no mosque exist prior to islam.
•Masjid Al Aqsa was the second Masjid on earth
•It was built 40 years after the Ka'ba in Makkah
•Most scholars are of
the opinion that Masjid Al Aqsa was first built by Prophet Adam.
•Ibrahim (as) rebuilt the Masjid Al Aqsa in Jerusalem as he and Ismail rebuilt the Ka'ba in Makkah.
•Prophet Daud (as) began the rebuilding of
Masjid Al Aqsa.
•It was Prophet Sulayman (as) who finally completed the building of
Masjid Al Aqsa.
•Masjid Al Aqsa built by Sulayman (as) was destroyed in 587 BC by Nebuchadnezzar King of
•The Jews call this same Masjid Al Aqsa built by Sulayman as their Temple.
•The Jews re-built their Temple on them same site in 167 BC but was destroyed in 70 AD and Jews banished from Jerusalem.
•The site of
Masjid Al Aqsa remained barren and was used as a rubbish tip for nearly 600 years until the Great Khalifah Umar bin Khattab liberated Jerusalem in 637/8 AD.
•The Khalifah Umar bin Khattab began the foundation of
Masjid Al Aqsa and a timber mosque was built.
•The Umayyad Khalifah, Abd' al Malik ibn Marwan in 691/2 [72/73 AH] began the construction of
, Dome of
the Rock - today this is the Golden Domed Mosque.
you're inventing a conspiracy toward Jews.
The barbaric shepherds Jews are the people of
Ezra son of Allah that is muslims falsification. jews can only take credit for their own BS. this is not one of them.
The discussion which the prophet Mohammed <PBUH> made with Christians and Jews showed that many Jews, at this time, worshipped Ezra.
I know that The Jews now worship Jehovah who eats, drinks wine, repents and has human traits.
I like this god.
Ok, like this man as you desire but do not attack Islam.
islam is based on these lies. duh. islam is a lie sucker!!!
Look first at your false Bible <the book of
evils> then attack Islam.
You are jealous of
Islam because it <Islam not Judaism
> is the fastest-growing religion in the world.
Perish in your rage.
You have to prove to us that he was indeed sinless and was really a prophet before you use such arguments to draw conclusions that muhammad can never act contrary to laws of quran.
I dont see an answer to my point.You clubbed what I wrote here with the next point I made to make it look as if you have answered my point but I see you didnt bother to answer what I wrote.
I answered and mentioned tafsir of
Know it! For sure, there is no god but Allah! Seek forgiveness for your sins as well as the sins of the believing men and the believing women. Allah is Aware of their movement on earth, and their places of residence!.
So Muhammad did sin and hence your author is a liar.
Tafsir Al Jalalyn:
[Know, then, that there is no god except God, that is to say, adhere, O Muhammad (s), to knowledge of
this [fact] that will benefit you at the Resurrection, <and ask forgiveness for your sin >— this was said to him, despite his infallibility
(‘isma), so that his community might emulate him [in this respect]. Indeed he did do this. The Prophet (s) said, ‘Verily I do ask God for forgiveness a hundred times every day’]
so the prophet Mohammed wants to educate his nation<muslims>
So now tafsir of Al Jalalyn becomes reliable when you need it but it isnt reliable when it exposes your fake prophet! This is called hypocrisy. Dont you see a problem with this? Muhammad bin lying quoted tafsir of Al - jalalyn and you dismissed it.
Because this thing whose name is bin lying mentioned Tafsir without the historical context of
http://www.islamicsearchcenter.com/arch ... ommit-sin/
A token of humility and modesty:
Btw cant a simple question cross your mind? If muhammad didnt sin and was infallible why should he ask for forgiveness?
the morals taught to man by Islam is also this: however hard and sincerely may man be trying to serve and worship his Lord and fighting and struggling in the cause of
His Religion, he should never be involved in the misunderstanding that he has done and accomplished whatever he was required to do. Rather, on the contrary, he should have the feeling that he has not been able to do full justice to what was expected of
him by his Lord and Master. Therefore, he should confess his errors constantly and pray to Allah saying ‘Lord, forgive me for whatever fault and error I may have committed in Your service.” , this is indeed the essence of
Allah’s Command: ‘O Prophet. ask forgiveness for your fault ..” And in Hadith we find Holy Prophet (صلى الله عليه و سلم) praying exactly on the same lines, e.g.
اللَّهُمَّ اغْفِرْ لِي مَا قَدَّمْتُ وَمَا أَخَّرْتُ وَمَا أَسْرَرْتُ وَمَا أَعْلَنْتُ
“O Allah! Forgive me my sins that I did in the past or will do in the future, and also the sins I did in secret or in public.” (Sahih Bukhari, Hadith 5919)
This does not mean that the Holy Prophet had actually committed an error willfully, but its correct meaning is that it did not even behoove the servant who was the greatest worshiper of
his Lord that he should harbor even a tinge of
the pride of
accomplishment in his heart, but his true position also was that in spite of
all his great and glorious services he should continue confessing his shortcomings before his Lord. It was under this state of
the mind that the Holy Prophet often implored his Lord for forgiveness.
One also needs to understand that for a person with more responsibility and greater honor, the standards are also different. Holy Prophet (صلى الله عليه و سلم) received direct revelations from the Almighty so he was supposed to be the best and at times when he had actually done no wrong as we can see, he was still admonished because of
the higher levels set for him.
