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Islam is not the religion of peace it claims to be

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 12:06 am
by Horns of Allah
Islam often claims to be the religion of peace, the Platonic faith that is the cure to all that is "immoral" and evil in this world.

This is a link to a blog post about why this is not the case:
https://metalpencraft.wordpress.com/201 ... -of-peace/

And this is a link to a blog post about why religion, especially Islam, has no authority on "sexual morality":
https://metalpencraft.wordpress.com/201 ... e-bedroom/

Re: Islam is not the religion of peace it claims to be

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2016 3:04 pm
by Chiclets
Nobody here knows you mofo, how about first introducing who you are, maybe what you do, and what your beliefs are, and then maybe start posting your links.

Re: Islam is not the religion of peace it claims to be

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:28 am
by HerbM
The thing I find most interesting about this "religion of peace" meme and myth is not that it's clearly untrue, but that there really is NO ARGUMENT or evidence for it in the Qur'an.

I actually asked this question here to confirm my failure to find such.

It's not like 2/3's of the Qur'an are violent & and warlike, and the other third argue against that but rather that the other third just contains material not relevant to such and argument (e.g., Bible stories, instructions on behavior, etc.)

Re: Islam is not the religion of peace it claims to be

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:23 am
by ISLAM_rules
Islam means peace. Silly kaffirum. Say the shahadda and learn what is peace. To have peace you need destroy all who want war on Islam. Islam is peace, so don't ly.

Re: Islam is not the religion of peace it claims to be

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:15 am
by Ariel
ISLAM_rules wrote:Islam means peace. Silly kaffirum. Say the shahadda and learn what is peace. To have peace you need destroy all who want war on Islam. Islam is peace, so don't ly.


No sweetheart. Perhaps where you live, they think and believe that Islam means peace, but the truth is that Islam means submission. Don't forget, otherwise your brothers and sisters and in Allah may think you are a retard.

Re: Islam is not the religion of peace it claims to be

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:25 am
by ISLAM_rules
you know nothing and you are the retard person. You are only a pig eating, drunk disgusting anamal. To speak you a Muslim you must learn first you bow down and ask for allow to speak.

Re: Islam is not the religion of peace it claims to be

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:47 am
by Ariel
ISLAM_rules wrote:you know nothing and you are the retard person. You are only a pig eating, drunk disgusting anamal. To speak you a Muslim you must learn first you bow down and ask for allow to speak.


Is that so sweetie, but my dear, in the country where I live, is the pact of Umar not in operation. So ;) I am not going to bow for a muslim, and when I meet a Muslim on the pavement, he is the one who has to step aside. BTW. All or most Muslims here work for the kafir. :) . Like sweeping the streets, or collecting trash. That must be frustrating.

Re: Islam is not the religion of peace it claims to be

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:11 am
by ISLAM_rules
You are a woman and you talk to strange man without permission, so you are prostitute, a dirty white skin whore. You smell of pork and alkohol. No manners. Put your naked picture here, I tell you how much people pay.

Re: Islam is not the religion of peace it claims to be

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:33 am
by Ariel
ISLAM_rules wrote:You are a woman and you talk to strange man without permission, so you are prostitute, a dirty white skin whore. You smell of pork and alkohol. No manners. Put your naked picture here, I tell you how much people pay.



I know sweetheart. You are soooooo funny. It must be very frustrating for you to see all those strong women in western countries. Women who are miles above you as to mental development and education. Women who can order you about, because they are your boss, and you have to do what they tell you to do. I know. :wink: Not nice at all. But that is because you are a Muslim, and you are not educated. I can see it at your posts. The only thing you can do is being abusive. You can't even have a normal discussion.

But anyway. I have to leave you now. Take care "ISLAM_rules, and behave.

Re: Islam is not the religion of peace it claims to be

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:51 am
by ISLAM_rules
no picture mean you are soooo ugly that you could be free gift on Daesh slave market.

Re: Islam is not the religion of peace it claims to be

PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 12:56 am
by Hombre
ISLAM_rules wrote:Islam means peace. Silly kaffirum. Say the shahadda and learn what is peace. To have peace you need destroy all who want war on Islam. Islam is peace, so don't ly.
Lets forgive him for mixing the word "Piece" with "Peace". He means Islam is a religion which cuts a piece of your boolbool for illicit sex. Or a piece from the vagina of 12 year old girls. Or cuts to pieces, those who wish to live in peace

Re: Islam is not the religion of peace it claims to be

PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 1:21 am
by Hombre
ISLAM_rules wrote:you know nothing and you are the retard person. You are only a pig eating, drunk disgusting anamal. To speak you a Muslim you must learn first you bow down and ask for allow to speak.
Is that you ISLAM_Rules who is bowing to Christians, begging them to let you in.


Re: Islam is not the religion of peace it claims to be

PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:50 am
by SAM


2:190 Fight in the way of God those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. God does not like transgressors.

2:191 And kill them wherever you find them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah [Persecution] is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.

Re: Islam is not the religion of peace it claims to be

PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:05 am
by Ariel
SAM wrote:
2:191 And kill them wherever you find them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah [Persecution] is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.


