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- Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:40 pm
- Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
- Topic: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
- Replies: 124
- Views: 32664
Re: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
Debunker seems to have lost interest, his position (like that of AB, I presume) is that al-laa-ee Lam Yahdina in 65:4 covers cases of secondary amenorrhea. I did not lose interest, I never do with my passionate work I didn't say you lost interest. Did not you notice that from all the refutations po...
- Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:16 am
- Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
- Topic: Alexander the great and Islam
- Replies: 8
- Views: 3307
Re: Alexander the great and Islam
who the heck is Dhul-qur-nain of the Koran then? that term literally refers to the two-horned one. And in many ancient documents Alexander was also refered t as the two-horned one. Moses is refered to as "two-horned" in some traditions, though this was a mistranslation of the Bible. וַיְה...
- Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:07 am
- Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
- Topic: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
- Replies: 124
- Views: 32664
Re: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
Not to forget how Allah describes himself in the Koran:
The use of Lam obviously negates the possibility that Allah conceived a child or was a child at any time in the past.
لَمْ يَلِدْ وَلَمْ يُولَدْ
Lam Yalid Wa Lam Yulad
"Never did He beget. Nor was He begotten."
The use of Lam obviously negates the possibility that Allah conceived a child or was a child at any time in the past.
- Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:02 am
- Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
- Topic: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
- Replies: 124
- Views: 32664
Re: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
Debunker seems to have lost interest, his position (like that of AB, I presume) is that al-laa-ee Lam Yahdina in 65:4 covers cases of secondary amenorrhea. Well, how about this article from Reuter's Health? Compare the English and Arabic versions of it. As one can clearly see, in referring to femal...
- Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:18 am
- Forum: Breaking News On Islam
- Topic: Somali Islamists behead 7 apostates
- Replies: 0
- Views: 486
Somali Islamists behead 7 apostates
NAIROBI, Kenya — Somali Islamist fighters on Friday beheaded seven prisoners accused of abandoning the Muslim faith and spying for the government in the largest mass execution since the Islamists were pushed from power two and a half years ago. The public killings in the southwestern town of Baidoa...
- Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:05 am
- Forum: God & Religion
- Topic: BIRTH CONTROL IS SINFUL IN THE CHRISTIAN MARRIAGES
- Replies: 45
- Views: 10164
Re: BIRTH CONTROL IS SINFUL IN THE CHRISTIAN MARRIAGES
1091. Only 144,000 celibate men will be saved. (Those who were not "defiled with women.") 14:1-4 http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35299&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=150" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; What exactly does the word celib...
- Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:46 am
- Forum: Breaking News On Islam
- Topic: Nano-particles in Camels’ urine may help treat cancer
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1860
Re: Nano-particles in Camels’ urine may help treat cancer
Nano-particles in Camels’ urine may help treat cancer Her work began with experiments involving camel urine, cancer cells found in patients’ lungs and culminated in injecting mice with leukemic cancel cells and camel urine to test the results. “We will provide ointments, capsules, syrup, shampoo, s...
- Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:41 am
- Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
- Topic: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
- Replies: 124
- Views: 32664
Re: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
Hello Aksel Untha means female which is indeed a general term that can be used to refer to any age. And no, the use of Nisa (women) in 4:11 does not mean that Nisa is a general term that can refer to girls as well... However, the verse still applies to girls. Hello debunker. In calculating the divi...
- Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:47 am
- Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
- Topic: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
- Replies: 124
- Views: 32664
Re: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
Now that I've shown you how ridiculous your translations are, could you please stop with your lectures? Anyway, the Arabic word for woman is Emra'a and for women, it's Nisa'. Now, quit it already. Dear Debunker, what do you think of these verses? فلما وضعتها قالت رب اني وضعتها انثى والله اعلم بما و...
- Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:09 pm
- Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
- Topic: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
- Replies: 124
- Views: 32664
Re: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
Anyway, logical problem or not, Nisa can ONLY mean women. Period. If you say so. The book recounts the Pharaoh giving an order to slay and an exception to spare. In the matter of exceptions, it is logical to contrast men with women, or to contrast male children with female children. It's illogical ...
- Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:46 pm
- Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
- Topic: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
- Replies: 124
- Views: 32664
Re: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
Then I will concede Yatama . Kenmirzz's example was better, in truth. Besides, where did you get this goofy translation from? Please look again at al-Baqara 49, some competent translators did understand it as female children rather than women; Rodwell, Dawood, Khalifa, Malik, Sale... JM Rodwell: An...
- Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:16 pm
- Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
- Topic: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
- Replies: 124
- Views: 32664
Re: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
I guess you have a problem with the expression "orphan women". In Arabic, an orphan *girl* keeps the title of orphan even when she reaches womanhood as long as she's not married yet. In fact, this is still the case even today in some Arabic cultures. When my father died, my youngest two s...
- Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:18 am
- Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
- Topic: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
- Replies: 124
- Views: 32664
Re: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
Thanks for that Kenmirzz, I'd forgetten about that example; Ibnaahum is contrasted with Nisaahum, obviously their male vs. their female children.
- Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:10 am
- Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
- Topic: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
- Replies: 124
- Views: 32664
Re: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
If the verse 4:127 is supposed to mean "female children from among the orphans", and orphaned adult women are included as orphans, shouldn't it be something like this?
أطفال من اليتامى
4:6 suggests to me that the Yatama in general are children.
أطفال من اليتامى
4:6 suggests to me that the Yatama in general are children.
- Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:57 am
- Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
- Topic: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
- Replies: 124
- Views: 32664
Re: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
@ Aksel, Actually she did say Nisa can mean "infants" among other things which is quite laughable. And yes when an orphan girl becomes a woman, she becomes an orphan woman... Sorry, I don't get it, why does verse say test the Yatama until they reach marriageable age if some of them are al...
- Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:49 am
- Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
- Topic: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
- Replies: 124
- Views: 32664
Re: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
Also, nisa can mean infants too. See 4-127. ويستفتونك في النساء قل الله يفتيكم فيهن ومايتلى عليكم في الكتاب في يتامى النساء اللاتي لاتؤتونهن ماكتب لهن وترغبون ان تنكحوهن والمستضعفين من الولدان وان تقوموا لليتامى بالقسط وماتفعلوا من خير فان الله كان به عليما So Nisa can mean little BOYS too! Yeah ri...
- Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:15 am
- Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
- Topic: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
- Replies: 124
- Views: 32664
Re: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
Does Lam Yahidna = "did not menstruate (at any time in the past)" as Lam Tamassuhunna = "you did not touch them (at any time in the past)" as per 2:236?debunker wrote:"Lam Yahidna" = did not menstruate.
- Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:49 am
- Forum: Islam: Questioned, Defended, & Explained
- Topic: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
- Replies: 124
- Views: 32664
Re: 65:4, The Quran does not allow sex with immature Girls!
How, in your opinion, would the verse be written to indicate "not yet" in the sense of "never". You mean in Arabic? Here: اللائي لم يحضن بعد بعد means after or yet, so the word for yet (as in never) in Arabic is بعد which is missing in the verse. I hesitate to contradict a nativ...
- Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:22 am
- Forum: Breaking News On Islam
- Topic: Egyptian woman killed in German court - Update: gets life
- Replies: 128
- Views: 11467
Re: Egyptian woman killed in German court drama
Sten, didn't the crazy man call his victim a terrorist?
That's slander, people sue for that.
That's slander, people sue for that.
- Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:21 am
- Forum: Breaking News On Islam
- Topic: Egyptian woman killed in German court - Update: gets life
- Replies: 128
- Views: 11467
Re: A German Nazi Killed An Egyptian Woman Brutally in Court
This brutal attack by a madman is very sad. Whether it was done out of racial or religous hatred. I wish we read a less partisan version, the writer Ismail Imadudeen obviously has an agenda to smear Germans and guilt them with the crimes of WWII. What a hell is that "Islamphobia?" In fact...