Further, there is a Hadith that gives the answer of
the Holy Prophet (صلى الله عليه و سلم) as to why did he pray to Allah so much and seek His Mercy:
عن الْمُغِيرَةَ يَقُولُ قَامَ النَّبِيُّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ حَتَّى تَوَرَّمَتْ قَدَمَاهُ فَقِيلَ لَهُ غَفَرَ اللَّهُ لَكَ مَا تَقَدَّمَ مِنْ ذَنْبِكَ وَمَا تَأَخَّرَ قَالَ أَفَلَا أَكُونُ عَبْدًا شَكُورًا
Narrated Al-Mughira: The Prophet used to offer night prayers till his feet became swollen. Somebody said, to him,” “Allah has forgiven you, your faults of
the past and those to follow.” On that, he said, “Shouldn’t I be a thankful slave of
Allah)?” (Bukhari, Hadith 4459)
A teaching for the followers:
Holy Prophet (صلى الله عليه و سلم) used to ask Allah for forgiveness as a token of
his modesty and also to teach his companions and followers to do the same.
قَالَ أَبُو هُرَيْرَةَ سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقُولُ وَاللَّهِ إِنِّي لَأَسْتَغْفِرُ اللَّهَ وَأَتُوبُ إِلَيْهِ فِي الْيَوْمِ أَكْثَرَ مِنْ سَبْعِينَ مَرَّةً
Narrated Abu Huraira: I heard Allah’s Messenger saying.” By Allah! I ask for forgiveness from Allah and turn to Him in repentance more than seventy times a day.” (Sahih Bukhari, Hadith 5832)
Another narration makes it absolutely clear that he prayed to Allah this way as a token of
modesty and more importantly to teach his followers:
يُحَدِّثُ ابْنَ عُمَرَ أَنَّهُ سَمِعَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقُولُ يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ تُوبُوا إِلَى رَبِّكُمْ فَإِنِّي أَتُوبُ إِلَيْهِ فِي الْيَوْمِ مِائَةَ مَرَّةٍ
Ibn Umar narrated: I heard Allah’s Messenger saying, “O people ask Allah for forgiveness verily I ask Him for forgiveness hundred times a day.” (Musnad Ahmad, Hadith 17173)
The very words of
the Hadith above prove that he did and said this to inspire his followers to repent to Allah often.
Another interesting point we need to consider here is that Quran 48:2 quoted above which says all the past and future sins of the Holy Prophet (صلى الله عليه و سلم) are forgiven was revelaed in 6th year after Hijrah while Abu Huraira, who is the narrator of the hadith saying that Holy Prophet (صلى الله عليه و سلم) repented 70 times a day, accepted Islam and came to the Holy Prophet in the 7th year after Hijrah. This proves Holy Prophet (صلى الله عليه و سلم) prayed even after Allah that verse was revealed. This is enough to prove that it was only out of modesty and to teach the followers.
you can claim that muhammad didnt drink wine. You and I both have to prove our case . I shall prove it to you that indeed muhamamd was a fake prophet and he violated quran. I have done that below
Mere claims arent evidences.
No, the native Arabic dictionaries and the context of
Hadith are evidences.
I thought muhammad was a prophet of GOd and not ordinary man who would follow the same evil practices that a common man would follow. What is the difference between him and ordinary men if he did the same things as people during those times did ? Neither you nor muhammad understood that when you make tall claims like being a prophet of GOd for entire mankind then you are expected to bring reforms by abolishing the evil things and be a forerunner and not follow the same practices .How can be an example for entire mankind(especially us) in such a case?
It would be theft if the prophet Mohammed took the infidels' properties, which they brought with them in the war, without reasons as the infidels did with Muslims but taking the properties which the defeated army brought with them was never considered theft at their times.
Wine is a liquid that causes intoxication and if a particular liquid doesnt cause intoxication then it isnt wine at all and hence its incorrect to say that its wine
We believe in miracles. Allah has the ability to do any thing he wants so changing the wine of
the afterlife to nonintoxication is not a difficult thing.
SO either Allah made a mistake here or you need to accept that your book is stupid to the core.
You are stupid because you understand nothing. You just repeat after your priests like a parrot.
Btw I am not trusting the author because he is a christian but because he/she has quoted reliable arabic dictionaries.
The dictionaries which you mentioned are not native Arabic ones.
I made a mistake once . Neither were you correct when you claimed that Nabeez doesnt mean wine. Nabeez can mean wine.
Wiki islam also said this...
Hadiths which you put proves that the prophet did never drink wine.
Thats why your quran is in error. The statement that wine has more disadvantages than advantages is not completely true. If you have control then wine has more advantages than disadvantages but ofcourse you wont understand such a simple thing.
I ask you this question:
Do you want me to tell you about the numbers of
people who died of
drinking wine all over the world according to medical statistics?
You are pathetic fool. Having sex with a 9 year old kid is a sin . Dude get this thing in your head .Perfect men or sineless men cant be aroused by 9 year old kids. A 9 year old cant consent to sex so its rape as well paedophilia but I guess you would go on to say that its not a rape and 9 year old kids are mature to consent.
Oh, I really feel pity for your stupidity. The prophet Mohammed never did that.
Mention Hadith and I will explain it.
So you would defend muhammad if he had sex with a 9 year old kid? So essentially would you be def ending a criminal?? Having sex with a 9 year old kid is a crime.Btw if he lived today you wouldnt be able to welcome him because he would be in a jail for having sex with a 9 year old kid
Again, Mention Hadith and I will explain it.
So according you that Muhammad could perform miracles only if God allowed him but not otherwise .I suppose you want to tell me that quran doesnt say muhammad cant perform any miracle but rather it says that he can only by grace of Allah.So lets see one more verse from your fake quran so that your argument is put to rest for forever.
And We refrain from sending the signs, only because the men of former generations treated them as false: We sent the she-camel to the Thamud to open their eyes, but they treated her wrongfully: We only send the Signs by way of terror (and warning from evil).
Quran claims here that Allah never sent any signs with muhammad because the men of former generations treated them as false. So there you are exposed! YOur own quran says that muhamamd never performed any miracles so thank you for proving that quran is a lie.
You ignored the context of
the verse and why it was revealed.
