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by debunker
Sun May 23, 2010 8:17 am
Forum: New Members Welcome
Topic: New member to the forum, some thoughts
Replies: 70
Views: 26338

Re: New member to the forum, some thoughts

To be fair in your false misinformation advertisements removed by M that place isn't anti-islam at all. Rather, it's a support group for all sorts of misfits who need some sort of social comforting, any discussion on Islam is incidental and usually ends up with the blame being placed on extremist M...
by debunker
Sun May 23, 2010 7:54 am
Forum: New Members Welcome
Topic: New member to the forum, some thoughts
Replies: 70
Views: 26338

Re: New member to the forum, some thoughts

First of all I apologize to you sky for the way I reacted the other day... you're obviously too young and have this stuborness of the youth, which is natural and expected... Please accept my apology. So you are advertising those thugs ! I think you should stay at that place rather than here.Ofcourse...
by debunker
Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:04 am
Forum: Muhammad
Topic: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article
Replies: 169
Views: 46213

Re: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article

I say mothers because your Yusuf Ali translation says, "orphans of women". Now, who are these women except the mothers of those orphans. . That's the literal translation... and it means orphans from among women... that's what it means in Arabic and that's why other translators translated ...
by debunker
Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:26 am
Forum: Muhammad
Topic: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article
Replies: 169
Views: 46213

Re: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article

Why do you keep assuming there are any "mothers" involved? Suppose there's a man who was entrusted the inheritance of an orphan girl along with taking care of her (no one said anything about her mother... probably dead or whatever, who cares)... now this girl reaches a marrigeable age so h...
by debunker
Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:11 am
Forum: Muhammad
Topic: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article
Replies: 169
Views: 46213

Re: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article

You are using Yusuf Ali? There are lots of different translations / apologetics and you just pick and choose which ones that suit your needs and think we will be fooled? So now it's not the Adult women orphan - but the mothers of the orphans??? Hardly credible, debunker. You twist and turn like a w...
by debunker
Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:54 pm
Forum: Muhammad
Topic: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article
Replies: 169
Views: 46213

Re: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article

brilliant analysis! let's see what 4:127 actually says: 004.127 YUSUFALI: They ask thy instruction concerning the women say: Allah doth instruct you about them: And (remember) what hath been rehearsed unto you in the Book , concerning the orphans of women to whom ye give not the portions prescribed,...
by debunker
Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:18 pm
Forum: Muhammad
Topic: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article
Replies: 169
Views: 46213

Re: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article

@ KaFiR for ReaL (KFR4RL) regarding "Orphan Women", I have discussed this with Aksel before here: http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=3011&start=40#p50911" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; In Arabic, an orphan *girl* keeps the title of orphan...
by debunker
Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:00 am
Forum: Muhammad
Topic: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article
Replies: 169
Views: 46213

Re: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article

hey scum, you can bark all night if you want, unless you get something new and worthwhile to say, don't bother barking at me... I have nothing to feed you but your own vomit... I have already exposed your hypocrasy... quoting Tafsir when it suits you (65:4) and dismissing it when it doesn't (4:6)...
by debunker
Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:32 am
Forum: Muhammad
Topic: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article
Replies: 169
Views: 46213

Re: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article

@ cassie Listen you disgusting piece of trash! Repeating your lies doesn't change anything... I am not writing any of this because I think I might convince you of anything, you filth... I'm writing this so as to expose you to any neutral reader of my posts... now, buzz off, and stop eating your own ...
by debunker
Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:43 pm
Forum: Muhammad
Topic: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article
Replies: 169
Views: 46213

Re: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article

You are a liar, debunker. 4:6 is only about ORPHANS. And you know it. Aisha was NOT an orphan. 4:6 talks about giving ORPHANS their property when they have reached puberty. You lied that it means that Muslims cannot marry girls before puberty. 4:6 has nothing to do with marriage of girls and their ...
by debunker
Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:27 pm
Forum: Muhammad
Topic: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article
Replies: 169
Views: 46213

Re: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article

So you have proof of this or just your word? How about you provide some evidence that Muslim women KNEW that 65:4 applied to amenorrhea? You are just making things up, aren't you? That's your invention... you're implying that women of the ancient time did not miss their periods except when they wer...
by debunker
Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:16 pm
Forum: Muhammad
Topic: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article
Replies: 169
Views: 46213

Re: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article

For your info, debunker: http://hadith.al-islam.com/display/Display.asp?Doc=0&Rec=7644" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Great! So it seems you speak some Arabic! Now, what's the number of this "Hadith"?! It is NOT a Hadith... that Bukhari's opinion of a verse t...
by debunker
Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:13 pm
Forum: Muhammad
Topic: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article
Replies: 169
Views: 46213

Re: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article

Be that as it may - your god FECKED UP and allowed Muslims to feck pre-pubertal girls. It lacks credibility that Muslims have to wait 14 centuries for kafirs to come along and then you can "interpret" 65:4 correctly. Kafirs interpreted it correctly? are you saying that women of *ANY* era ...
by debunker
Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:59 pm
Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
Topic: The Ka'aba
Replies: 106
Views: 19471

Re: The Ka'aba

@ Eagle it only makes sense he was a pagan... besides, this is not the first time Bukhari gives glaringly contradicting Hadiths to the Quran... The Quran says Muhammed did NOT even know what faith was! He was clueless. Besides, why do you care if he was a pagan or not.... Abraham was a pagan too. re...
by debunker
Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:20 pm
Forum: Muhammad
Topic: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article
Replies: 169
Views: 46213

Re: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article

@ KFR4RL your interpretation of 65:4 is a theoretical interpretation if one takes it in isolation, That's not her interpretation... that's the interpretation of "prophet" Bukhari and ALL the exegists follow their prophet Bukhari's opinion of 65:4 (never mind that ALL of them, so stupidly c...
by debunker
Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:18 pm
Forum: Muhammad
Topic: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article
Replies: 169
Views: 46213

Re: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article

@ Cassie Hmmm. What has 4:6 to do with Aisha? It merely tells Muslims to give ORPHANS their property upon marriage. You're committing a HUGE red herring. What the hell are you talking about? You brought Tafsir to support that prebuscent girls can get married and I responded with Tafsir of another ve...
by debunker
Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:33 pm
Forum: Muhammad
Topic: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article
Replies: 169
Views: 46213

Re: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article

@ charles

I believe you know what I mean... and I also believe that what I'm saying has nothing to do with ad populum... you're playing dumb or at least explain how this is ad populum...
by debunker
Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:07 pm
Forum: Muhammad
Topic: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article
Replies: 169
Views: 46213

Re: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article

Take it from me KFR4RL... check out all Sunni Hadith books: Bukhari/Muslim et al.., ALL hadiths reporting Aicha's age at marriage were reported by Aicha. PLUS not a single Hadith implies that prepuscent girls can be married off... otherwise, Bukhari would have proudly fattened his tiny chapter on m...
by debunker
Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:46 pm
Forum: Muhammad
Topic: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article
Replies: 169
Views: 46213

Re: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article

@ sky I already told you I'm not going to complete this child play... and you're insulting me by insisting that I keep playing... The name of the chapter is FRIGGING DIVORCE! + THERE'S ANOTHER HADITH ABOUT THE SAME STORY IN THE SAME CHAPTER RIGHT ABOVE YOUR HADITH SAYING THIS WAS DIVORCE + SHE COUL...
by debunker
Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:32 pm
Forum: Muhammad
Topic: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article
Replies: 169
Views: 46213

Re: Muhammad's marriage to Ayesha - new article

nisa does not mean female of any age. In Koran this can obviously be seen from 24:31, and debunker is right, the tafsir commentators do contradict themselves with 65:4 and 4:6, that is interesting. That video posted by iffo explains it well. Also, I never knew that the only marrying young children ...