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I posted this on another site,but since I know so many ex muslims here,I want to post it here..........

I have been reading this forum for months in awe.First I hated this place,it made me think about things I did not want to think about.I hated the people because some of you more than others made me question things I had never questions before.In truth my doubts probably started a little earlier.....

I am an ethnic Chechen,I was born in a Grozny hospital during a peaceful time.I lived as a normal child until 1994 at the dawn of the first Chechen war.I remember bombs,seeing things people should never see and I hope no child ever has to again.It lasted less than 2 years but to a civilian,it seemed forever.However life went back to normalness in some respects although I along with everyone else was haunted with the memories.Everything was going along until 1999,the second Chechen war and to this day,the war never officially ended.

I started to question things.The Quran and Bible said God loves us,yet he let us die.He gave muslims the right to do horrible things.The Saudis who came to "help us" started cutting women and mens heads off and stoning them to death,hanging people in the town square for everyone to see.I asked my parents why? They only said it is the will of Allah,dont question it.....

As I grew older,I became a Mujahideen,like most boys,I fought for Allah and my people bravely.I fought without ever really knowing if Allah was there or even gave a care about us.He certainly was not helping,people were starving to death while the leaders ate well.We lived in the woods and many gave up their lives for us.I buried them in hypocrisy.I buried them with prayers but wondering to myself,did they go to Paradise or do they cease to exist after death?Or better is death unknowable to the living?

I moved to the US at the age of 16.I have been here for years now.I married an Palestinian woman and we have kids.I live as a normal Muslim,but a hypocrite.Saying I believe in Allah and Mohammed is the messenger but I dont really know for a long time if anyone is there or listening to me.I went to the west bank with my wife to see her family and thats when I became atheist.For the first time I saw what religion does to people.The Jews keep Palestinians in a bad place because they believe they have a divine right,and muslims kill Jews for the same exact reason.

I look on many websites for truth and understanding.I found this place which I hated and have come to see as hopefully a place to let go of the fear of hell and become the person I truly want to be.My wife does not know about my belief but she may divorce me.I just hope to meet someone with similar experiences.If you read all this,thank you very much.For now I have to go and hide before other Muslims find me and kill me for Apostasy :P and before you guys start going :wacko: for reading all this.
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Welcome Chechen

Your post was a very moving read, you were in the Mujahideen before you were even sixteen? Well, I am glad you examined your religion with an open mind in spite of your traumatic experience.

Or better is death unknowable to the living?
I think death is unknowable to us, but at least you have made good out of your life.
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Welcome, dear Chechen, to the world of humanity. It feels great to have you amongst us.
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Welcome to FFI and have a wonderful and safe life ahead.
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Welcome

The situation in Chechnia is truly truly disgusting, a people and way of life have been once again hijacked not only by Islam, but by Islamism and Jihadi culture. I hope one day to see the people of chechnia liberate themselves from these parasitic leaders that plague them. May it one day happen for you.

Anyway, welcome, enjoy the forum, read shocking statistics and articles and watch cool videos!

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Chechen, the Mujahideen Starts a thread with a Bomb
..Mujahideen leaving Islam..
Wait.. wait.. dear Chechen., there is so much to read and so much to learn from you., You can leave Islam but you could still be a very active Mujahideen ., We will discuss about that later., but let me pick up paragraph by paragraph of your post..
I posted this on another site,but since I know so many ex muslims here, I want to post it here..........
You mean to say., you know so many ex_Ms here and it is your FIRST POST?? why?? how come you didn't join before??
I have been reading this forum for months in awe. First I hated this place,it made me think about things I did not want to think about.
Well I too hate this place and people some time., but you know,we have some responsibilities..
I hated the people because some of you more than others
Tell me the names of these guys, I will take care of them dear Chechen, :lol: RASCALS troubling many, I will warn them... ban them...

But I tell you,. please.... you must write more, read more. There is so much to learn from you. A case of Chechen Islamic Mujahideen is a very interesting one to understand and to think what best one can do to remove Mr. Muhammad's Islam out of the minds people like Chechen Mujahideens. People like you are classic examples, and I am hoping to read more than just one post. In fact I will be asking more questions from your1st post itself..

with best wishes
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Anksel,Yes I started in the Mujahideen in the age of 11.My father was one,but he died when I was almost 13.I had no one left as my mother had died during air raids by Russian forces.I had no one left but got the chance to go to the US when I was 16.It was a bit like,the enemy of my enemy is my friend.America is Russias biggest enemy so it was a natural selection although I do not hate Russians anymore,all my hatred is gone now.

FinallyFree,yes it can get to you sometimes.Its hard for me to reconcile what has happened but I can not procrastinate,I was once part of the Jihad machine that roles along.I am just afraid that it will never be ok again.Chechens are kidnapping tourist who wish to help us because under Jihad,everyone is fair game (or so we were told by the clerics.)

Yeezevee,I did not sign up earlier because I was afraid,I was afraid to admit to myself that I was already an apostate in my heart.I was afraid to let myself believe that leaving Islam was a reality.I was always afraid of hell fire but finally convinced myself it was necessary to be honest with myself.I dont take part in Mujahideen activity anymore,I left that life years ago and I am glad I did.