Sa`id bin Jubayr said, "The idolators said: `O Muhammad, you claim that before you there were Prophets, among whom was one to whom the wind was subjugated, and another who could bring the dead back to life. If you want us to believe in you, ask your Lord to turn As-Safa' into gold for us.' Allah conveyed to him by inspiration (Wahy): `I have heard what they have said. If you wish, I will do what they say, but if they do not believe after that, the punishment will come down upon them, because after the sign has been sent, there is no room for speculation. Or if you wish, I will be patient with your people and give them more time.' He said:
(O Lord, give them more time.)'' This was also narrated by Qatadah, Ibn Jurayj and others. Imam Ahmad recorded that Ibn `Abbas said, "The people of Makkah asked the Prophet to turn As-Safa' into gold for them, and to remove the mountains (from around Makkah) so that they could cultivate the land. It was said to him (by Allah): `If you wish, I will be patient and give them more time, or if you wish, I will do what they are asking, but if they then disbelieve, they will be destroyed as the nations before them were destroyed.' He said,
(No, be patient and give them more time.) Then Allah revealed:
(And nothing stops Us from sending the Ayat but that the people of old denied them. ) An-Nasa'i also reported this from the Hadith of Jarir. Imam Ahmad recorded that Ibn `Abbas said: The Quraysh said to the Prophet , "Ask your Lord to turn As-Safa' into gold and we will believe in you.'' He said,
(Will you really do that) They said, "Yes.'' So he asked his Lord, and Jibril came to him and said: "Your Lord conveys His Salam to you and says, `If you wish, I will turn As-Safa' into gold for them, then whoever of them disbelieves after that, will be punished with a torment the like of which has never be seen in creation; or if you wish, I will open the gates of repentance and mercy for them.'''
As you can see, the pagans were asking for a mighty miracle, that the prophet Muhammad turn a mountain into gold, and that if he did so they would believe in him, Allah accepts this, however so there is a major condition, if the pagans still disbelieve after this then they would be given a very severe punishment that has not been done before, so therefore the prophet declined to perform the miracle in fear that the pagans would still not believe in him or his message which would mean their doom and destruction and the prophet did not want that hence he did not perform the miracle and hence the verse was revealed
What was the "plight" from which islam saved?? How do you know they were happy?
They were happy as we also feel happiness because we all embrace the best religion.
If you read the biography of muhammad it shows muhammad as the worst creature to have y born on earth. You havent backed up what you said .
So you read and know nothing about the prophet.
Who told you that one has to read biography before reading a tafsir? There is no such rule so stop bullsh!ting . Your lies arent going to work here.
This is the truth which you want to deny.
We quote the tafsirs and quotes from islamic scriptures. Muhhammad bin lying quoted tafsirs from AL- Jalalyn which clearly establishes the fact that your prophet was a hardcore criminal.
Neither you nor bin lying mentioned the historical context of
Rejecting Islam is not a problem but the main problem is breaking the treaties and combining with infidels and fighting Islam.
These are hollow claims unless you can back them with proofs.
The evidences are obvious.
Battles showed the combinations against Muslims.
Hadiths and Holy Quran show breaking treaties by infidels.
Muhammad did drink wine. You obviously didnt read the complete article of wiki islam.
The prophet Mohammed never did that.
Your prophet was the first muslim terrorist
Liar. The prophet Mohammed suffered from pains and conspiracies of
the barbaric infidels and people of
There is a hadith where you filthy prophet admitted himself being victorious through terror.
Be honest and mention Hadith in its full context:
Narrated Jabir bin ‘Abdullah: The Prophet said,
“I have been given five things which were not given to any one else before me.
1. Allah made me victorious by awe, (by His frightening my enemies) for a distance of one month’s journey.2. The earth has been made for me (and for my followers) a place for praying and a thing to perform Tayammum, therefore anyone of my followers can pray wherever the time of a prayer is due.
3. The booty has been made Halal (lawful) for me yet it was not lawful for anyone else before me.
4. I have been given the right of intercession (on the Day of Resurrection).
5. Every Prophet used to be sent to his nation only but I have been sent to a ALL mankind.”
Volume 1, Book 7, Number 331:
If you muslims had kept your religion to yourself none of us would have bothered you. You can worship whatever you want until you don't cause problems for others.
We will spread Islam, by good preach, all over the world
The followers of
Islam increase day after day especially in the west.
Islam will, one day, dominate the world. Allah has promised us.
Perish in your rage.
Who designs the designer?? If universe and other things cant come to existence on their own and require a creator then how can a complex entity like Allah come into existence on its own ?? If you say that Allah always existed then why cant anyone claim that universe always existed ? Remember we dont know what happened before big bang .
Allah is great god. Why we always say that he is god.
Because he creates but never is created.
More ever you ask me as to which God one will pray. Why cant anyone worship all the Gods one believes in???
You will find the answer from the holy Quran:
[22. If there were, in the heavens and the earth, other gods besides Allah, there would have been confusion in both! But glory to Allah, the Lord of the Throne: (High is He) above what they attribute to Him!]
91. No son did Allah beget, nor is there any god along with Him: (if there were many gods), behold, each god would have taken away what he had created, and some would have lorded it over others! Glory to Allah. (He is free) from the (sort of) things they attribute to Him!
Who has created the heavens and the earth, and Who sends you down rain from the sky? Yea, with it We cause to grow well-planted orchards full of beauty of delight: it is not in your power to cause the growth of the trees in them. (Can there be another) god besides Allah. Nay, they are a people who swerve from justice.
61. Or, Who has made the earth firm to live in; made rivers in its midst; set thereon mountains immovable; and made a separating bar between the two bodies of flowing water? (can there be another) god besides Allah. Nay, most of them know not.
62. Or, Who listens to the (soul) distressed when it calls on Him, and Who relieves its suffering, and makes you (mankind) inheritors of the earth? (Can there be another) god besides Allah. Little it is that ye heed!
