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Problem of muslim kids like monotheism living in West

Postby iffo » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:19 am

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I have seen many kids like monotheism living in west. I noticed these young kids living in west either raised there or migrated to west been becoming more and more Islamic. The reason for their this behavior is that they need to have something that gives them self-esteem so that they can feel good about themselves and be proud of who they are. But when they look around they see nothing. They see how miserable their ancestors muslim countries are. They see how little their muslim ancestors have achieved in last 1000 years. When they compare themselves to west they get nothing but inferiority complex. They see west right on their face with its wealth, military power, technology, education, systems, high living standard, innovations, international influence, their civilized ways and list goes on. The country they call great satan(USA) is shooting for the stars, they look at these huge buildings in Chicago and NY, they go Woww, impressed and astonished beyond imagine.

When kids find nothing these guys turn to islam, saying ok at least our religion is better than yours. So islam becomes their only tool to feel good about themselves. Islam becomes their only identity. I honestly feel sorry for these kids because I was also one of them. Little they know that Islam being a bogus religion has also let them down. With Islam gone what can they be proud of? nothing, so these guys desperately try to hold on to Islam. I have seen this mentality not only among young people but also among adults.

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Re: Problem of muslim kids like monotheism living in West

Postby kaimana1 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:16 pm

Great analysis- I couldn't agree more.
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Re: Problem of muslim kids like monotheism living in West

Postby Ariel » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:44 am

What can be done about it Iffo?
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Re: Problem of muslim kids like monotheism living in West

Postby pr126 » Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:16 pm

I am not sure if anything can be done.


This trend of praying in the streets all over the infidel lands has nothing to do with piety.
It a show of force, an in your face demonstration 'we are here to stay, and there is nothing you can do about it'.
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Re: Problem of muslim kids like monotheism living in West

Postby manfred » Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:17 pm

You may have noticed that mono displays a great deal of bravado and a sense of superiority to others. This is I think part of the same thing, a sort of compensation mechanism.

It helps him to hold on to the one thing he believes that defines him and makes him special. It allows him to dismiss arguments without really addressing them.

In fact, this mindset limits his chances to reach his real potential. He is young, has a lot of energy, and seems intelligent to study for university entrance exams, so there are a lot of opportunities for him, if he is determined enough to follow them up.

Perhaps he has not really understood that most people in Western countries don't purely respect someone because of their background or birth, but because of what they managed to do with the opportunities their had.

What worries me that his youthful obsession with attacking Christianity will get in the way of making him a success. He is falling into the "Palestinian trap". Palestinians cannot see Israel as an opportunity, only as a threat to themselves.

Spain has a lot of offer to him. It won't always be easy, but he can make it a lot easier by trying to think of himself as being part of it, rather than Spain having to become a part of him.
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Re: Problem of muslim kids like monotheism living in West

Postby iffo » Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:48 pm

Ariel wrote:What can be done about it Iffo?


Only thing one can do is keep exposing the dark side of Islam to these guys no matter how much they dislike it. Eventually they will have to admit that yes this religion can not be from any god.
More and more anti Islam and Muhammad movies should come out educating these guys about the stories and events they do not know. They will twist and turn and cry but gradually will calm down and start to have doubts about Islam.

Most of these people have heard all their lives only positive things about islam and Muhammad.
These guys need to know they can only be proud of themselves by making progress and achieving something in their personal lives, that's their only choice. They need to be proud of going against the norm and have the courage to come out from the shackles of islam. They need to feel proud to be part of the group that is taking the human race to higher level and responsible for its progress not by joining the group which is dragging it to the middle ages. They plus all of us need to think all people as just one race, which is the human race with out any boundaries and divisions, based on color , race and language and stop being jealous of each other and be a good sport and say yes they deserves it because they played it better than us .

Nature been very unfair to us. We are all here alone left in darkness/mysteries and confusion at the mercy of different religions and their gods , together we need to find out where we came from and where we are heading.
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Re: Problem of muslim kids like monotheism living in West

Postby Auzer » Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:14 pm

lmao! :lol:

OK...so why don't kids from "indian" background feel the same way? What about kids born and raised in the West? to WESTERN PARENTS! They can also be really practicing Muslims......how do you explain this?
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Postby kaimana1 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:40 pm

Auzer wrote:lmao! :lol:

OK...so why don't kids from "indian" background feel the same way? What about kids born and raised in the West? to WESTERN PARENTS! They can also be really practicing Muslims......how do you explain this?



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Re: Problem of muslim kids like monotheism living in West

Postby iffo » Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:44 am

Auzer wrote:lmao! :lol:

OK...so why don't kids from "indian" background feel the same way? What about kids born and raised in the West? to WESTERN PARENTS! They can also be really practicing Muslims......how do you explain this?


If the Western parents have roots from some muslim country, then their kids also feel and know what their roots are. Many feel no reason to be proud of their root and turn to Islam to feel good about themselves.