I think the Chechen mujahideen are the same as the Saudi conterparts.We had Turks,Saudis,Egyptians,Persians and various others fighting with us.Most were either Salafi or Wahabi.I was just a normal Sunni at the time,I was lucky their rhetoric could not get into my head and influence my thinking.

Thanks everyone who commented,the support makes me feel hopeful :)
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Welcome, Chechen! Good to have you here!

Well done - good on you for leaving Islam! I hope your life in future will have more positive experiences than you have had so far.
Best wishes, and looking forward to seeing more of your posts!
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Welcome,I know the Russian army are not exactly saints to say the least.
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Welcome, dude!

I too am an apostate, been one for a year now.

:)
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Welcome, dude!

I too am an apostate, been one for a year now.

:)
Superman .. the Prince of Superman ., Why did you became an apostate? what reasons and grudge do you have against Islam to move out of its fold?? and welcome to ffi

with best wishes
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yeezevee wrote:
Welcome, dude!

I too am an apostate, been one for a year now.

:)
Superman .. the Prince of Superman ., Why did you became an apostate? what reasons and grudge do you have against Islam to move out of its fold?? and welcome to ffi

with best wishes
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A multitude of things.

Main ones being the Quran and its many errors, Mohammed's lust for power and disturbing affection for a little girl. This shows me Islam is not from God, just from Mohammed's mind.

To a lesser extent, Muslim hypocrisy. Muslims who live in the west yet constantly criticize the same country they live in for what they percieve to be a war on Islam.

The use of Quran as justification for killing innocent people like infidels, apostates, etc.

All the while claiming to be a religion of peace.
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I have said this before and I'll say it again. Mostly ignorant people,(that is, people who can't read, or cruise the internet) and people who love violence (like guys in prison) are attracted to islam. I knew islam was truly a false religion when I started seeing the murder pornography so prevalent in muslim societies. Which, by the way, is directly related to the hate that islam teaches. A couple of hours ago, I just about looked at another beheading video out of SWAT valley.It was over at Weasel Zippers web site. The demon of islam is a demon that demands blood. And if the blood of the infidel is too hard to get, then the blood of another muslim will do. :heh:
Isn't that Obama one ignorant SOB? You can see the knee-pads under his slacks if you look closely enough.(during his cairo speech). I wonder if his baloney is going to win over the muslim worlds opinion.... :???:
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Of course it's not. But he doesn't really have much of a choice at this point.
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Welcome to humanity Mr Chechen. I am Kenmirzz, an ex muslim like you too.

I hope that more and more Vainakh people ( The Ingushes and Chechens) are leaving this barbaric religion of savagery. I used to live with the Vainakh people during my university days. You people possess your own tradition and custom that worth to be proud of. Do not let Islam eradicate your beautiful culture. I hope the influx of many Chechen and Ingushes to the salafi doctrine of fundamentalistic Islam will be halted. The Vainakh deserve better than succumbed under Islam. After communism, Islam is another threat that has caused many innocent Vainakh youths to be drifted away drowning themselves under the current of hatred and bigotry.

Humanity is but one family. :)
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I started to question things.The Quran and Bible said God loves us,yet he let us die
Yeah are you by any chance aware that baby's get born? And that we(humans) are not immortal?
As I grew older,I became a Mujahideen,like most boys,I fought for Allah and my people bravely.I fought without ever really knowing if Allah was there or even gave a care about us.He certainly was not helping,people were starving to death while the leaders ate well.We lived in the woods and many gave up their lives for us.I buried them in hypocrisy.I buried them with prayers but wondering to myself,did they go to Paradise or do they cease to exist after death?Or better is death unknowable to the living?
Dunno have you ever seen a dead guy coming back from the death?
For the first time I saw what religion does to people.The Jews keep Palestinians in a bad place because they believe they have a divine right,and muslims kill Jews for the same exact reason.
No the palestinians dont have the same reason, it was their ground. Jews however think they gonna get the land because some guy in the bible promised them.

You know something like: My mom says that i can have your car and if you ask why mom says its okay :tongueout:
My wife does not know about my belief but she may divorce me.
Ah she married you for a passport? NICE :*)
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No the palestinians dont have the same reason, it was their ground. Jews however think they gonna get the land because some guy in the bible promised them.

You know something like: My mom says that i can have your car and if you ask why mom says its okay.
Wrong analogy. There was never a nation in existent that was called: "Palestine". The land was inhabited by the Jews and Arabs for thousand of years. The Arabs have many nations surrounding the disputed area. Most of the so called Palestinians now are in fact Jordanian.

My question: Why denied the right of co-existence side by side with the Jews? Arabs have many nations around Israel, why dont they accept the Palestinian as their brother in race and brother in religion by accepting their migration to the Arabs' territory?

You will have no answer because the Arabs themselves are busy decapitating one another rather than helping their Palestinian brothers. The Jews merely wish to own such tiny piece of land which is also their ancestral legacy for more than 3000 years. The Arabs came later and settled there probably after the conquest of Jerusalem by Islamic invaders.

Having said this, my compassion to all those innocent persons from both sides, Jews and Arabs, that died during their confrontation for more than 60 years.

Humanity is but one family. :)
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Hi Chechen, if you are still around, I would like to discuss with you Voynu na kavkaze
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