63. Or, Who guides you through the depths of darkness on land and sea, and Who sends the winds as heralds of glad tidings, going before His Mercy? (Can there be another) god besides Allah.- High is Allah above what they associate with Him!
64. Or, Who originates creation, then repeats it, and who gives you sustenance from heaven and earth? (Can there be another) god besides Allah. Say, "Bring forth your argument, if ye are telling the truth!"
65. Say: None in the heavens or on earth, except Allah, knows what is hidden: nor can they perceive when they shall be raised up (for Judgment).
Lets get this straight that your prophet didnt have good intentions . He wanted to rob Caesar and Khosrau 1 year before the battle started between muslims and persians so one can clearly see his filthy intentions.
you didnt answer the point that I made . Muhammad had intentions to loot the romans a long back in 627 AD. How do you explain that??
why muhammad promised the wealth of romans and khosrau
Firstly, the prophet never began the policy of
Secondly, Hadiths which you put before never show that the prophet had intention or plan to make Persia or any other kingdom Muslim.
Why do we call or name the noble man Mohammed ''prophet''?
the reasons is that he had prophesied and foretold actions and events which really fulfilled after that.
He prophesied that Muslims would make Egypt <Misr> and Persia <Iran> Muslim countries.
All his prophecies really fulfilled so in Hadiths which you put before, the prophet made some prophecies.
Clean-shaven but with large moustaches, the two officers from Yemen came to Prophet Mohammad (saw) in Madinah. Abadhaweih said to him: "Khosrow Parviz, the king of kings, has written to Badhan, the governor of Yemen, commanding him to send us to take you to him. If you comply, Badhan will write to the king of kings interceding on your behalf. This will spare you a great deal of trouble. If you reject his order, you know how powerful he is. He is sure to destroy you and your people as well as your country."
Btw Where is the proof that king of persia was tyrant???
Prophet Mohammad (saw) did not like their appearance. He (saw) asked them who ordered them to shave their beards and their reply was: "Our Lord", meaning Khosrow Parviz. Prophet Mohammad (saw) said: "But my Lord has commanded me to wear a beard and to trim my moustache." He also asked them to wait till the following day when he was to meet them again. In the meantime, Prophet Mohammad (saw) received information through the angel Gabriel (Jabra'il) that Allah (SWT) had caused Khosrow Parviz to be killed by Shirweih, his own son, giving him the exact time of night and the date when Khosrow Parviz was killed in Persia.
Prophet Mohammad (saw) called in the Persian messengers and told them of the killing of their King. They said to him: "Do you realize what you are saying? Your arrest has been ordered for something much more trivial than this. Do you still wish us to write this down and inform governor Badhan of what you have just said?"
Prophet Mohammad (saw) replied: "Yes. Tell him also on my behalf that my religion and my kingdom will replace that of Khosrow Parviz and will sweep all before it. Tell him also that if he accepts Islam, I will give him what he has now under his authority and will make him a ruler in the area he now governs." Prophet Mohammad (saw) also gave Kharkharah a sack of gold and silver that was sent to him as a present by another king.
The two envoys left and went back to Yemen where they told Badhan of what Prophet Mohammad (saw) had said. He told them: "This is not the sort of thing a king would say. To my mind, the man is a prophet, as he claims. If he is, what he has just told you will come to pass. If it is true that Khosrow Parviz has been killed, the man is a prophet and a messenger. If not, we will make up our mind about what to do with him."
Presently Badhan received a message from Shirweih informing him that he had killed his father, Khosrow Parviz after he had adopted despotic measures against the Persian nobility. He also commanded him to ask his commanders to swear allegiance to him as the new King. He further asked him not to disturb Prophet Mohammad (saw) until he had received further instructions.
Badhan then realized that Muhammad was truly God's Messenger. He called Abadhaweih in and questioned him further about Prophet Mohammad (saw). The latter told him that Prophet Mohammad (saw) did not keep any guard to protect him from his people or from anyone else. "Nevertheless, I have never spoken to a man who has inspired me with awe as much as he does." Badhan was then certain that Muhammad was truly the Messenger of God and he communicated his conviction to his advisers and counselors. He declared that he wished to become a Muslim and they all joined him in accepting the message of the Prophet Mohammad (saw).This was the beginning of the spread of Islam in Yemen. The majority of its population, Christians and Magians alike, started to accept Islam. They conveyed this to Prophet Mohammad (saw) and he sent them some of his companions to teach them the principles of Islam and instruct them in how to lead an Islamic life.
Its not a modest statement when muhammad said he is a slave of Allah
He is very modest.
Where is this answer?
Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has “come not to send peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34
Then why didn't they spread their religion through healings like the first apostles did after Jesus? If they felt happy, they would having willingly converted and no sword would be needed like people did at the beginning of Christianity before it became politicized.
Jesus says, “Don’t imagine that I came to bring peace on earth! No, rather a sword lf you love your father, mother, sister, brother, more than me, you are not worthy of being mine.
Families will be torn apart because of
Jesus. “Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." Matthew 10:21
It is Muhammad who later invented a lie and tried to hijack Judaism and Christianity.
It is the barbaric Jews falsified the truth to be suitable for their desires.The distorted Gospel itself proves that you are liars.
Why? Because you need it to be that way?? It's a rather pointless statement if you can't explain why that is true. Just making a claim means nothing. Here, watch this. "Your wrong". See?? I can make claims out of nowhere as well. It's easy. But it's a meaningless statement unless I explain WHY you should be thought to be wrong. Can you understand that?? Has anybody ever explained that to you?? I don't think anybody has or else it would be common sense to you.
Not I who ignore the truth but you when you do not complete your stories.
2) Read the hadiths?? Do you mean like this hadith where Muhammad tells us the sun orbits the earth everyday and then makes a prophecy about the sun reversing it's course causing it to rise in the west and then tells us that this is the meaning behind 38:36?? Didn't he mean to say that the spin of the earth will reverse rather than the sun's course reversing?? A reversal of the sun's course will not cause it to rise in the west, but this just so happens to be what people of the 7th century mistakenly thought before they realized that the earth spins. How could someone make an impossible prophecy that clearly misunderstands the nature of the earth and sun and what creates day and night and then say God told them this?
Many prophecies of
the prophet Mohamed fulfilled so we never suspect his prophecies.
Who can imagine one day that there is fire under the sea?
The prophet Mohammed told us in 7th century
that there is fire under the sea and sea under the fire but the modern science of 19th and 20th
century discovered that there is really volcanoes under the seas and oceans.
Why only some tafsirs and how do we decide which ones to read and which ones we shouldn't read?? But then again, i already know the answer to that question.
According to many Muslim scholars, we accept only tafsirs which cope with the tolerant soul of
There are tafsirs which do not cope with Islam so we do not accept it.
that's you. If you're not reading the Quran and repeating it like a mindless parrot, then please tell me what you thought when Allah said "I swear by the stars that run their course and hide themselves". How does the course that the stars travel cause them to be hidden from us?? It's the earth's spin that causes this. Yet another blatant error that you simply float over as though you were hypnotized. Think about it. It's right in front of your face, waving at you, winking at you, waiting to be noticed, but you're hypnotized and simply cannot see it or simply refuse to see it.
this verse show and the commentators also say that by these verses it is meant those planets, which can be seen (mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn), because they are in motion, they appear sometimes and sometimes they disappear. In the Holy Quran reference of
those stars is given with an oath; and people’s attention is drawn towards their special and distinct behavior and their movement and rotation and it calls attention towards the greatness of
the Creator of
the universe. This means, the type of
those returning stars which moving and disappears.
We should also know that experts of
astronomy have given those stars the name of
“amaze stars” because, their movements are not on a straight line, and it seems that, they travel for certain period of
time and then slightly they return, and again they continue their travel. The reason of
this behavior is discussed at length in the books of
astronomy and it is possible that the indication of
above-mentioned verses (which has mentioned about those stars in the style which are moving and coming back) may be towards these stars’ capricious way (no doubt the way of
this capricious travel has some logic which is beyond our comprehension at present).
Anyhow, these are the same wandering stars, whose special behavior makes them distinct
Many Jews, in the time of the prophet Mohammed, worshipped Ezra not one god. I know that The Jews now worship Jehovah who eats, drinks wine, repents and has human traits.
Who told you this?? What is your basis?
Your posts show to me that you do not read this debate from the beginning.
I wrote the discussion which happened between the people of
Book <Jews and Christians> and the prophet Mohammed.
The Jews defended Ezra.
The Christian Delegation from Najran
While the war of words was raging between Muhammad and the Jews in full intensity, a delegation from the Christians of Najran consisting of sixty riders arrived in Medina. Among them were some of the nobles, learned men, and religious leaders of the tribe whom the emperors of Byzantium had been protecting, encouraging, financing, and assisting in the building of churches. .......... The three scriptural religions thus confronted one another in Medina. The delegation entered with the Prophet into public debate and these were soon joined by the Jews, thus resulting in a tripartite dialogue between Judaism, Christianity and Islam. The Jews were obstinately denying the prophethood of Jesus as well as of Muhammad, as we have seen earlier, and pretending that Ezra was the son of God. The Christians were defending trinitarianism and the divinity of Jesus. Muhammad was calling men to recognize the unity of God and the spiritual unity of mankind...........Muhammad criticized both Jews and Christians in very strong terms for their compromise of the monotheistic faith that God is one, for tampering with the words of God in their scriptures, and for interpreting them in ways violating the understanding of the prophets whose prophethood they themselves acknowledged
[ excerpts from Historical Development of the Holy Quran]
It was to this message that Muhammad summoned Jews and Christians alike. Muslim relationships with the former were already under the governance of
the Covenant of
Madinah. Those of
the latter depended upon the Christians' response to Muhammad's invitation. Though they did not join Islam at this time, the Christians resolved neither to oppose Muhammad nor the missionary activity of
his followers. Appreciating the perfect justice of
Muhammad's new order, they asked him to appoint for them a Muslim to act as judge in their own disputes at home. Muhammad sent with them Abu `Ubaydah ibn al Jarrah, who was vested with the proper judicial authority.
I think it's a miracle that you ignore the verse where Allah swears by the stars that run their course and hide themselves. As far as the scientist go, this is a tremendous, money making scam for them. Muslims are so desperate for educated scientists to say good things about the Quran, that all a scientist has to do is to say something remotely good, and his work will sell like hotcakes all over the ignorant, backwards, uneducated Arab world and he will make a ton of money. People such as yourself are their ignorant stooges and deep down inside they probably laugh at how gullible you are. But a desperate need for something to be true will make someone tremendously gullible.
Too many non-Muslim scientists embrace Islam because of
the scientific miracle.
I think you are not too civilized to know that.
Have you ever read the hadith that said that when Ayesha was menstruating, the prophet used to rest his head on her lap and read the Quran??
course but there is a problem about that.
Islam never considers women, who are menstruating, filthy being like your distorted Bible.
Every single one of those has been debunked and that's the subject of a whole other topic by itself. You're being lied to, big time. For example, because man walks on the moon, that means the moon has been split open?? Huh?? Look at the wishful thinking and stretching and distorting that is going on. Can you see it?? I guess not.
Soon I will talk about each miracle and show your lies.
He asked you where there is a mention of beheading Muhammad, then you call him stupid, and then you never provide that mentioning. So he is right because you couldn't back up your claim and provide evidence.
Again read the whole discussion. You will find the evidence.