Kids living in west from India don't become practicing hindus is true. its perhaps because of different mentality. Hinduism is an isolated stupid religion which mind its own business. . Hindus are far less jealous of western success than muslims are and accept western success and their backwardness. On the other hand Muslims think they should dominate and be more important. Islam is always in competition with other religions. After all they were the big conquers at one time, but that power is long gone. They think and teach their kids their religion is best , they are the followers of great guy Muhammad, than how come they have not achieved anything and fall so behind. That's when many in west turn to islam for personal satisfaction and become more and more Islamic.
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Postby Auzer » Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:59 am

kaimana1 wrote:
Auzer wrote:lmao! :lol:

OK...so why don't kids from "indian" background feel the same way? What about kids born and raised in the West? to WESTERN PARENTS! They can also be really practicing Muslims......how do you explain this?



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What do you mean by like me? Am I an Indian? My parents are Western convert to Islam? I'm a "practicing" Muslim? or what ? :lol:

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Postby Auzer » Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:02 am

iffo wrote:
Auzer wrote:lmao! :lol:

OK...so why don't kids from "indian" background feel the same way? What about kids born and raised in the West? to WESTERN PARENTS! They can also be really practicing Muslims......how do you explain this?


If the Western parents have roots from some muslim country, then their kids also feel and know what their roots are. Many feel no reason to be proud of their root and turn to Islam to feel good about themselves.


Kids living in west from India don't become practicing hindus is true. its perhaps because of different mentality. Hinduism is an isolated stupid religion which mind its own business. . Hindus are far less jealous of western success than muslims are and accept western success and their backwardness. On the other hand Muslims think they should dominate and be more important. Islam is always in competition with other religions. After all they were the big conquers at one time, but that power is long gone. They think and teach their kids their religion is best , they are the followers of great guy Muhammad, than how come they have not achieved anything and fall so behind. That's when many in west turn to islam for personal satisfaction and become more and more Islamic.


Um , interesting. But there is no evidence to support your claims though.

Also , I thought Hinduism was cool..lol...Atleast it is not shitty as christianity or its retarded bible.

Anyways, I disagree though. In many cases, pure WESTERN Muslims become very practicing..or Muslim converts. How do you explain that?
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Re: Problem of muslim kids like monotheism living in West

Postby iffo » Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:37 am

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iffo wrote:
Auzer wrote:lmao! :lol:

OK...so why don't kids from "indian" background feel the same way? What about kids born and raised in the West? to WESTERN PARENTS! They can also be really practicing Muslims......how do you explain this?


If the Western parents have roots from some muslim country, then their kids also feel and know what their roots are. Many feel no reason to be proud of their root and turn to Islam to feel good about themselves.


Kids living in west from India don't become practicing hindus is true. its perhaps because of different mentality. Hinduism is an isolated stupid religion which mind its own business. . Hindus are far less jealous of western success than muslims are and accept western success and their backwardness. On the other hand Muslims think they should dominate and be more important. Islam is always in competition with other religions. After all they were the big conquers at one time, but that power is long gone. They think and teach their kids their religion is best , they are the followers of great guy Muhammad, than how come they have not achieved anything and fall so behind. That's when many in west turn to islam for personal satisfaction and become more and more Islamic.


Um , interesting. But there is no evidence to support your claims though.

Also , I thought Hinduism was cool..lol...Atleast it is not shitty as christianity or its retarded bible.

Anyways, I disagree though. In many cases, pure WESTERN Muslims become very practicing..or Muslim converts. How do you explain that?


I am an evidence myself. I live among muslims 24/7. I know how muslims think, their mindset, their superiority complexes or inferiority complexes , I know it all, nothing is hidden from me. And I say things as truthfully as possible.

I am talking only about muslims of west who are basically have roots from some muslim country.
You are right about pure WESTERN Muslims. Converts are normally very passionate about the religion. Other pure Western muslims, those 0.00001% I am not talking about them, their reason for being a practicing muslim is same as reason of practicing muslim living in Egypt or Pakistan etc.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6yqSv-t170


These poor kids are proud to be musim, because they have no other choice to be proud of.
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Postby kaimana1 » Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:55 am

What do you mean by like me? Am I an Indian? My parents are Western convert to Islam? I'm a "practicing" Muslim? or what ?

You're funny


LMAO stop the bullsh!t auzer .... no, you are not indian -you are a Pakistani American- unless you lied on sunniforums about that too :lotpot:


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Anyone else noticed that 'Pakistan' is italicized in the poll choices while the rest of the countries aren't? hmmm......
I think , this is because the OP (me) chose 'Pakistan' as my choice...

The choice of poll poster become 'italicized' ...

Or probably majority post become italicized? Don't know



and no you are not born to western converts after all on this thread you said this:

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?88400-Iran-has-gained-the-world-s-fastest-growth-rate-in-science-and-engineering&highlight=auzer

Well , Islamic extremism DOES exist in our societies. Thanks to ignorance and backwardness. I know that West abuse this word but you do realize that I am NOT a "Westerner" ,right?

