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Re: I'm living in hell.Please help me.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:30 am
by Trouper
Sten wrote:Christianity isn't supposed to have denominations either. The thing about sects is, every single one thinks that they are the only correct one. Every sect thinks that all the other sects are heretical. Every sect thinks that their particular interpretation of the Bible/Quran is the right one. Claiming that some people are Muslim and some people are not because of the sects they align themselves with, is nothing more than a no true scotsman fallacy.

Blaming one another is pointless when the religion declares in its scripture that there should be no sect. Allah founded Islam. Whoever believes in His religion is called "Muslim". It's very simple. Granted there is and will be disputes among Muslims, but we are not authorized at all to divide ourselves by inventing new names before or after "Muslim". I am a Muslim and I do not belong to any sect. Just being a Muslim isn't belonging to any sect.

Re: I'm living in hell.Please help me.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:14 am
by Sten
Trouper wrote:
Sten wrote:Christianity isn't supposed to have denominations either. The thing about sects is, every single one thinks that they are the only correct one. Every sect thinks that all the other sects are heretical. Every sect thinks that their particular interpretation of the Bible/Quran is the right one. Claiming that some people are Muslim and some people are not because of the sects they align themselves with, is nothing more than a no true scotsman fallacy.

Blaming one another is pointless when the religion declares in its scripture that there should be no sect. Allah founded Islam. Whoever believes in His religion is called "Muslim". It's very simple. Granted there is and will be disputes among Muslims, but we are not authorized at all to divide ourselves by inventing new names before or after "Muslim". I am a Muslim and I do not belong to any sect. Just being a Muslim isn't belonging to any sect.


But others would identify you with a particular sect, depending on which way your beliefs go. Every argument you use here can be used on any other religion - no religion is supposed to have sects, but its a fact of human nature that people will disagree and form their own groups. Jesus didn't create several different types of Christianity. These were formed by people's difference of opinion.

Re: I'm living in hell.Please help me.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:33 pm
by Saif al-Hafle Chai
Is this guy really trying to argue that Shi'a is not a form of Islam?

Re: I'm living in hell.Please help me.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:06 am
by Trouper
Saif al-Hafle Chai wrote:Is this guy really trying to argue that Shi'a is not a form of Islam?

Exactly.

Re: I'm living in hell.Please help me.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:09 am
by Saif al-Hafle Chai

Re: I'm living in hell.Please help me.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:13 am
by IkraSalimKhan
Vesta wrote:Thanks everyone.It's comforting to find so many people in the same situation as myself.The problem with living in an Islamic country is that it's almost impossible for a woman to have an independent life,A woman can't get a room in hotels alone.can't travel abroad without her father or husband's consent and people think that a young woman living alone is no better than a whore.Financial independence is like a joke for many women. >(


Im live in Pakistan.
Im a female too.
I get you mate. I so so get you.

Re: I'm living in hell.Please help me.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:50 pm
by tejpat
Trouper wrote:I indited earlier that there are no Muslim countries.


SO thereby you assert that islam has failed miserably to produce even a single islamic country for 1400 years ?
then what is the use of having such failed ideology which is futile till this date.
On the contrary, it is so vulnerable that it can and is been misused to harm the humanity severely.
why to protect such a fragile, futile thing like handling a nuclear material, can't use it and many will misuse it.

Re: I'm living in hell.Please help me.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:13 pm
by Trouper
tejpat wrote:
SO thereby you assert that islam has failed miserably to produce even a single islamic country for 1400 years ?


It is not Islam that should be blamed; it is the people.

Re: I'm living in hell.Please help me.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:06 am
by yeezevee
Trouper wrote:
tejpat wrote:
SO thereby you assert that islam has failed miserably to produce even a single islamic country for 1400 years ?


It is not Islam that should be blamed; it is the people.


Hmm.. That is one way to live life











Yap.. blame the people.. good to see you back Trouper...

Im living in hell Please help me

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:37 pm
by AlexmenCorn
That's awesome. I'm sure it's difficult to break away from modern living, but that is a fantastic existance