IBN Kathir, Al Jalalayn and IBN Abbas are among the MOST respected scholars, and they are the MOST respected scholars according to MOST MUSLIMS. So what in God's name could you possibly be talking about?? Geez, even when someone accurately quotes the most respected scholars, Muslims true to lie about it and cover it up. do you know why we should trust these scholars?? Because they are among the first and original Islamic scholars and they wrote honestly about the Quran because back then, nobody had any need to "whitewash" Islam and alter it to fit modern morality. It is the scholars of today that are lying and they have many motives to do so.
My filthy friends are the original and most respected scholars of Islam. Didn't you know that?? Do you even know what tafsir is?? It is scholarly commentary by Islamic scholars about the meaning of verses in the Quran. How could you call Islamic scholars my filthy friends?
Again,The filthy friends whom I mean are never the respectful Muslim scholars but I mean those who neither completed the story of
the king of
Persia <ringmaster> nor the story of
the Romans <skynightblaze>.
Because you still haven't sufficiently answered the problems it raises. What makes you think that you did??
No, I answered before but you do not read the whole discussion.
Well what did you think about the agreement with the Asham Christians where the Asham Christians outline all sorts of humiliations that they had to agree to in order to prevent Muslims from "doing what they will" to them? And they even said, "we agree to these things against ourselves". So it's i9n clear language that many humiliations were laid out to them and if they didn't humiliate themselves, Muslims could do whatever they wish with them and they are no longer protected. Protected from what?? From Muslims killing them like they did with the pagans. That was an historically documented agreement and you merely ignore it and live in denial.
What do you think about the treaty which the Christians did first with Muslims then betrayed it?
What do you think about the combination of
Romans <Christians> and infidels in order to fight against Muslims?
They had no reason to reinterpret and alter the meaning of the Quran because it wasn't so offensive to people's sensibilities of that time, but it IS offensive to the sensibilities of people in modern times. So who has more motive to alter the actual meaning of the Quran, the original scholars or modern scholars?? Think about it. You must have at least a few drops of common sense in you. Maybe not.
We never alter or change the meaning of
the holy Quran.
They gave historical context. For example, the agreement of dhimmitude between the Asham Christians and the conquering Muslims. What could you possibly be talking about??
But they did not complete the whole story. They did not say that the treaty was betrayed by the Christians.
That's what the Meccans did to Muhammad when he lived in Mecca and didn't have an army. Was that what the Christians of a far away land of Syria did to Muhammad?? Come on, quit with the nonsense excuses.
Mock me?? Listen dumb ass, the Quran itself says Jesus was never killed and instead was raised up, so therefore he is still alive and Islam talks about him returning. So you don't even know your own religion. Stupid ignoramus. You deserve every drop of disrespect that you are receiving from me. What a stupid "Mobot" you are. Have you ever even thought an original thought of your own in your entire life?? Are you honestly this hypnotized??
I know my religion well but you neither know Islam nor know Christianity.
Allah said in the holy Quran:
[4:156-159 "That they rejected Faith; That they uttered against Mary A grave false charge; That they said (in boast): 'We killed Christ Jesus The son of Mary, The Messenger of Allah.' But they killed him not, Nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not. Nay, Allah raised him up Unto Himself; and Allah Is Exalted in Power, Wise. And there is none of the people of the book (Jews and Christians) But must believe in him (Jesus) Before his death; And on the Day of Judgment He (Jesus) will be a witness Against them." ]
3:55 "Behold! Allah said: O Jesus! I will take thee And raise thee to Myself And clear thee (of the falsehoods) Of those who blaspheme; I will make those Who follow thee superior To those who reject faith, To the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, And I will judge Between you of the matters wherein ye dispute."
The end of
the life of
Jesus on earth is as much involved in mystery as his birth, and indeed the greater part of
his private life, except the three main years of
his ministry. It is not profitable to discuss the many doubts and conjectures among the early Christians sects and among Muslims theologians. The Orthodox-Christian Churches make it a cardinal point of
their doctrine that his life was taken on the Cross, that he died and was buried, that on the third day he rose in the body with his wounds intact, and walked about and conversed, and ate with his disciples, and was afterwards taken up bodily to heaven. This is necessary for the theological doctrine of
blood sacrifice and vicarious atonement for sins, which is rejected by Islam. But some of
the early Christian sects did not believe that Christ was killed on the cross. The Basilidans believed that someone else was substituted for him. The Docetate held that Christ never had a real physical or natural body, but only an apparent or phantom body, and that his crucifixion was only apparent, not real. The Marcionite Gospel (about A.C. 138) denied that Jesus was born, and merely said that he appeared in human form. The Gospel of
St. Barnabas supported the theory of
substitution on the Cross. The Quranic teaching is that Christ was not crucified nor killed by the Jews, not with standing certain apparent circumstances which produced that illusion in the minds of
his enemies; that disputations, doubts, and conjectures on such matters are vain; and that he was taken up to Allah Almighty.
That's talking human sons and human fathers, noit the relationship between the Heavenly father and the son. And Jesus very often and clearly distinguishes between the father on earth and the heavenly father.
Really, Do you think that I am too stupid and foolish like your people to believe these illogical things?
How do you say ''In The name Of
The Son, Father, and The Holy Ghost'' then say ''One God''?
The mathematic says:
But the mathematic of Christians says:
You consider 3 gods one god.
I advise Christians and Jews to read first their distorted Bible and to recognize their false religions then talk about the best religion <Islam>.
If we compare Islam to both Christianity and Judaism, your religions will be destroyed.
If we compare the holy Quran to Bible, Bible will be internationally banned and thrown in garbage.
I thank Allah, my god, for making me Muslim.
Oh, it's YOUR religion?? You own Islam?? Think about how stupid that statement was. Never mind, you can't. Are you your religion?? Does your religion go away when you die?? Think about it, blockhead. Why are Muslims so handicapped when it comes to reasoning??