Islam should be like we have in Turkey ...Malaysia ...Indonesia etc (No one is perfect , I know) ...But Islam of Saudi Arabia is NOT what one must follow. Its a mixture of Saudi interpretation of Islam + their tribal Arab traditions....


So there you have it on this forum you tell us you are agnostic and say things like Muhammad wrote the quran ...jesus sucks etc.. perhaps you don't want the ffi community to see you as a murtadd because that would defeat your purpose of how islam is so strong and show you as a hypocrite. but then again you become a muslim when you log in to sunni forums. :lotpot:
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Re: Problem of muslim kids like monotheism living in West

Postby Auzer » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:37 pm

kaimana1 wrote:
What do you mean by like me? Am I an Indian? My parents are Western convert to Islam? I'm a "practicing" Muslim? or what ?

You're funny


LMAO stop the bullsh!t auzer .... no, you are not indian -you are a Pakistani American- unless you lied on sunniforums about that too


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Quote Originally Posted by a.s. View Post

Anyone else noticed that 'Pakistan' is italicized in the poll choices while the rest of the countries aren't? hmmm......
I think , this is because the OP (me) chose 'Pakistan' as my choice...

The choice of poll poster become 'italicized' ...

Or probably majority post become italicized? Don't know



and no you are not born to western converts after all on this thread you said this:

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?88400-Iran-has-gained-the-world-s-fastest-growth-rate-in-science-and-engineering&highlight=auzer

Well , Islamic extremism DOES exist in our societies. Thanks to ignorance and backwardness. I know that West abuse this word but you do realize that I am NOT a "Westerner" ,right?

Islam should be like we have in Turkey ...Malaysia ...Indonesia etc (No one is perfect , I know) ...But Islam of Saudi Arabia is NOT what one must follow. Its a mixture of Saudi interpretation of Islam + their tribal Arab traditions....


So there you have it on this forum you tell us you are agnostic and say things like Muhammad wrote the quran ...jesus sucks etc.. perhaps you don't want the ffi community to see you as a murtadd because that would defeat your purpose of how islam is so strong and show you as a hypocrite. but then again you become a muslim when you log in to sunni forums.



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Postby sum » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:56 pm

Hello Auzer

Islam is only strong because of serious indoctrination and mind programming which includes fear. It has nothing to do with critical thinking to evaluate what Islam teaches. If you can honestly disassociate yourself from the Golden Rule towards those outside Islam it simply demonstrates that you have lost your humanity and become a mindless zombie.

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Postby Auzer » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:53 pm

sum wrote:Hello Auzer

Islam is only strong because of serious indoctrination and mind programming which includes fear. It has nothing to do with critical thinking to evaluate what Islam teaches. If you can honestly disassociate yourself from the Golden Rule towards those outside Islam it simply demonstrates that you have lost your humanity and become a mindless zombie.

sum


Again, that is not the topic.

One poster is pulling some bs from another forum as if I care at all about it. "Auzer" is not even a name. It is a generic title that many gamers have (Yes, I used to play games. Not now though..) You will find MILLIONS of "Auzers" all over the internet..

I just reply on topic..thats it.
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Postby manfred » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:54 pm

It is exactly to do with the topic and it addresses the questions you raised why difficulties of integration are not experienced as severely by some "Indian" people you mention. Sum suggests that one answer may be found in the concept of indoctrination. In particular, a Muslim has an expectation that his religion is awarded a special place above all other belief sets, and a great many will view a society that refuses to do so as hostile.

Mono lives under the impression that his new country is inferior, hostile and corrupt. This view is confirmed daily by Islamic teaching.

But it seems for you there is only one topic: "auzer".

Well, I am getting bored with that.
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Postby sum » Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:29 pm

Hello Auzer

Islam being so strong was mentioned in another post above.

If you had a good reply to my post you would have given it. As you do not have a good reply, you run away.

Do you consider that indoctrination might have influenced your thought processes?

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Postby Auzer » Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:10 am

sum wrote:Hello Auzer

Islam being so strong was mentioned in another post above.

If you had a good reply to my post you would have given it. As you do not have a good reply, you run away.

Do you consider that indoctrination might have influenced your thought processes?

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I have started enough such threads where you could give your that point of view...and I don't run away and you know it. I just don't want to take this thread away from its main topic.

About the last line : I don't think so ... I'm an educated, rational person. But again, some people believe that top universities of this country are places of "liberal indoctrination"...so be it.
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Postby kaimana1 » Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:01 am

I have started enough such threads where you could give your that point of view...and I don't run away and you know it. I just don't want to take this thread away from its main topic.

About the last line : I don't think so ... I'm an educated, rational person. But again, some people believe that top universities of this country are places of "liberal indoctrination"...so be it



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