companions of Prophet Muhammad who entered Makkah victoriously.

Cited from Vidyarthi. Muhammad in World Scriptures. New Delhi: Adam Publishers, 1990.
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