It is my religion Islam which you want to distort but you fail.
You could try to show me an infinite amount of falsehoods that you claim are in the Bible, but what does that do to make Islam true?? Has it ever occurred to you that this does nothing to prove that Islam is true?? Of course it hasn't, because that is sound reasoning, and as a Muslim, you can't reason properly. So let's give an illustration of exactly what you are trying to do. Someone comes by and pokes a hole in your boat. So, what's your solution to fix the problem?? Do you fix the hole in your boat by plugging it up?? No, because for some stupid reason, you think that the most effective way to fix the hole in your boat is to try and poke a hole in someone else's boat. When we give a clear illustration or example like this, look at how utterly stupid your behavior looks. And yet, the IS precisely what you are attempting. See how stupid it is?? Who taught you how to reason?? Ask for your money back.
Bible is the book of
3-Violence and terrorism.
4-insulting the prophets.
so i should mock at you and your people.
Khalid wrote:Submit to Islam and be safe. Or agree to the payment of the Jizya, and you and your people will be under our protection, else you will have only yourself to blame for the consequences, for I bring the men who desire death as ardently as you desire life."
Again we see the same message.
So I don’t think Gibbon must be lying because We see the same message everywhere in islamic scriptures.All the tafsir scholars agree with the message of
Khalid and the verse which supports Khalid is 9:29 so in the light of
the proof its not unreasonable to believe what Gibbon quoted about the words of
Khalid . It isnt that such statements arent found in entire islamic history anywhere and Gibbon merely pulled this thing out of
you did not say that:
1-the king Hormuz was arrogant and evil man so the Arab in Iraq had detested him.
2-Abu-Bakr the caliph enjoined Khalid not to force any one in Iraq to embrace Islam.
I will post some quotes from biographies of muhamamad ,You earlier made a claim that to understand islam one must read the biography. Lets see what the biographies of Muhammad have to offer about the character of your prophet..
"'You obey a stranger who encourages you to murder for booty. You are greedy men. Is there no honor among you?' Upon hearing those lines Muhammad said, 'Will no one rid me of this woman?' Umayr, a zealous Muslim, decided to execute the Prophet's wishes. That very night he crept into the writer's home while she lay sleeping surrounded by her young children. There was one at her breast. Umayr removed the suckling babe and then plunged his sword into the poet. The next morning in the mosque, Muhammad, who was aware of the assassination, said, 'You have helped Allah and His Apostle.' Umayr said. 'She had five sons; should I feel guilty?' 'No,' the Prophet answered. 'Killing her was as meaningless as two goats butting heads.'"
Here Muhammad asked to kill the woman because she criticized him. How do you explain this?? I guess you would even claim here that the woman was a threat to muhammads life.
;Tabari VIII:179 Ishaq:550
"Among those who Muhammad ordered killed was Abdallah bin Khatal. The Messenger ordered him to be slain because while he was a Muslim, Muhammad had sent him to collect the zakat tax with an Ansar and a slave of his.... His girls used to sing a satire about Muhammad so the Prophet ordered that they should be killed along with Abdullah. He was killed by Sa'id and Abu Barzah. The two shared in his blood. One of the singing girls was killed quickly but the other fled. So Umar caused his horse to trample the one who fled, killing her."
"When the Apostle returned to Medina after his raid on Ta'if, word spread that he had killed some of the men who had satirized and insulted him. The poets who were left spread in all directions."
Al-Tabari and Ibn-Ishaq and other sources are extremely doubtful and unauthenticated. Most Muslim scholars today firmly and strongly believe in this. , as most Muslim Scholars agree, we Muslims can't take these Hadiths as absolute Truth or accurate information. Much of
these volumes are either corrupt or taken out of
context. Again, this is according to the Muslims scholars. This is why these volumes are considered "unauthenticated".
The falsehoods of Ibn Ishaq's many sayings:
Ibn Isḥaq has been accused of
being a Qadari and having Shi'i tendencies, as many have questioned his reliability.
In the hadith studies, which early Muslim scholars examined more seriously than biographical narratives, ibn Isḥaq is generally considered as a mudallis, meaning one who did not name his teacher, claiming instead to narrate directly from his teacher's teacher. Because of
this and other accusations, many scholars including Muhammad al-Bukhari hardly ever used his narrations. According to al-Khaṭīb al-Baghdādī, all scholars of
ahadith except one no longer rely on any of
ibn Isḥaq's narrations. Al-Dhahabī also concluded that any narration solely transmitted through ibn Isḥaq should probably be considered munkar
<forbidden>.  Others, like Ahmad ibn Hanbal, rejected his narrations on all matters related to fiqh.
Concerning his sīra, the most notable and widely discussed criticism was that of
his contemporary, Malik ibn Anas, who leveled many accusations against ibn Isḥaq. Malik rejected the stories of
Muhammad and the Jews of
Medina on ground that they were taken solely based on accounts by sons of
Jewish converts. These same stories have also been denounced as "odd tales" later by ibn Hajar al-Asqalani. Malik and others also thought that ibn Isḥaq relied too heavily on the Isra'iliyat. Furthermore, ibn Sallam al-Jumahi and ibn al-Nadim censured ibn Isḥaq for knowingly including forged poems in his biography, and for attributing poems to persons not known to have written a single line of
The falsehoods of Al-Tabari's many sayings:
Al-Tabari who included Ibn IssHaaq's book in his multi-volume Tarikh Al-Tabari has the following disclaimer in the introduction to the book:
"...if I mention in this book a report about some men of
the past, which the reader of
listener finds objectionable or worthy of
censure because he can see no aspect of
truth nor any factual substance therein, let him know that this is not to be attributed to us but to those who transmitted it to us and we have merely passed this on as it has been passed on to us."
