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by Equestrian
Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:09 pm
Forum: God & Religion
Topic: What is god?
Replies: 151
Views: 55105

Re: What is god?

People are actually engaging in this thread without launching insults and bawdy remarks? given the subject of this thread, I'm thoroughly impressed. Maybe my mere participation simply triggers the obscenities, in which case I should just change my user name to 'Trigger Warning'. Or maybe, manfred co...
by Equestrian
Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:44 pm
Forum: God & Religion
Topic: What is god?
Replies: 151
Views: 55105

Re: What is god?

Are you suggesting that existence of God has a probability of 1? If yes then I would like to see how. I'm suggesting that there is evidence for the existence of God. Manfred provided the Ontological Argument and I've listed five more. In my previous posts, I had shown that IF there is no evidence f...
by Equestrian
Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:38 pm
Forum: God & Religion
Topic: What is god?
Replies: 151
Views: 55105

Re: What is god?

sum wrote:Hello Equestrian

If one can logically argue for the non-existence of a god despite the "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence", please explain how.

sum
If one can provide a sufficient argument for the non-existence of God, then obviously the evidence is not absent.
by Equestrian
Sun Aug 16, 2015 1:46 pm
Forum: God & Religion
Topic: What is god?
Replies: 151
Views: 55105

Re: What is god?

sum wrote:Hello Equestrian

As long as "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" is accepted, is it possible ever to argue logically that god does not exist?

sum
Of course.
by Equestrian
Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:59 am
Forum: God & Religion
Topic: What is god?
Replies: 151
Views: 55105

Re: What is god?

skynightblaze wrote:Equestrian argues that there is equal probability of existence of supernatural world just as there is an equal possibility of it not existing.
I said no such thing.
by Equestrian
Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:54 am
Forum: God & Religion
Topic: What is god?
Replies: 151
Views: 55105

Re: What is god?

But it is also not altogether without merit, and there is a very good response to Kant's point, which I will save incase someone finds this interesting.... I find it interesting. The Ontological Argument has been refined, since Anselm, by contemporary philosophers such as Hartshorne, Malcom and Pla...
by Equestrian
Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:47 am
Forum: God & Religion
Topic: What is god?
Replies: 151
Views: 55105

Re: What is god?

I too would love to see the logical arguments behind existence of so called God. Take out your shopping list. 1. The Argument from Contingency 2. The Kalam Cosmological Argument 3. The Moral Argument 4. The Teleological Argument 5. The Argument from Consciousness There are many more, however the ab...
by Equestrian
Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:44 am
Forum: God & Religion
Topic: What is god?
Replies: 151
Views: 55105

Re: What is god?

manfred wrote:Image

equestrian, you have a customer!!!
You actually do have a sense of humor, Manfred! All this time I thought you a stolid ironclad.
by Equestrian
Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:17 am
Forum: God & Religion
Topic: What is god?
Replies: 151
Views: 55105

Re: What is god?

OK Equestian, you've probably outgunned me on logic and philosophy - although I can't be sure because I had a benighted education. I had to do RE rather than those valuable subjects. I'm no stranger to sarcasm Fernando, so right back at ya. Just for the record, I wasn't being sarcastic. Me educatio...
by Equestrian
Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:46 am
Forum: God & Religion
Topic: What is god?
Replies: 151
Views: 55105

Re: What is god?

OK Equestian, you've probably outgunned me on logic and philosophy - although I can't be sure because I had a benighted education. I had to do RE rather than those valuable subjects. However, I will refer you to Russell's teapot. There may be no evidence that it doesn't exist. So what? I'm no stran...
by Equestrian
Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:42 am
Forum: God & Religion
Topic: What is god?
Replies: 151
Views: 55105

Re: What is god?

@Equestrian You are quoting Carl Sagan in your sig. Did you know that he was an atheist? I certainly do. However, some of your atheist cohorts on this forum would disagree with you, specifically because Sagan argued that the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Now ain't that somethin'? ...
by Equestrian
Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:36 am
Forum: God & Religion
Topic: What is god?
Replies: 151
Views: 55105

Re: What is god?

Hello Equestrian As this post is about "god", how do you relate your logic to the subject of "god"? It would appear to me that your logic would allow for the existence of a "god". Is this so? sum Hello sum To answer your first question, I don't own logic so it's not &q...
by Equestrian
Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:06 pm
Forum: God & Religion
Topic: What is god?
Replies: 151
Views: 55105

Re: What is god?

Hello Equestrian I am not sure whether your arguments stop at the point where it is reasonable to believe in the supranatural, ie god, or whether your arguments take it one step further and direct you to one particular god. Will you please advise me? sum I did not provide an argument for the supran...
by Equestrian
Sun Aug 09, 2015 5:52 pm
Forum: God & Religion
Topic: What is god?
Replies: 151
Views: 55105

Re: What is god?

The way I understood this topic, btw, was: what is God to you? and not really so much about who is right or wrong in their views. But maybe I got that wrong... What is the point of the thread topic if not to debate which view corresponds with reality? the subject I'm debating is entirely relevant t...
by Equestrian
Sun Aug 09, 2015 4:26 pm
Forum: God & Religion
Topic: What is god?
Replies: 151
Views: 55105

Re: What is god?

Where to begin? I haven't a lot of time to digest your post but let's start here The problem is that the proposition the natural world is all that exists is not inviolable. It is not self-evident, in fact there is no evidence. You and pr126 subscribe to the belief without any evidence, yet you dema...
by Equestrian
Sat Aug 08, 2015 2:37 pm
Forum: God & Religion
Topic: What is god?
Replies: 151
Views: 55105

Re: What is god?

Equestrian, you are asking pr to prove a negative. I'm asking pr126 to prove no such thing. (BTW the claim "you can't prove a negative" is a ridiculous slogan) In my previous post, I had incontrovertibly demonstrated that pr's reasoning is defective. Pr126 argues: There is no evidence for...
by Equestrian
Sat Aug 08, 2015 1:46 am
Forum: God & Religion
Topic: What is god?
Replies: 151
Views: 55105

Re: What is god?

iffo wrote: Your belief that "game is over", has to have some bases and evidence. Of course. As soon as you present your evidence for the afterlife. :cool: Therefore, what? the natural world is all that exists? It amazes me that after all the discussions you and I have had, you still purs...
by Equestrian
Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:06 am
Forum: World Politics
Topic: Bat Ye'or: constructive criticism
Replies: 33
Views: 15462

Re: Bat Ye'or: constructive criticism

There's also the "Yes Minister" effect: ministers are usually there for less than five years while civil servants, if they play their cards right, are there for their entire career. Thus, IIRC, the Foreign Office was stuffed, years ago. with what were termed "Arabists" in those ...
by Equestrian
Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:49 pm
Forum: World Politics
Topic: Bat Ye'or: constructive criticism
Replies: 33
Views: 15462

Re: Bat Ye'or: constructive criticism

That is quite simple to explain... people vote for one party or another not on one issue only but on a range of considerations. Islam is not, at the present time, at least, something at the top of the list for most people. They think about economic recovery, education, health care and lots of thing...
by Equestrian
Sat Jul 04, 2015 2:22 am
Forum: World Politics
Topic: Bat Ye'or: constructive criticism
Replies: 33
Views: 15462

Re: Bat Ye'or: constructive criticism

I do not believe that politicians in much of Europe (certainly not in the UK) represent the views of the majority of people, simply because the choice is only between essentially very similar parties. If, as you assert, the majority view does not reflect that of the politicians, then you must expla...