Ram wrote: luca wrote:
thank u dear Ram for your advices.
i really didnt know about this things.thank u for light me and tell me this things.mean a lot for me now finnaly discover this man cant be in love not even swear on Quran or God.things who did them but...i couldn`t belive in full way those words.
thank u again and yes,i will stay away.
now i understand much better when i hear muslims peoples dont have realtions of friendship with a woman before marriage.
u know when i find answears i feel much better and thanks God cz He put peace in my heart.
here,on this forum i learn a lot of things and this is great!
Luca, I was born in the province of Sind in India, now its in Pakistan. I know Muslims very well.........I speak Sindhi, Urdu and Panjabi...........languages also spoken by the majority of Muslims in Pakistan. I understand their mentality. Muslims understand things very differently from non-Muslims. It is one way street with Muslims. They only take, never give. Muslims do not get along with anyone.....not even with one another.
Take the word 'tolerance', for example. For us the word means that we accept that people have different faiths and we should all respect one another. For a Muslims, the same word means that you give Muslims special rights, for example, special prayer spaces, which are denied to the rest of the society. Muslims have complete freedom of religion in non-Muslim countries, but Muslims will never give us the same freedom in the countries where they are in majority. Even the Muslims living in the West and enjoying equal rights, do not accept that non-Muslims should have the reciprocal rights in Muslim majority countries.
I do not want to brag, but I have a very good understanding of Islam and the thinking of Muslims.
is very true what u say and also what kenmirzz said too.
about what u say a non-muslim is not free in a muslim world i m totaly agree.i have a friend who leave islam to be christian.i know his story. he leave his country and live in mine.he is free and very happy now but with a big hole in his heart.he cant see his family anymore cz his country condamn him to death.i say this story to a priest muslim.i dont know how to write this in arabic(apologise for this).i tell this in other comment of mine if i remember well.anyway when i say this he yell at me and call my friend a lier.that scare me and hurt me but i keep tell him that is a real story.i know well when a muslim leave islam is not easy for him.i know if i m a christian and if i live in a muslim country will not be easy also but...maybe easyer then someone who leave his "muslim religion".
this is not fair.God give us a heart and a brain to use in right way and choose what real God want u to choose.God can be angry if we dont choose Him,not if we dont choose a religion.
also u said muslim in non-muslim country is free to belive in his religion.is very true.i respect this and many do the same.i never hear in my country for example,somebody to accuse a muslim cz belive in Mohamed.even is not agree,but will never put a gun on a muslim head.
but,i saw muslim who respect my country and christian,and other even they live here in a different coulture and religion they act like animal when is about christian.they consider we are blind and sinner and in all ways,but muslim are good.they dare to say this front of everybody cz they belive if u are a muslim u can be so special and right.this is unffair!
a relligion can make u to be human?i dont think so.for example i saw in a short documentary movie how a fat old evil woman who use name of God and Jesus,and call herself a christian(shame on her),and teach children to see in muslim peoples a enemy.they sing songs about how to kill muslim cz this is God wish.this happend in us.so shame and wrong.that fat frog woman is a sick and have a hundred devils in her.i wonder why anybody dont do anything.bcz in bible dont say this for our days.Jesus advise us to love our enemy and pray for them more.bcz they need love and understanding cz they are blind even they have eyes.
i give u this sample cz as u can see not a religion can make u better if u belive u are bad.i dont know why this things happend everywhere.only God can know this.but i also belive God can use something bad to construct upon that something wonderful.
ill tell u another short story.apologise if i boring u but ,i feel i want to share.i will make it short even is not.:)few years ago i meet a boy who didnt know how to smile.he live on street cz he didnt have parentes.only a step father who is in jail .
his mother married second time cz first husbant died.the second husbant like to drink.in one day he drink so much and he kill his wife in a brutal way.he cut her body in many pieces.the boy was out to play with kids.he back home cz he want to use toilet.when he was near to his home see many cars of police.he enter in home thru a window cz police didnt allow him to enter on door.he saw his mother spreaded and a father with handcuffs.that affect him bad.he have 10 y o.and go on streets long time.a family addopt few boys from street and he was one of them.in few years he start to smile.never laugh!!!but was a great step.what happend to him was cruel.but not this is my point.when he have 16 y o he go in jail to visit his father.he want to tell step father,that he offer his forgive cz he kill his mother and in his heart is no hate and anger anymore.he start to visit his father very often.this is LOVE!who can give u this love?only GOD.this boy find who is God and what mean to forgive.to forgive somebody who kill somebody u love more then anything,a mother...i think this is angelic.this can be impossible for a person who dont love first of all God.so...i wonder my self if a muslim can forgive in this way...
i put this question in my head and now i put u.this can be possible in islam world?
i know in christian world can be possible but not who born in christian religion.only who live like a christian and understand perfectly what mean to love God.in this way is easy to forgive somebody cz when u forgive u have peace in u and u can live your life and be happy.
if we dont forgive,why God have to forgive us?
also i know muslim pronnounce tollerance and forgiveness but they not act like what this word mean.now,how can i belive islam is so "wonderful"if they act like this?
i dont want to insult anybody here.i just try to understand why some peoples act like this.and why accept a lie easyer.they belive the revange is more sweet then a forgive?i guess yes.i m not agree with revange,hate,intolerance...but with some muslim persons i talk they consider is so right to revange,hate somebody.they think this is justice...
anyway dear friends,this are my thots...
God bless u all with a warm heart!!!:)