Inaccurate, Twisted & Fabricated Stories about Prophet Mohammad:
1. The alleged murder of
2. The alleged torture of
Kinana Ibn Rabi Ibn Al-Huqaiq
3. The killing of
Sallam Ibn Abul-Huqaiq
4. The killing of
Sarah, a freed slave
5. The killing of
the Ten Meccans
6. The killing of
7. The Killing of
an anonymous One-Eyed Shepherd
8. The Killing of
Abdullah bin Khatal and His Two Singing Girls
9. The alleged killing of
Asma bint Marwan
10. Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.) said: "Will you listen to me O Quraish? By him who holds my life in His hand, I bring you slaughter." (Ibn IssHaaq, p. 130)
I don't deny that Al-Tabri and Ibn Ishac were respectful but many of
their speeches are not true and are not reliable.
Here is the complete story and that too by a muslim who has used muslim sources to make his claims..
What an excellent slave of Allah: Khalid ibn al-Walid, one of the swords of Allah, unleashed against the unbelievers!"
[Prophet Muhammad (SAWS)]1
Three months after his arrival at Madinah, Khalid got his chance to show what he could do as a soldier and a commander for the faith which he had just embraced. The Prophet had sent an envoy to the Ghassan 2 Chieftain of Busra, with a letter inviting him to join Islam. While passing through Mutah this envoy was intercepted and killed by a local Ghassan chieftain by the name of Shurahbil bin Amr. This was a heinous crime among the Arabs, for diplomatic envoys held traditional immunity from attack no matter how hostile a power they represented. The news of this outrage inflamed Madinah.
An expedition was immediately prepared to take punitive action against the Ghassan, and the Prophet appointed Zaid bin Harithah as the commander of the force. If he were killed, the command was to be taken over by Jafar bin Abi Talib. If he were killed, the command would devolve upon Abdullah bin Rawahah. Having appointed these officers in the chain of command, the Prophet said, "If all three of these are killed, let the men select a commander from among themselves." 3
The expeditionary force consisted of 3,000 men, one of whom was Khalid, serving as a soldier in the ranks. The mission the Prophet gave to Zaid was to seek out and kill the person responsible for the murder of the Muslim envoy, and to offer Islam to the people of Mutah. If they accepted Islam, they were not to be harmed. At the time this force was sent out the Muslims had no knowledge of the enemy strength that they would have to deal with.
Spirits were high as the expeditionary force began its march from Madinah. When the force arrived at Ma'an, reports were received for the first time that Heraclius, the Eastern Roman Emperor, was in Jordan with "100,000 Romans" and had been joined by "100,000 Christian Arabs"-mainly from the Ghassan. The Muslims remained in Ma'an for two days debating their next move. There was a certain amount of hesitation and nervousness. Some suggested that the Prophet be informed of the large strength of the enemy so that he could give them fresh orders on what course of action they should adopt; but Abdullah bin Rawahah (the third?in?command) did not agree with this suggestion, as it would entail unnecessary delay and would give the impression that the Muslims were afraid. He recited a few verses and made a stirring speech to raise the spirits of the men. He concluded by saying, "Men fight not with numbers or weapons but with faith. By going into battle we have a choice of two glorious alternatives: victory and martyrdom." 4 This speech dispelled all doubt from the minds of the Muslims, and they promptly resumed their march towards Syria.
The Muslims reached a place near the frontier of Balqa-a district in the east of what is now Jordan-where they made contact with a large force of Christian Arabs. Not finding this place suitable for battle, the Muslim commander withdrew his force to Mutah. The Christian Arabs followed the Muslims, and the two forces again met at Mutah. Both sides now decided to fight. It was the second week of September 29 (the third week of Jamadi-ul-Awwal, 8 Hijri).
Zaid deployed his force in the normal pattern of a centre and two wings. The right wing was commanded by Qutba bin Qatadah and the left wing by Ubaya bin Malik. Zaid himself commanded the centre, and in the centre, too, was Khalid. The battlefield lay to the east of, and stretched up to about a mile from, the present village of Mutah. The ground here was even, but had a slight undulation, and the gentle slope of a low ridge rose behind the Muslims as they faced the Christian Arabs to the north. 5
1. Tirmidhi and Ahmad from Abu Hurayrah, Sahih Al-Jami’ Al-Saghir No. 6776.
2. A large and powerful tribe inhabiting Syria and Jordan.
3. Ibn Sad: p. 636.
4. Ibn Hisham: Vol. 2, p. 375.
5. A new mosque is being built by the Jordanian Government to mark the site of this battle.
Look at the part in red. It says the disbelievers wouldn’t be harmed if they accept Islam which means they would harmed if they don’t. Your prophet was a terrorist and any person with common sense can see that!. Now this article has been written by a muslim and he has mentioned Islamic sources but I guess according to you anything that exposes your third class prophet must be false and move to defame your prophet.
Reading the red line only without reading the whole story means nothing.
The Muslim army went to revenge <the people of
Mutah killed the emissaries of
the prophet Mohammed> so those ,who killed the emissaries of
the prophet Mohammed, either were killed or embraced Islam.
1-If they did not accept Islam; they would be killed because they first killed the emissaries of
the prophet Mohammed.
2-If they accepted Islam, They would be exempted from revenge or they would not be harmed.
In the 2 cases, the prophet was right.
The prophet just wanted to invite them to Islam peacefully by sending emissaries to them but they murdered the emissaries.
Congratulations! Your evidences from Ibn-Hisham prove the aggression of
infidels on Islam and Muslims.
Neither are speeches of islamic historians 100 % accurate because they are bound to cover up lies of their prophet and save him embarrassment.
Anyway your entire islamic history is full with murderous quotes and they have been documented by islamic historians themselves so really have no choice but to accept that muhamamad was thug.
Any way your history also is full with terrorism and murder.
Hitler was one of them who said that islam is compatible with his belief.
Allah damns Hitler and his belief.