Oh, dear... :shock: How sad...Poor SAM. SAM has got the ISLAM_rules virus. That is bad. It can kill you SAM. :ermm:

Re: Islam is not the religion of peace it claims to be

PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 12:27 pm
by frankie
Sam:

:190 Fight in the way of God those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. God does not like transgressors.

2:191 And kill them wherever you find them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah [Persecution] is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.


Is that so, then Mohammed must have disobeyed Allah, which makes him a murtad

The Book of Jihad and Expeditions
(1)
Chapter: Permissibility of raiding the Kuffar, who have been reached with the call of Islam, without giving prior warning


Sahih al Muslim Book 19, Hadith 4292

Ibn 'Aun reported:
I wrote to Nafi' inquiring from him whether it was necessary to extend (to the disbelievers) an invitation to accept (Islam) before meeting them in fight. He wrote (in reply) to me that it was necessary in the early days of Islam. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) made a raid upon Banu Mustaliq while they were unaware and their cattle were having a drink at the water. He killed those who fought and imprisoned others. On that very day, he captured Juwairiya bint al-Harith. Nafi' said that this tradition was related to him by Abdullah b. Umar who (himself) was among the raiding troops.



Ibn Ishaq 690
Then they [the Jewish Qurayzah tribe] surrendered, and the apostle [Muhammad] confined them in Medina in the quarter of d. al-Harith, a woman of B. Al-Najjar. Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. Among them was the enemy of Allah Huyayy b. Akhtab and Ka’b b. Asad their chief. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900.” —


Tabari 9: 82
The Messenger sent Khalid with an army of 400 to Harith [a South Arabian tribe] and ordered him to invite them to Islam for three days before he fought them. If they were to respond and submit, he was to teach them the Book of Allah, the Sunnah of His Prophet, and the requirements of Islam. If they should decline, then he was to fight them


Sahih Muslim: Book 019, Number 4294:
It has been reported from Sulaiman b. Buraid through his father that when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him to fear Allah and to be good to the Muslims who were with him. He would say:Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war, do not embezzle the spoils; do not break your pledge; and do not mutilate (the dead) bodies; do not kill the children. When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. Then invite them to migrate from their lands to the land of Muhairs and inform them that, if they do so, they shall have all the privileges and obligations of the Muhajirs. If they refuse to migrate, tell them that they will have the status of Bedouin Muilims and will be subjected to the Commands of Allah like other Muslims, but they will not get any share from the spoils of war or Fai' except when they actually fight with the Muslims (against the disbelievers). [/b]If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands.[b] If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them.

Re: Islam is not the religion of peace it claims to be

PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 3:38 pm
by SAM
Ariel wrote:
SAM wrote:
2:191 And kill them wherever you find them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, [b]and fitnah [Persecution] is worse than killing.[/b] And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.


Oh, dear... :shock: How sad...Poor SAM. SAM has got the ISLAM_rules virus. That is bad. It can kill you SAM. :ermm:
Poor Ariel...2:19 didn't say kill the infidels, disbelief or unbeliever etc. :D

Re: Islam is not the religion of peace it claims to be

PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:48 pm
by frankie
SAM:

...2:19 didn't say kill the infidels, disbelief or unbeliever etc.


So,was Mohammed disobeying Allah when he fought and killed disbelievers in Islam?


Sahih al Muslim Book 19, Hadith 4292

Ibn 'Aun reported:
I wrote to Nafi' inquiring from him whether it was necessary to extend (to the disbelievers) an invitation to accept (Islam) before meeting them in fight. He wrote (in reply) to me that it was necessary in the early days of Islam. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) made a raid upon Banu Mustaliq while they were unaware and their cattle were having a drink at the water. He killed those who fought and imprisoned others. On that very day, he captured Juwairiya bint al-Harith. Nafi' said that this tradition was related to him by Abdullah b. Umar who (himself) was among the raiding troops.

Re: Islam is not the religion of peace it claims to be

PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:30 pm
by Hombre
Ariel wrote:
SAM wrote:
2:191 And kill them wherever you find them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah [Persecution] is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.


Oh, dear... :shock: How sad...Poor SAM. SAM has got the ISLAM_rules virus. That is bad. It can kill you SAM. :ermm:
ariel,
SAM's real name is Shmuel, nickname Smulik. He is a self hating Jew.

Re: Islam is not the religion of peace it claims to be

PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:32 pm
by Hombre
ISLAM_rules wrote:no picture mean you are soooo ugly that you could be free gift on Daesh slave market.
Explain. Why do you think Islam is superior to Judea & Christianity.?

Re: Islam is not the religion of peace it claims to be

PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:50 am
by SAM
Hombre wrote:
ISLAM_rules wrote:no picture mean you are soooo ugly that you could be free gift on Daesh slave market.
Explain. Why do you think Islam is superior to Judea & Christianity.?
Judea and Christians under the feet of Islam.
Don't forget the Christians persecute Jews, the Jews living in the ghetto. And also Pope Francis kneels before the Muslims and washed the feet of Muslims... :roll: