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by Sanitarium
Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:53 pm
Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
Topic: There is no God but "God" and Muhammad is not His messenger.
Replies: 41
Views: 3302

Re: There is no God but "God" and Muhammad is not His messenger.

It's a dumb phrase. Think about it, "there is no god but god". yes it is a dumb phrase. Actually I love it when I hear a Muslim say it means "there is no god but God" because it only belies their ignorance of their own religion. Actually Allah is the NAME of Islam's deity, so if they actually know ...
by Sanitarium
Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:47 pm
Forum: The Quran and Hadith
Topic: Hadith Timelines
Replies: 362
Views: 104697

Re: Hadith Timelines

To those Muslim's who say they don't accept the ahadith, is that your same opinion regarding the ahadith Qudsi? Also, if possible, I would love a Muslim to clarify to me (without quoting from the Quran to support your argument) why you can accept Quran even though it was passed from person to person...
by Sanitarium
Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:23 pm
Forum: Muhammad
Topic: Is this guy a liar?
Replies: 1
Views: 1181

Re: Is this guy a liar?

At about 1:30 into the video he says that it's not acceptable to take advantage of another in Islam. Regarding marriage though, this is not actually true. Did you know that a father can marry off his pre-pubescent daughter to any man he wishes? Of course she MUST go along with it, and she can only a...
by Sanitarium
Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:37 pm
Forum: Comments on the Main Site and Forum
Topic: Help from Ali Sina regarding authenticity of Ishaq
Replies: 7
Views: 5740

Re: Help from Ali Sina regarding authenticity of Ishaq

Why the most antique work of Ishaq were censored ? I reckon this is intellectual dishonesty of Hisham I apologize for my very slow reply, I do hope you are still interested! Yes I agree it is dishonesty at play here, but not done in such a deliberate way. By that I mean Hisham was so wanting to pro...
by Sanitarium
Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:56 pm
Forum: Women in Islam
Topic: Are non-muslim men slaves of whores?
Replies: 30
Views: 15364

Re: Are non-muslim men slaves of whores?

It is always known that non-Muslim men cannot control their women, daughters, etc. Women are not chattel to be "controlled" we are not mere "things" for you to possess. Once you realize this, you will realize that women do in fact have minds of their own and we are free to act in any way we wish th...
by Sanitarium
Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:14 am
Forum: The Quran and Hadith
Topic: Non Muslim can go to heaven along with the muslims :-)
Replies: 19
Views: 5139

Re: Non Muslim can go to heaven along with the muslims :-)

PS, I am in the habit of looking at these matters from a Koran-only perspective due to the tendency of Muslims to go into hadith denial mode when presented with unedifying quotes from those sources. But to do this, you may be ignoring the revelational sequence of surahs/ayahs and are missing the re...
by Sanitarium
Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:55 pm
Forum: The Quran and Hadith
Topic: Non Muslim can go to heaven along with the muslims :-)
Replies: 19
Views: 5139

Re: Non Muslim can go to heaven along with the muslims :-)

abrogated by 3:85. ahh abrogation of course! Sanitarium, the passage in question was never "abrogated" since it never applied to ALL Jews and Christians etc -only the "good" ones who recognized the "truth" of Islam ie became Muslims. That's not what the verse says. Your answer here belies a strange...
by Sanitarium
Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:47 pm
Forum: The Quran and Hadith
Topic: Quran mistranslated by Arabs
Replies: 18
Views: 4246

Re: Quran mistranslated by Arabs

It's disgusting isn't it? They can't even lie properly let alone do anything else properly. OH my mistake! they will be zawaj to white raisins with big eyes!! Muttaki-eena AAala sururin masfoofatin wa zawwaj nahum bi hoor in AAeenin They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ...
by Sanitarium
Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:31 pm
Forum: The Quran and Hadith
Topic: Non Muslim can go to heaven along with the muslims :-)
Replies: 19
Views: 5139

Re: Non Muslim can go to heaven along with the muslims :-)

abrogated by 3:85. ahh abrogation of course!
by Sanitarium
Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:20 pm
Forum: The Quran and Hadith
Topic: Quran mistranslated by Arabs
Replies: 18
Views: 4246

Re: Quran mistranslated by Arabs

Muhammad bin Lyin wrote:I don't think it would say white raisins never touched by man or jinn.
How do you zawaj white raisins? LOL
by Sanitarium
Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:07 pm
Forum: Comments on the Main Site and Forum
Topic: Help from Ali Sina regarding authenticity of Ishaq
Replies: 7
Views: 5740

Re: Help from Ali Sina regarding authenticity of Ishaq

Muslim apologist replied 1Ibn ishaq is not hadith .Its actually a historical record believed by academics that its plagued by lot of jewish reports. completely false. the ishaq's sira is a collection of ahadith arranged in chronological order to give a narrative of Muhamad's life. I would ask where...
by Sanitarium
Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:51 am
Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
Topic: Islam promotes Pedophlia.
Replies: 50
Views: 6105

Re: Islam promotes Pedophlia.

But orphans are orphans. If one cannot do justice between them (e.g. one cannot look after them for long) then marriage is an option. Since you use the Quran only we can't use the ahadith, so I just tell you to read the verse again. It clearly is talking the whole time to the MAN who has charge ove...
by Sanitarium
Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:46 am
Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
Topic: Islam promotes Pedophlia.
Replies: 50
Views: 6105

Re: Islam promotes Pedophlia.

The age of marriage is after puberty ends and when the person is of sound judgement. here is the problem that I, and many other readers here (also those that will come here through search engines) are seeing. You have no reason to say that marriagable age is the "age of puberty". The verse/s that y...
by Sanitarium
Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:40 am
Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
Topic: Islam promotes Pedophlia.
Replies: 50
Views: 6105

Re: Islam promotes Pedophlia.

Of course it is a process. That is why I mentioned irregularity. These are among those who may not have menstruated yet (65:4). wow lol you're jam packing everyone in there except the pre-pubescent hahaha. does the idea make you uncomfortable? I have no idea why. I mean if allah is God, and the Qur...
by Sanitarium
Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:51 am
Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
Topic: Islam promotes Pedophlia.
Replies: 50
Views: 6105

Re: Islam promotes Pedophlia.

The people who have not menstruated yet in 65:4 judge by months, not cycles. Agreed. Those in 2:228 judge by cycles. The difference is quite plain. There is no repetition as they are both in doubt for an apparent reason, and yet one of your points was that there was repetition. There is of course “...
by Sanitarium
Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:20 am
Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
Topic: Islam promotes Pedophlia.
Replies: 50
Views: 6105

Re: Islam promotes Pedophlia.

The divorced women in 2:228 includes those who are older but still have a doubt. That is obvious, since any woman of whom the status is doubtful is obviously to be considered as potentially a menstruating woman. No, the reason why you may have doubts on the 65;4 females is because the "measurement"...
by Sanitarium
Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:47 am
Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
Topic: Islam promotes Pedophlia.
Replies: 50
Views: 6105

Re: Islam promotes Pedophlia.

The verse says "those who have not." Yes.... Those who have not done it must wait 3 months. Yes.... Those who do so during the month cannot possibly be a part of "those who have not". Yes... They are "of those who menstruate". right.. There is no need to say "until they do". here's where you start ...
by Sanitarium
Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:30 pm
Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
Topic: Islam promotes Pedophlia.
Replies: 50
Views: 6105

Re: Islam promotes Pedophlia.

] The categories are menopause, pregnant women and those who have not already menstruated in their monthly cycle (i.e. they wait until they do, and end the waiting period at three months if it takes that long). Can you please point out where the verse says "until they do"? 2:228 clearly says the id...
by Sanitarium
Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:07 pm
Forum: Women in Islam
Topic: AISYAH AGE WHEN MARRY
Replies: 36
Views: 37867

Re: AISYAH AGE WHEN MARRY

PROOF#2 : The purposed of Muhammad to Aisyah According to Tabari (also according to Hisham ibn `Urwah, Ibn Hunbal and Ibn Sad), Aisyah was purposed in her 7 years old and married Muhammad in her 9 years old, No it says 6 & 9 or 7 & 9. It's defnitely 9 though. Perhaps you should try bringing the sou...
by Sanitarium
Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:18 pm
Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
Topic: Myth of Islamic Golden Age without Islam
Replies: 80
Views: 8692

Re: Myth of Islamic Golden Age without Islam

I did not at all mention ANY Historical context, I mentioned only TEXTUAL context, the verses before and after. Your lies had been addressed, You lied, and lost. Please don't act like other people are ignorant here, when you're the one who doesn't know what they're talking about. Let me lay it out ...